Hells_Bells Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 As per usual with your posts in this thread, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.Most of the wii's sales are because the aim of the system. The wii could have just as many owner with a normal controller (like a NES controller for example) a majority of the sales come from the marketing and software the system is owning.Oh, and about the 2 90 minute cut scenes in MGS4. It's really simple, I don't think that no matter what, or no matter who is making a game, there should never be that kind of cut scene. It's a video game, it's meant to be played, and not to be watched.As per usual you're being a condescending dick. The aim of the system is to sell. The wii does this by presenting an alternative control system - motion sensory. Theres no way you can argue that most people buy the wii for anything other than the unique control system. What else do they buy it for? The amazing graphics? It's multimedia capabilities? The superior online system? The wii delivers a brilliant first impression and that's why it sells so well.As for MGS4, its a story driven series so the cut scenes are an integral part of the game. 90 minutes might be pushing it a bit but i'll wait until i've played the game and see how/if it disrupts the gameplay before I pass judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Ninety minutes for a cutscene is ridiculous. I don't care what anyone says. I can hardly stand a five minute scene let alone ninety minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) if you buy a wii it's generally for the "gimick" most of their sales are for the motion sensing control.But why is a major feature such as motion sensing control a "gimmick"? You've got the wrong target.In games where it's intelligently designed and incorporated(Boom Blox being the most recent example) rather than tacked on by lazy 3rd party developers, it's fantastic and a huge competitive differentiator for Nintendo. Reality is more and more people will have both a PS3 or Xbox and Wii... Edited June 1, 2008 by Turn_It_Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnRmaniac Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I'm really looking forword to getting Alone In The Dark for Wii, the graphics look pretty good for this game and it kind of reminds me of a mix of GTA and Resident Evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack_the_ripper Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 As per usual with your posts in this thread, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.Most of the wii's sales are because the aim of the system. The wii could have just as many owner with a normal controller (like a NES controller for example) a majority of the sales come from the marketing and software the system is owning.Oh, and about the 2 90 minute cut scenes in MGS4. It's really simple, I don't think that no matter what, or no matter who is making a game, there should never be that kind of cut scene. It's a video game, it's meant to be played, and not to be watched.As per usual you're being a condescending dick. The aim of the system is to sell. The wii does this by presenting an alternative control system - motion sensory. Theres no way you can argue that most people buy the wii for anything other than the unique control system. What else do they buy it for? The amazing graphics? It's multimedia capabilities? The superior online system? The wii delivers a brilliant first impression and that's why it sells so well.As for MGS4, its a story driven series so the cut scenes are an integral part of the game. 90 minutes might be pushing it a bit but i'll wait until i've played the game and see how/if it disrupts the gameplay before I pass judgement.it's the software library that sells it to be honest. People like mindless casual and party games, and they find a plenty on the wii, it's that simple. It has nothing to do with the controller.I've played many story driven games, and some of them didn't even have cutscenes. As I said, a videogame should be played, not watched. I'd be the first to tear Miyamoto a new 1 if he went in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 i know everything firstly you're deluded it you think the wii would be as popular if it was motion sensing.secondly about MGS4, must have been a week since i posted about that but it's what MGS is about, the storyline is always epic, if people like you don't like it then you shouldn't buy it, fans know what they're getting when they buy it and that's what they do. while i'm having fun playing it i hope you're having fun complaining about it it's nice to play a game that's doesn't throw together some cheesy storylineanyway, to everyone else, i just tried playing gears of war again, i seemed to remember it being alot better than it actually is. i won't be getting the second one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack_the_ripper Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 i know everything firstly you're deluded it you think the wii would be as popular if it was motion sensing.secondly about MGS4, must have been a week since i posted about that but it's what MGS is about, the storyline is always epic, if people like you don't like it then you shouldn't buy it, fans know what they're getting when they buy it and that's what they do. while i'm having fun playing it i hope you're having fun complaining about it it's nice to play a game that's doesn't throw together some cheesy storylineanyway, to everyone else, i just tried playing gears of war again, i seemed to remember it being alot better than it actually is. i won't be getting the second onePuhhhh-lease. The motion sensing was a slight factor, but the library and the marketing is a much larger factor and would account for the majority of sales.I've said it many times, I've played plenty of epic games, and none of them required 90 minute cut scenes. It's ridiculous. I'll state what I've said many times: Kojima would of made a great film director.90 minutes of sitting there when your expecting to be playing a game is completely and entirely unacceptable, no matter what system it's on, no matter who makes it. It's just absolutely ridiculous. Play beyond good & evil, Shit that looks like