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  1. Figured with the U.S. mid-term elections commencing tomorrow, figured I'd start a thread on all things U.S. elections (if you're interested in Presidential elections, we'll see you in two years). Looks like the Senate is going to be handed back to the Republicans after 8 years of Democrat control. I suppose Obama's use of the veto will skyrocket over the next couple of years. If you've been impressed with how unproductive Congress has been since 2010, just wait until you see how little gets done and passed over the next two! And then there's also the state elections. John Oliver covers this pretty well here:
  2. The Matrix 4 (with Keanu Reeves)

    I actually loved Reloaded and felt it set the series up well for a mind-bending conclusion. Instead we got Revolutions, which could not have been worse. If it's more Reloaded and less Revolution, then fine. Either way, I'll probably see it.
  3. US Politics/Elections Thread

    U.S. yearly deficits to hit $1 trillion two years earlier than expected, beginning in 2020: https://www.axios.com/budget-deficit-trillion-ad34d147-1b85-4c67-a2df-58a267f6fa68.html
  4. US Politics/Elections Thread

    Once again, posting more bullshit that isn't true. https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/08/donald-trump-and-the-great-google-vote-heist/
  5. US Politics/Elections Thread

    I agree, but companies and their employees often face pressures to show revenue and profit growth. Making money isn't enough to a guarantee that one will keep their jobs or stock prices will increase in value. There could have been internal pressure to increase revenue and mid-level managers and their accountants could have taken that direction to grease operating revenues through dodgy means. There have been many companies that have made money but still cooked the books. Again, we have no way of knowing, but the fact that the SEC is investigating and have requested information on several fronts does suggest that there's something worth looking into. Many whisteblowers are often lower-level employees who may have been fired for reasons relating to not playing ball or other matters. Their station or rank isn't really relevant. Again, it could all be nothing or it could be something. But dismissing the allegations solely because Disney makes money is to ignore other instances where employees of money-making companies were cooking the books to justify bonus incentives related to revenue targets.
  6. US Politics/Elections Thread

    The reality is none of us, or anyone outside of Disney accounting operations or the SEC, really knows anything. It could be nothing, it could also be something (though I doubt Bob Iger and senior Disney management is directing park accounting staff to juice the books). And that was my original point. I just found it funny that your initial post included determinations that had nothing to do with whether the claims were valid or not.
  7. US Politics/Elections Thread

    Apparently the SEC doesn't think it's bullshit at this point in time: "The pattern of interaction with the SEC suggests the regulator is taking the allegations seriously, said Jordan A. Thomas, a former attorney in the SEC’s enforcement division and chairman of Labaton Sucharow’s whistleblower-representation practice. As Thomas told MarketWatch: “The SEC receives more than 25,000 tips, complaints and referrals each year, and the vast majority do not make it this far. The fact that the SEC has asked for more information more than once and conducted interviews suggests an inquiry is underway.” https://www.marketwatch.com/story/disney-whistleblower-told-sec-the-company-inflated-revenue-for-years-2019-08-19 Maybe you should call the SEC and give them your insider perspective as a resident of Orlando.
  8. US Politics/Elections Thread

    Your initial rebuttal made no references to these issues. You simply stated it couldn't be true because you live in Orlando and see how popular Disney parks are. That's like sitting outside of Laguardia and thinking it's a well run airport because of all the planes landing and taking off, when in fact it's probably one of America's worst run airports.
  9. US Politics/Elections Thread

    Yep. It's basically trolling in real life.
  10. US Politics/Elections Thread

    Your post literally made me laugh out loud. Disney is a conglomerate, with parks and resorts only one component of its overall business. It doesn't even account for the majority of the revenue Disney generates. So while I have no way of knowing whether the allegations are true, I do know that simply living in Orlando and watching how many kids get packed into its theme park is no way to determine the validity of such a claim. Disney is a massive company, for sure, but so was Enron.
  11. Avengers: Endgame

    You're going to be waiting indefinitely. Netflix's deal with Disney (who owns Marvel) ended at the end of 2018. Only movies released in 2018 will be streamed on Netflix. All Disney owned movies released in 2019 onwards will not be streamed on Netflix. Disney is launching their own streaming service (Disney+) in a few months and I believe it will be available when it gets rolled out.
  12. US Politics/Elections Thread

    Yeah, I don't see him winning either. There were a lot of people who sat at home in 2016 because they assumed Clinton was going to win. That presumption won't be present in 2020. At best I can see him keeping Ohio, but losing Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida.
  13. US Politics/Elections Thread

    He was in a similar position with Clinton at this point in 2015. Things will likely tighten up once the Democrats land on a nominee. The question will come down to the economy. If the economy stays healthy then Trump could conceivably win. I'm still suspicious of that outcome as Trump won't have the same advantages he had in 2016 (now has a track record, the Democratic candidate won't have the presumption of winning, he's proven to be as terrible as a statesman as he is a human being, etc.). But if the economy starts trending in the wrong direction, he's done. There are a lot of people who hold their noses when supporting Trump. The "I don't like the racism or the tweeting, but look at the economy" crowd will quickly turn on him. 2020 will likely be the ugliest election in American history if the economy starts to contract. Everyone knows Trump will run on the culture war even with a decent economy. A shit economy will only reinforce this strategy.
  14. US Politics/Elections Thread

    I'm not sure if I would blame the American leadership class. Don't consumers deserve some of the blame as well?
  15. US Politics/Elections Thread

