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Not sure why people want the media outlets to cover this.  If it gets blown up by the media, it will only increase the value of the CDs, making the songs more valuable assets of the hoarders.  If no one except us care about these leaks, then someone is more likely to leak it instead of holding out for tens of thousands of dollars.  That's my view, at least.

The guys on the GN'R discord are just trying to get what everyone wants - as many leaked tracks to the fans (and not solely among hoarders) as possible.  At least they're being creative and trying.  Give 'em a break.

I like it a lot.  I think the bridge works better in this version than in the other studio leak.

The first leak of IRS had one section that had a particularly jarring change, but the final included an extra guitar solo to smooth out the transition.  Hopefully they’ll do that here.

^i guess that's possible, but do we know whether the General had vox in '06?

the only reason I think this is BS is that, based on the leaks we've heard from '00/'01, Chinese Democracy (the song) has always had an extended intro that would be indicative of an album opener.  Having it appear after Better seems weird.  Plus, isn't "The General" supposed to be an epic, Estranged-like song - why would they open an album with something like that (although I guess UYI II opens with Civil War).

Today will not be a productive work day.

Listening to CITR '99 right now - after all these years, to finally hear it in great quality is nothing short of cathartic.

I actually think they’ll release an EP.  not betting my house on it, but the timing finally feels right to me, and I’ve been checking this board every day since ‘06.  

46 minutes ago, zombux said:

https://www.captiongenerator.com/1470972/Axl-finds-out-about-Zutauts-locker

for everyone's amusement, credits go to the caption maker

This was awesome.  Only a hardcore fan through the CD era would get a lot of it, but I’m glad to be in that boat.  The caption to the old woman was hysterical, as was the caption for Hitler clearing the room.

Great to hear multiple people have the files.  

Long time member but hardly ever post.  I’m happy to donate some coin to axlrosefan4life or whoever else paid cash.

3 hours ago, Pele said:

I think Scraped would likely be the worst song on the last N-Sync album, let alone a GNR release.  

It's staggering that that made the cut, which is why I've always questioned the quality of Oklahoma, Atlas and the others....

The general consensus was that Axl was saving certain songs for the follow-up album(s).

If he really did overdub in his low register, then it's pretty cool.  Kind of like a lot of stuff on CD right?

42 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Can’t listen to the stream - what does Niven say?

He said that Axl has gone back into the studio and listened to tracks that didn't make CD, implying that those would be on a new release, but "tinkered" by the new band.

I just pulled the trigger, too.  I've been in the market for a new turntable so, it ended up being a pretty good deal.  That turntable is prob worth about $300 on its own, so I feel like I got a decent deal.

7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

If Metallica had organised Guns N' Roses's boxset their would have been 11 cds including all the demos (the missing Pasha stuff, etc) and alternative takes and stuff that hasn't already leaked through bootlegs, as well as three whole live shows. There would have been also four dvds of videos, live shows, interviews and stuff (music videos as they've done but Ritz 87, Ritz 88, something else?). You'd get vinyls also. There would have been no useless tat, and the whole thing would set you back $199.98!

This is so true and also so sad to read.

59 minutes ago, Tourettes2400 said:

Yes and it does look amazing. It's really crazy, it's like they actually care about their fans

I have the MOP box - it's sick.  They've certainly come a long way from Lars handing a ledger to a federal judge providing the names of every Metallica fan who illegally downloaded their music on Napster.

3 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

100% this. 

What GN'R ended up releasing was basically a whole box of nothing and then way overpriced it to boot.

I guess I"m in the minority in that I think the box was cool, but I would have included a live show on double vinyl and a bluray of an AFD era show.  Waaaaayyyyyy over priced though.

$930.00 USD on Amazon right now.

For shits and giggles, I just tried adding 10,000 LnL editions into my cart on the site, and it only let me add 398.  

16 minutes ago, ironmt said:

It's hard to believe that with the fan reaction that they received and with the money they made on this tour that they are willing to part ways and do solo shit. None of these guys are taking Guns N Roses very serious. They could finish the final leg of the tour at the end of the year, take a few months off, hit the studio around March of 2019, release a new album or a few new songs and be back on the road by the winter of 2019. But this Is Guns N Roses and nothing ever makes sense. It does make a person wonder if the past 2 years was nothing more than a money grab as some have suggested in the past. I am not sure how anyone could think that Slash and Duff are any different than previous hired hands when Slash makes comments  like   "Will be coming back to see if they are going to do anything new" or "hopes that GNR will reconvene to work on an album next year"

Same old story with a new cast of characters. 

