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Somewhere, someday, somehow, it would be awesome to have a full soundboard or video released / leaked of one of the 2016 shows. That Prague gig was an awesome setting. Axl really was impressive with ACDC. Very fortunate to have been at the Manchester gig.

Better than expected. Nothing special though.

Great marketing, massive fan here, only just heard something maybe dropping tomorrow? They have a big problem if even the hardcore are losing interest. Time to call it a day.

It may technically be 'better' but the actual sound to the ears of a human ...completely identical. I would love to agree with you but it's the same to me.

Monsters that leaked is the final version of the track. Those trying to convince themselves into thinking it isn't are kidding themselves.

I'm going for 6 out of 10. It's a decent song, nothing special though and clearly a little experimental which is cool. It's as good as many CD songs but not a stand out. If it was on an album, it would be one of those songs you listen to occasionally like Shacklers or Scraped. The casual GNR fan will probably horrified that it isn't a UYI style classic. Oh well. Plenty of forgettable songs on those albums!!! #shotgunblues

Assuming Atlas is released next with Monsters as a B Side ... Atlas would be up with Perhaps and Monsters about as good as Hard Skool. The sooner these tracks come out and the Chinese Era is put to bed, the better. (I love Chinese Democracy btw but it is time to move on from these 20+ year old tracks)

Probably right although that is because Axl can sing 'Absurd' repeatedly without much difficulty. I still hate the song. Worse than Riad for me. I just don't get it at all. Hard Skool is decent but was crap live in Budapest this year, really underwhelming. Haven't seen perhaps live. TG could be better love than on the single although it depends on Axl being able to deliver which unfortunately is less likely these days.

The pixelated image is fucking disgusting. Clearly isn't meant to be like that. GNR management fucking amateur hour once again. Stupid fucking Team Brazil. Unprofessional idiots with no idea what they are doing. Embarrassing for one of the biggest legacy rock bands in the world.

Vinyl has arrived. Underwhelming 🤣 oh well. The General is fucking weird, one minute I think it's shit. The next I'm enjoying it. Putting it in the average box for now. Of the 4 official releases I'd go 1. Perhaps 2. Hard Skool 3. The General 4. Absurd (utter utter shite)

Almost identical to the leak. Not the best GNR song but certainly not the worst. Can see it on an album but it is weird as a 'single'. Most people would be like wtf is this!? It's ok. Nothing more. Certainly not excited about it.

Better audio quality at least?

I thought that at the time. Quite possible that we see some clips in a video maybe. Especially as I don't think Slash was as animated in Mexico.....

It is. At the time I remember being like, wtf this is the most anticipated rock album in years and that is the fucking cover 🤣 convinced it was a joke. Anyway, fortunately the music is great. Mostly. 🤣

You would hope so but.... The CD cover has always been a major letdown for me! Remember the debates about it at the time.

Not sure what people really want from the artwork? 🤔 It's fine. Perfectly reasonable image. Better than a weird 8 ball thing for perhaps.

I was listening and thinking what song is next .. oh yeah, Madagascar. Fucking brilliant. I never liked Riad. If the World is ok but a bit weird. Scraped has always been interesting, I like it but can understand if others don't. Really hope that we get all the Chinese leftovers eventually! Given how different the tracks are, it must have been a nightmare deciding on the order and what eventually made the final album. Clearly there are a lot of other tracks that are all different which didn't make it. Where would The General have gone on that album?

Listened to the album in full today, it really is a great record. Only 1 or 2 weak songs in my view. If the world and Riad. Utter shite Riad. If the world is ok but very average. The guitar work is incredibly good. Axl's vocal is amazing and every song is unique. It feels like a project as opposed to a collection of songs that flow in anyway. Sorry is better than I remembered. IRS is a beast. Even Shaklers was enjoyable. So many layers, great riffs, outrageous vocals etc. What's not to like. Feel sorry for old school fans and others that don't give it a chance. It is obviously different to UYI etc but it is a brilliant record in my view. Really enjoyed listening to it to be honest. Haven't heard it as an album in full for a long time.

Has anyone found an entry for The General yet on the writing credits/royalties websites? Previously it was registered as General and Monsters. Wondering if anything has changed on that front given we are a couple of weeks away from a release of what we expect will likely just be The General?

Allegations. Unproven. Fernando is probably an arsehole for many many reasons. I don't know him but what I do know is that this at present these are purely allegations and despite the shitshow of GNR, everyone is entitled to a fair 'trial'. Interesting how a significant proportion of the issues here relate to money. #justsayin

Seriously good. Well done. Impressive!

Video for General.... I'd tend to see that as a real possibility. Wonder if that is why they played it at Hollywood Bowl and in Mexico? Slash seemed to go for it on stage in Hollywood (less so in Mexico...). Could have been for some contrasting concert footage. Perhaps video was good to be fair. Maybe not but hey, let's hope!

My 7inch vinyl can sound as shit as it wants, it'll never be played anyway! It'll sit on the shelf with all the others looking cool....

Good work! Let's hope that Monsters is indeed still on the vinyl as a hidden track. (then released digitally)

Fernando aside.... The registration of the song as 'one' is the biggest mystery/clue. It is clear that they are indeed separate songs so why the fuck would they be registered together unless it was for a really good reason? Anyone found a separate registration as of yet for either song? The fact they were leaked together from the same source... Likely to be quite recent recordings as they appear to be finished tracks (although lower audio quality). The timing of the leaks is also crucial. The communication from GNR hinted at a 'quality' issue which would could be a problem if they were trying to add a hidden track. Still holding out some hope this end, especially as I just don't feel either track is good enough on its own but together they do sound more impressive, telling a story.