hudsonsaul

Glad they are releasing stuff and most of y'all are happy. 

Personally after two listens (one about 30mins after release) and then just now. 

Controversial but I prefer Absurd. 

But regardless of that comparison, the drums sound awful, not the beats themselves, but the tone and mixing, whilst the song itself feels like they just lumped Slash whaling away using his Amplitube plug in, and turned up duffs bass to remind us he is there. Some good vocals albeit old. 

Not much soul and feels to me to be far removed from any GNR sound (in a bad way), the rockers on CD are much better and sound bigger. Maybe it's the mix I don't know but it just doesn't sound particularly real. 

Excited stuff is coming out and I'll continue to spin the song and give my ears a chance to digest properly but initially it's a bit of a 'meh' song and sounds like a demo being polished.

To be fair the leaked demo ages ago I wasn't too hot on and couldn't see the excitement for it, but held hope due to it being a demo. 

Imo they need to just get together and make new music in a studio. 

Underwhelmed, but can understand why a lot of folk enjoy it and glad loads of you are stoked with it. 

'Home Fuck'

Was shocked it hasn't been mentioned yet after 6 pages

On 8/30/2021 at 8:41 AM, allwaystired said:

Whether it is or not, it takes a certain type of person to go on about it quite so relentlessly! 

Basically, I started the book being totally indifferent to him, finished it thinking he was an arse! 

Yup. Agree. 

Come VR, every interview I saw or read of him he came across as a sleeze and thinking he's all that. Even nowadays how he talks, dresses, etc the dude thinks he walks on water and is gods gift to women. 

Not suprised to here ppls opinions on the book here, I've not read it but by sounds of it it is what I was expecting. 

It's a shame though, as he had front seats to an interesting time wiht the band, recording, etc. 

You need some rock n roll anecdotes and stuff of course but so many people are more interested I the behind the scenes shit of albums, recording, dramas, touring etc. 

Mark Lanegan's book is a good read mind you. 

On 8/27/2021 at 2:45 AM, invisible_rose said:

I think that would require him recording line by line - which IIRC is how it's believed he recorded much of Chinese, right? It's possible, but I suspect unlikely. I think it's far more likely that they're using the CD sessions as the basis because Axl's voice was in great shape at periods, it's the best option they have, and honestly, I think Axl needs to let go and put it out there for his own good.

We might see the odd track after that, but I suspect they'll probably end up on the festival circuit and rinse the vault for all it's worth. 

Do you have a link to anything about recording of CD vocals line by line? 

Vaguely remember something like that too, burried as a one line in a wider article/post/thread (which in itself was an interesting read). 

16 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

Izzy and Slash having an orgy in the confined space of their practice room they were living out of, and Izzy ended up jizzing right on Slash's leg.

Yuck.

 

Also, that time Izzy took a leak in the food prep area of an airplane and got arrested.

Don't think they were even having an orgy, wasn't Izzy just having sex with her with Slash bunked up / sleeping near by?

The airplane piss is definitely a legendary story in my mind too.

2 hours ago, RussTCB said:

As with all things GN'R, I'll be happy to be wrong. 

I'd love for there to be an HS single on the way, physical or otherwise. I just think that if people read the thread for themselves, they'll see its not exactly cut and dried. 

On a side note, Fernando did say he'd try to stop back by later. So maybe hell clarify then? 

He basically confirmed that there is a plan for a physical release of sorts (and mentioned the whole vinyl pressing plants being backed up). I didn't read it as him confirming it as a single for Absurd or Hardschool, just that some physical media from them was coming (including vinyl).

IMO that could be anything from a single, an EP, an album, or a combination of all of these three.

Would seem odd to go through the pressing plant grind for a just a single, so I'm hoping it's an album plus singles. Wishful thinking, could end up with nothing as we know

1 hour ago, Ak1nney said:

I don't disagree, but sometimes, a song is what it is. I know that sounds dumb, but I'm 99% sure that this is what the song is supposed to be. I definitely agree that reworking a few parts around would make it better, but I think as simple of a track as it is, that's just what it's meant to be. Sort of a punk feel. I'm not a prolific songwriter, but sometimes you just write something as a musician/artist and say, that's it, that's the whole idea realized. For better or worse. He had 20 years to make it different and didn't really push the song meaning any further. Slash and Duff made it into something better than what it was 5 years ago. We can thank them for that.

It's definitely got a punk asthetic, and part of the repeated verse weighs into that too. 

11 hours ago, willl said:

Found it on Spotify 

 

 

Very cool. 

Old Tune - check that song out, it's on Spotify, one of my favourite izzy tracks. 

Hammerhead off Like a Dog is cool too. 

Really enjoy his stuff and it's such a shame we can't have him write songs for/with guns anymore. 

3 minutes ago, surforia said:

Just got back from the show.  I was down in the pit on Slash’s side.  It rocked.  They looked like they were having a blast too.  I don’t know if it just sounds so much better in person, but Ax delivered a very strong performance.  There were definitely flashes of rasp - even at the end of patience.  