Well, tons of bands do this kind of thing.  For example, the members of Pearl Jam do solo projects between tours; they’ve said it takes the pressure off a bit when they get back together because they’ve had other creative outlets.  Let’s hope that gnr actually reconvenes, records and releases a follow-up we’re all hoping for.

1 hour ago, newusedillusion said:

Why would it stop it? He only has 1/3 of that material. It wouldn't even make sense for Axl or Sanctuary to stop it because 100% of nothing is less than 33.3% of something.

What you say is true, I guess, but why would Slash and Duff help to buy out Axl's contract? They already have their share of the most valuable parts of the catalogue.

I'm going to throw out the conjecture that there is a stipulation somewhere that Sanctuary can take action on if they can confirm Axl is deliberately ripping them off and a threat by the band to shelve music would probably open up a lawsuit.

My thought was based on an assumption (which could be entirely false for all I know) that Slash and Duff currently don’t have rights in future gnr music releases of new material.  If I were them, I would want some stake in the new music, so maybe they chip in to buyout the Sanctuary contract, and in exchange for that, Axl cuts them back in?  Seems logical, but this is gnr we’re talking about after all, so who knows? 

1 hour ago, Wagszilla said:

I'm not familiar with the intricacies of the music business but the above is simplistic at best.

You're not mentioning profitability, costs, an early buyout fee, and more. 

Axl/GNR are likely the only people who care about buying out the contract. This isn't Michael Jackson buying The Beatles catalog. 

It's an extremely small market, like looking for gold-plated Lamborghini Murcielago in the middle of Alaska. They have absolutely no leverage in the deal.

The shows promote themselves to a large extent but Live Nation has been doing enough leg work on top of it.

Can you picture Team Brazil working the Asian and Euro markets to push a new album in those markets? Can you picture the business savvy of Beta being the greasy handshake that moves mountains within the industry like Azoff and his ilk? 

Yeah, that's what I though.

Axl's been around LA long enough to know some people but that surely doesn't translate to reliable business connections. 

Axl drove the GNR brand into the ground the last 20 years, why the fuck would anyone sell low when the brand is at it's relative apex? 

Well maybe, and I agree that TB doesn’t seem like the most business savvy team, but buying out a lease 65% of the way into the deal isn’t exactly sending a man to the moon either.  No need to move mountains.  I’m sure they would just hire some bigtime law firm to handle the negotiations anyway.  

4 hours ago, bigcountry said:

I too think if they are working on a new song/album they won't say a word. For one big reason if it implodes it will hurt the GNR brand.

As far as Axl promising CD so many timesm I truely believe it was to come out in 2002 give or take a year if it was up to Axl alone. The record company wanted a reunion plain and simple. I also think the orginal members of GNR done what they could to get it shout down. I really feel that one of the reason the plug was pulled on the 2002 us tour along with Axl being so late and not showing up at all. 

in 06 I thought cd was coming out so many things where happening and then nothing.

Axl and the record company got in a pissing contest and everyone lost even the fans. 

I am in no way saying Axl didn't fuck up and alot but I don't think it was all him. Back then if you pushed him he would push back in a way that was self destructive for all.

I wish we knew so much more from 94-2014 there is so much Mistery and crazy stories surrounding the CD era  it's hard to tell fact from fiction just on what we know much less what wee don't.

Yes Axl is an ass for sure. 

This is just a theory but did anyone else notice for the 2009/10 tour started he had gained weight he got more mellow and that continued until the end of the CD era touring,  it has been said many times he is bipolar or some other mental illness well alot of those medications you take for that cause weight gain even if you don't eat alot hell you can gain in a month up to 20+lbs if the medication affects you that way and if he did have a mental illness it could just be he found the right medication combo and said to hell with the weight I want to feel better. But that is just a thought.

 

 

I think you’re right that the record company f#cked things up around the release of CD, but on the other hand, nobody put a gun to Axl’s head and made him tell Rolling Stone at the Korn album release party that he had finished 26 of 32 tracks (or whatever it was).  Same with the Kurt Loder interview.  Same with playing CD at random strip clubs, etc.  Same with the 2006 MTV VMAs (or whichever one he attended to introduce The Killers).  Every time he opened up about the album, it just created more pressure and hype, and the album became more mythical (none of which was his fault, really).  No, my guess is that everything stays close to the vest this time (hence Slash’s comment “I’m not lighting that fuse.”).