cutscenes is actually you playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 like i said, if you don't like it, don't buy it, i'll have fun with it instead and do you honestly think the new age groups would buy a wii just to play zelda? i'm talking about the people who usually wouldn't buy games but have because the wii is motion sensetive. do you really think familes would sit around their tv together watching each other play zelda? if so then get real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridin' the Nightrain Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 anyway, to everyone else, i just tried playing gears of war again, i seemed to remember it being alot better than it actually is. i won't be getting the second oneYeah you will. Gears is a game that is best for the very first experience where it totally wows you. It was less amazing the second time for me too but I appreciate it was a game that was built for giving you an amazing experience the first time.Buy Gears 2, love it, never play it again. In single player, at least, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack_the_ripper Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 like i said, if you don't like it, don't buy it, i'll have fun with it instead and do you honestly think the new age groups would buy a wii just to play zelda? i'm talking about the people who usually wouldn't buy games but have because the wii is motion sensetive. do you really think familes would sit around their tv together watching each other play zelda? if so then get realyou really aren't listening are you? it's the library that's selling the system. A majority of the library is casual games. CASUAL GAMES! you know, the games that are targeted to people who DON'T play games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 anyway, to everyone else, i just tried playing gears of war again, i seemed to remember it being alot better than it actually is. i won't be getting the second oneYeah you will. Gears is a game that is best for the very first experience where it totally wows you. It was less amazing the second time for me too but I appreciate it was a game that was built for giving you an amazing experience the first time.Buy Gears 2, love it, never play it again. In single player, at least, anyway.if i do buy it, i'll buy it at a bargin bin price, this summer has better games for me. i like gears the first time i played it though, it wasn't as brilliant as everyone says, but it was a solid game.jack, you're like a broken record. i'm done with you, keep trying hard, it might work out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 GT4 fans, watch this.....it's funny as hell (even if you don't agree) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 GT4 fans, watch this.....it's funny as hell (even if you don't agree) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 So I'll be picking up LEGO Indiana Jones this week. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I actually work at EB Games/Gamestop now. Speaking of videogames. Thinking about trading my PS2 and some old games in for a 360. I don't use it anymore anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 That's awesome man! I want to work at a Game Crazy. What were the main requirements to work there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Not being 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Nothing really, just had a good tone with the guys already working there. Btw, someone mentioned the 90 minutes cutscenes in MGS. They are far from that long. They are about an hour I believe. Can't wait till we get it in store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells_Bells Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 One of the cutscenes in MGS2 came close to the 45 minute mark and it really didnt seem that long so the prospect of hour long cutscenes doesnt really bother me that much to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 One of the cutscenes in MGS2 came close to the 45 minute mark and it really didnt seem that long so the prospect of hour long cutscenes doesnt really bother me that much to be honest.i believe that broke the "world record" for longest cut scene. it was in the gaming version of guiness book of world records anyway from what i read in the shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't have the patience of sitting through an hour long cutscenes, but if I don't I'll miss huge parts of the story. I doubt I'll play through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Not being 12?Well if that was it then I could and should be working there now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Btw, someone mentioned the 90 minutes cutscenes in MGS. They are far from that long. They are about an hour I believe. Can't wait till we get it in store.Yeah, I heard that was a lie as well. I think it was one of the reviewers for Gamepro that dispelled that rumor. He also said that you can pause the cut scenes, which I think is really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridin' the Nightrain Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Turns out there are two 90 min cutscenes in the game. The dude who smashed the rumour was wrong. It's been mentioned in a lot of reviews.I actually work at EB Games/Gamestop now. Speaking of videogames. Thinking about trading my PS2 and some old games in for a 360. I don't use it anymore anyway.I started in GAME last week, too.It's so awesome. My dream first job. From here to EDGE magazine... Edited June 3, 2008 by Ridin' the Nightrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack_the_ripper Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Btw, someone mentioned the 90 minutes cutscenes in MGS. They are far from that long. They are about an hour I believe. Can't wait till we get it in store.Yeah, I heard that was a lie as well. I think it was one of the reviewers for Gamepro that dispelled that rumor. He also said that you can pause the cut scenes, which I think is really cool.I still don't think hour long cut scenes have their places in video games, but atleast this does slightly redeem it if you can pause it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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