Absurd sounded f’n sick live-they use those effects on his voice and it sounded trippy hearing it.  There’s no doubt that the verses definitely sound better live without the accelerated “screaming fucking banshee” that sounds copied and pasted too early.   The slash absurd solos (and Richard’s too) absolutely slayed.  The song really has a great punk vibe to it, and it gives me similar feels to when I saw them play Down on the Farm in Baltimore’06.  

Maddy was a nice surprise.  They had a whole lyric video for the song playing behind them that really kicked in during the movie quotes-I was surprised to see that they had a full video treatment for a song that they barely play, but it was really great.  It makes you wonder if they have other video treatments for songs they haven’t played on this leg yet.

Overall, I’m so glad I went.  They seem like they are really cohesive as a band, and the absurd, maddy and seeker additions are a good sign that they are having fun, that Axl is loosening up a bit with the setlist and that there is hope there are more surprises coming. 

One thing is for sure, we all are so fast to slam the band and their performances....... but from my own experience over the years, as well as talking to others, seeing posts on here. There is no doubt that fans absolutely love it when they are there in person.

Glad you had a blast dude. How was the rest of the crowd?

26 minutes ago, axlskAmpf said:

Greetings old pals far and wide! Big poster from 06-09, I think my last post was 2 years ago or something saying I haven't heard leaks and don't want to. I'll wait for official releases! Yeah, so here we are! 

I heard about Absurd yesterday, so not that atop of music news, and gave it an eager listen! So,,, yeah. Then today I wondered how the fans are enjoying this, came here looked at pages 1-5. Then checked 50 to see if better, the same. Then 100, 'still not growing on me.' 

I think the above post from page 2 wins the "Sad Comedy" award. Sad as Modano might be right, yet still funny as hell. So yeah, Axl might see the reaction and never release another thing, but C'mon, what would they expect with this!? 0 melody, sheer chaos, it's OMG all over. Silkworms I mostly read, sure, same. Another poster thought it was a joke, real song coming at midnight, it broke my heart to know these dreams were to be shattered. 

In case Modano is right back on point... 

Man this song is amaaaazing! WOW, what a moving piece of lyrical and musical wonderment! Lay some more of these "Big Guns" on us GnR, can't wait! 

There are plenty of ppl that like it. And large amounts that don't. Same goes for pretty much all songs really. 

I cannot stand Sweet Child, never have, but plenty of ppl dig it. 

OMG I didn't like the first listen but did after a few spins. Still like it now. Difference is that a lot of these songs I like and the whole of CD falls into that, is its not held on some legendry pedestal like the gnr catalog used to be for me. 

Said pedestal is unrealistic. All other bands and artists I absolutely dig, I'll go through dips n' phases. 

Problem with Guns is they are the absolute easiest band in the world to criticise. Imo they're doomed regardless with anything they release.

I for one like the song, could be better, but I enjoy the loudness and the aggressiveness of it. Albeit in a different vein then the aggressiveness of say appetite. 

Really enjoyed Like a Dog. Had no idea it was linked to VR in any respect, was just an izzy fan and excited to get a copy straight from the source. 

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure I lost it many years ago in a move. Every now and then I do a big search through all my crap to see if it turns up, and to no avail. 

Wouldn't bother me going by my excitement for CD despite hearing the majority a shit ton before the official release. 

I'd like to try not listen to any leaks and stuff and give the new release a listen like I do with all other bands that release music. 

But, tbh, anything coming out of gnr camp official, demo, leak etc. I have decades of curiosity and GNR nerding that basically means I'll give whatever a listen as soon as its available. 

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

Absurd would be the worst song on Chinese by a country mile, I usually hold those places for scraped and Rhiad. Slash lifts the song but if it was on Chinese god knows what it would have sounded like. Some of ye have heard the leak... I'll skip that search😄

I hope that it's not too late to say Absurd was an experiment but it won't be released on the new album. I know Beta confirmed it being on the final album but it would be great not to have to skip it everytime😄 

Interesting. 

As for me Scrapped and Rhiad are some of my picks as favorites on CD. I lean more towards the heavier music, as apposed to the ballads. 

So for me the tracks CD, Shacklers, Better, Scrapped, Riad and IRS I lean towards over the others. 

Absurd fits into that mould, and compared to the tracks I've listed is probably the weaker one so can see why it'd be dropped for the other heavier options on CD. 

In saying that I hope Absurd isn't on the new album, if there ever is one, as I'd rather new material as apposed to rehashed stuff. 

Thoroughly enjoying Dinosaur Jr's latest album (Sweep it into space), cannot stop spinning it.

Other recent pick ups: 

Little Hurricane - Love Luck.
Little Hurricane - Same Sun, Same Moon.
Dinosaur Jr - Give a Glimpse of what Yer not.
Wool - Budspawn

On 8/11/2021 at 5:37 AM, RussTCB said:

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/oasis-knebworth-1996/

This is gonna be a GREAT set! 

Yup. I'll grab the vinyl.

Already got tickets to catch the doco in the cinema - music in that setting is generally awesome to listen too. Remember being blown away by the blues tunes being cranked through the audio system at my local when watching The Departed. In fact, I watched it multiple times in the theater predominately for that

Delayed posting about Absurd, due to wanting to give it a decent chance before reacting (think my first listen was through my phone speakers lol).