    Agreed. To change supply changes now would take decades and there's no guarantee that it would help American workers. Americans, by and the large, have shown greater preference to cheaper priced goods than home-based manufacturing. So long as that dynamic remains in place, nothing will change with respect to bring back jobs from China and neighbouring countries. What I don't understand is why Trump doesn't see the inevitable on this matter. The Chinese can wait him out. He's got an election to win 2020 so he's not in any position to impose pain on American consumers over the next sixteen months. And he's likely not doing himself any favours with farm country, with some farmers making fifty percent less than when Trump began his bumbling plans on trade.
  16. US Politics/Elections Thread

    One of the many reasons why Trump's trade war with China will end in failure: https://www.axios.com/companies-china-supply-chains-peter-navarro-f13bf7c5-93d4-4364-b4c8-af90d2137d17.html Companies don't change course in the matter of a few quarters. It's insane to think that large multinational companies will rip up their operations in China and move production back to America. If anything, any move out of China will only benefit surrounding Asian nations that have not been the target of Trump's attacks. Even if Trump wins in 2020 he still won't be in power long enough to force trade agreements that would bring production back to America. Automation will do more to cripple Chinese manufacturing in the medium to long term than tariffs.
  17. No it's not. There have been some inconsistencies with dates. That's about it. Such as? Again, do we know the mother to be correct? Whatever testimony you're alluding to could be wrong or referenced out of context. Your last three posts, including your response, have been incredibly arrogant and dripping of disdain for anyone who chooses to believe Robson, Safechuck, and MJ's other accusers. Within your same post you claim I have not, and choose not to, investigate further. So please, save me and everyone the sanctimonious horse shit. You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. The truth is no one, other than Robson, Safechuck, and I suppose the soul of MJ should it exist, knows what happened. Everyone else is peddling in belief on this matter. So don't take it so personally. It really doesn't matter to you personally one way or another in the grand scheme of things if someone chooses to believe that MJ sexually assault prepubescent boys. Again, wrong. I stated that I was on the fence, that I hadn't really looked into the matter other than reading the headlines and a Readers Digest article interviewing the lead detective in the Chandler accusations. I just hadn't committed myself to looking into the matter either way because frankly, I really didn't want MJ to be guilty of what he stood accused of. But after HBO film I did spend a lot of time looking at all the various claims and information out there. I also spent a lot of time on how victims of sexual assault internalize and process the trauma. Ultimately I decided that both Robson and Safechuck are telling the truth, regardless of whether a few days are off here and there. Again, I honestly don't give a shit if people want to believe MJ is innocent of the allegations. As I said, there's no way to really know for sure. But what I take issue with is attitudes like yours that chastise people like myself and others for believing one side over another. Moreover, what really bothers me is when MJ supporters find the need to make up information or claims to undermine the accusers and those who support them. You yourself have even done it, with the claim that Robson and Safechuck have made money from these claims despite providing zero evidence to support that claim. Towellie has made similar bogus accusations in this thread that can't be substantiated anywhere. Again, you want to believe MJ is innocent. Fine. But let's stop making shit up to support your opinion.
  18. The previous rulings dismissing the case are on appeal. I've seen no evidence that the case was refiled. I don't agree. There are often multiple victims with these kinds of cases and it makes sense that the legal representation for both Robson and Safechuck would seek to discover other victims of MJ. Wrong. I said I was on the fence as I hadn't paid much attention to the matter. The video led me to look into the issue with greater interest and I've read a lot on not just this one particular matter but also on child victimization in general. Nope. My point being that inconsistencies doesn't prove them to be liars. As mentioned earlier, it's common for victims of sexual assault to get certain details wrong (locations, dates, etc.). It's not uncommon for memory to fail victims relative to particular details. This is compounded when the abuse happened decades earlier when the victims were children. Moreover, why isn't Jackson and the Jackson estate not held to the same grounds? Why are the many inconsistencies given by Jackson dismissed and yet the inconsistencies within Robson and Safechuck's accounts deemed proof of their dishonesty? Not an argument myself and others who believe Jackson's guilt on the matter is trying to make.
  19. 1) My opinion is based on many factors and influences, the film being one of them.. No one knows what truly happened. Each of us can look at everything and make our own minds up. If you want to believe MJ is innocent, fine. But don't get on your high horse because others, like myself, choose to believe that man who slept with several young boys is guilty of sexual assault. 2) The legal avenues for civil litigation has all but closed for both Robson and Safechuck. The HBO film was made after those avenues were closed. So no, I don't believe their motivation to voice their stories is motivated by money. 3) Accounts from both sides are filled with inconsistencies. Victims of sexual assault often have factual inconsistencies in their stories, particularly if the abuse happened decades ago when they're children. Pointing out inconsistencies isn't proof that the accusers are lying or that the abuse never happened. 4) Please name how they've made money from their claims? Please provide specific examples rather than groundless speculation?
  20. Yeah, because never having a childhood somehow makes it understandable for MJ to sleep in the same bed with a revolving number of prepubescent boys.
  21. Bingo. Really? Didn't realize either man had made a dollar from these accusations thus far...
  22. Mass Shooting at Walmart in El Paso

    More guns in schools... What could go wrong? https://www.thedailybeast.com/first-graders-picked-up-gun-intended-to-protect-ohio-school-in-concealed-carry-program?ref=home
  23. Epstein Dead: Reported Suicide

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  25. Epstein Dead: Reported Suicide

    So the autopsy didn't do much to subside the conspiracies about Epstein's death. Coroner found broken bones in Epstein's neck that's more associated with homicide than murder. Neck bones can break as a result of hanging, but this does further raise suspicions.