Anyways, after multiple proper listens, I dig it. By no means best work, but it's aggressive and simple. My main criticism would be Axl's high pitch screams that are really clean - don't like these at all and it sounds a bit lame. Other than that, enjoy the track, enjoy the punk vibes, and enjoy it played loud.

Fingers crossed this opens the flood gates now for them and lets them understand that shit doesn't have to be better than AFD and the like - just release shit as a band please.

Also - bit of a bitter taste seeing as it's Silkworms and thus not new or anything, but I can see past that for now. If they did an album of predominately old rehashed songs with Duff and Slash adding their pieces and continuing to rely on old vocals I'd feel a bit ripped off.

Final note - glad it was the furthest thing from a ballad too.

Glad they finally released something, albeit an old one that didn't make the cut.

But I'd like to think that this will be the start of them dropping a few more maybe? 

Doesn't have to be a big hit single or a crowd pleasing song really, I see it more as a way to appease fans that something is getting released - tie them over until the 'big guns' come out.

But this is GnR, so it could just be a blip on the radar and nothing more for years n' years other than rumors/snippets about how it the release of the song was supposed to be the first step in some grand plan but everyone let them down in the process, labels, executives, etc followed by a lawsuit or two.

Nothing VIP about that. How insulting to folk forking out for a VIP treatment.

At least maybe allow them to go in early and check out sound checkout or something, or a backstage area / view from the side of stage etc. Appalling treatment of fans imo.

14 hours ago, mystery said:

True, it's just a life thing in general. I've always thought Axl purposefully planned that meeting with Gilby. They were both at a Roger Waters concert earlier in the night iirc. Axl probably got word that Gilby was playing later and went to check it out.

I think it might've been Axl's way of making amends since his firing never seemed personal and mostly a way to bring Paul Tobias in. A recording of that performance would be my number 1 holy grail. I'm wondering if the club recorded it?

I could be wrong but from memory there was a snippet audience recording of when he sung Dead Flowers with GIlby? Might be mistaken though. Certainly there is the photo from the time though.

2 hours ago, mystery said:

Reminds me of Axl and Gilby in 2000. Axl has a strange way of firing/letting go of people, hanging out and getting along with them years later, and then never seeing them again.

yeah its a bit weird.

but at the same time, the older you get, this is quite common too from my experience.

2 hours ago, BadApples87 said:

tickets are not selling well for this, even in the arenas.  look for Groupon soon!

Are the prices in the same range as the previous ticket prices for NITL tour? If so then that is crazy imo. For multiple reasons, they already cashed in during the first few rounds of the tour, not touring on the back on anything so same old stuff, the 'reunion' vibe surely can't sell tickets as easily now, and on the back of a pandemic when huge numbers of their fans would be well out of pocket compared to normal.

6 hours ago, ToonGuns said:

Not technically "vinyl" which I know is most of the chatter on this thread, but did anyone hear about the mess up with the Motley Crue cassette box set for RSD... the idiots put a magnet in the packaging which is wiping all the cassettes!!! Seriously appalling QA control, and hilarious 😀

This is gold, love it. Particularly as I imagine most involved probably barely remember cassettes or perhaps have even ever used one.

On 6/6/2021 at 12:02 PM, Tadsy said:

Have any support acts been announced? 

Gary Clark Jr is supporting them in Aus and I think NZ.

Wasn't planning on seeing Guns this tour for all the normal reasons that have been echo'd in the forum , but with him in tow I'll probably do it, however I'm hoping GCJ uses this to do some of his own gigs as well.

New pickups, well online orders.

Violent Femmes - Add it Up
Rag n Bone Man - Bluestown EP
Little Simz - Grey Area
Black Keys - Delta Kreme
Robert Pete Williams - S/T 1971

Should all be arriving soon

Hmmm.

I'd do similar to what Mendez said. 

A good quality audio interface over the real deal amp, along with Guitar Rig or whatever. My personal preference is Amplitube, works well, sounds great, lots of options. When I'm not using my amp and doing basic recording, its guitar > pedal board > audio interface > DAW w/ Ampltube. Then headphones for out (but studio monitors etc work well). Audio interface will make life easier for tracking bass and shit as well. I personally don't bother with the amplitude pedals and shit, and just use my pedal board and a classic amp that suits my style/need (or generally pick one that is close to what i'd play if amp'd up).

Other than that, I use a Blues Junior. Gone through plenty of amps in my time (jcm800s, Fender twin, Blues Deluxe, etc etc). The Blues Junior has never left, despite all the other amps coming and going, and holds up all the time. I'll sometimes mic this amp up and record at home too. I have a semi decent attenuator for it as well, which gives me a lot more room to move without fucking off the neighbours and family. Highly recommend.

Failing that, something like this would probably do you well: https://revvamplification.com/products/d20/ - been tempted many a times, heaps of reviews online that you can go fall down a rabbit hole with.

IMO if not gigging, then do the audio interface option, most likely ends up slightly cheaper and also has more options available going forward, until you feel the practical need for an amp (gigging, jamming with mates etc.).

Let us know what you go with