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It looks familiar.

But if it's new, God help us all.

WHY IS THIS GUY IN GUNS N' ROSES!

DJ's been saying the same bullshit for years now and nothing has come of it.

Some people are always upset.

GnR is the modern day Spinal Tap. It's very fuckin rock n roll to just walk on stage and go. Like Chuck Berry did, old school.

Comparing Axl Rose to Chuck Berry?

HAHAHA.

Wasn't Axl supposedly in good shape before Rock In Rio 2011?

Than, yeah...

They're officially a Vegas act now. Wonderful.

When that dries up they can have residency at Atlantic City or Branson, Missouri.

Hey, I wouldn't mind.

More touring?

Yawn.

Most of the general public wouldn't be excited about new material. If they made a big deal about possibly playing new songs in the announcement, it could even deter casual fans, thinking they won't be playing as many hits. I don't think it could've hurt to just mention the band plans to debut a couple new songs (If that's indeed the case), but I think it was a wise PR move to not make it a focal point of the announcement.

If you're set on going to a Vegas gig, head on over to the Roll Call thread and let us know!

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/205047-mygnr-forum-north-american-american-tour-2014-roll-call/

Just pull out This I Love or a solo, and do a new song. There, everyone's happy.

@Groghan:

I'm sorry the use of the word chicken has consumed you. Good thing I didn't say "chickenshit," I might've been lectured for several paragraphs.

Let's be very clear here: all the nu-Guns players are just employees. Right? Right. Whereas, Slash and Duff were partners with Axl for the majority of their time in the band. See the difference? They didn't have the balls to challenge Axl. Plain and simple. Oh sure, they've portrayed it like they were the innocent little victims. They weren't. And if Slash really loved GnR, he should've fought for it, not acquiesced to Axl's shenanigans all the time.

Neither do the members of Axl's touring nostalgia act.

And yes, in the beginning Slash and Duff were partners with Axl. They were just a rock band trying to make it big. It wasn't until the early 90's where Axl became power-hungry and began to do things on his terms instead of the bands. He was always late, he was a bitch on stage (at times), he was the one who caused riots, he was the one that put My World on the Illusions without the bands authorization. Don't try to act like the old band is even close to the current band. Who helped Axl write iconic songs like Welcome To The Jungle and Sweet Child? Slash and Duff. Those song's are still blared through arena's and radio stations across the globe. What iconic rock songs has DJ wrote with Axl? How about Ron? Stinson? Fortus?

And Slash and Duff may have played the blame game on Axl in the past, but don't act blind to Axl's constant "everybody's out to get me," attitude. Axl's the one playing the innocent victim, not them. They were at the Hall of Fame, Duff has played with Axl numerous times. Wasn't it Axl who said that Slash caused him to get writers block? Hell, it could rain tomorrow and Axl will probably blame that on Slash. The guy hates him, and never explains why. He just goes on this tirades about nonsensical bullshit which only he can decipher.

Disappointing.

Addiction comes in many forms. Power and control are as addictive as any drug. So who is the real junkie in this equation?

You must have missed Celebrity Rehab, Slash's book, and Duff's book. While Axl continues to be an artist of the truest form, those sell-outs make you pay to hear stories about the old days back when they were in a cool rock n roll band. Truth is the truth hurts, don't you agree?

And you can't deny that you would read Axl's autobiography. I'm beginning to think wither Volcano thinks being a Axl worshipper will get him closer to the band, he's a cupcake, or he's Jarmo.

The Rio show and Bridge School shows were pure punk rock defiance. Fuck you and your practice.

http://youtu.be/20ccfjD4ZyQ

Yeah, this is so Rock N' Roll!

Axl doesn't want to do it. The sooner people accept that, the happier they will be. I know it stings for some people to see Axl continue using the name, but it's time to get over that too.

I don't give two shits about Axl using the name. I just wish he DID SOMETHING WITH IT besides tour as a nostalgia act in the same vain as Motley Crue, Poison, and Def Leppard. If he released more than ONE ALBUM in 2 decades, I guarantee you, there wouldn't be as much people bitching about New GN'R and wanting a reunion. But the fact that Chinese Democracy because a blip on the radar, plus Axl's deteriorating vocals and lack on professionalism, it's just adding more fuel to the fire. No to mention him shunning the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Whatever he's been doing since Rock N' Rio 2011 has just been disappointment after disappointment, mixed with club shows and Axl's constant mishaps along the way. Maybe it he tried to move this band into a new direction, or hell he seemingly had any direction, than things will be different. The fact is we have a band who's playing song only ONE member had anything to do with. Jungle, PC, NR, YCBM, Patience, ISE, Brownstone, all those songs were made famous 2, 3 decades ago. And that's the songs these tours are built on and what people pay to see. Not new music, many of the fans don't give a flying fuck who DJ Ashba or Tommy Stinson is. They just want to see Axl Rose.

If Axl Rose wasn't fronting a new band, but was touring with the old band but playing the hits, all the negativity would go away. The fact is Axl is doing a nostalgia tour with a new band, which fuels people into wanting the old band back. If Axl releasing new music with the new band, did media interviews, promoted his own fuckin' band, than a lot of the negativity would go away. Will there be people who want the old band back, absolutely, who doesn't? It's just if Axl seemingly cared about his own band, than people would realize that it's next to impossible for it to happen. He has a new band and he's dead-set in making them a big band with new music. But, he's not. Which makes people, like me, question his decision to keep the name. Did he do it to move on and releasing new music with a new band, this proving that he doesn't need Slash to be successful. OR, did he do it for money. Many people see this band performing the old hits, and immediately jump the conclusion that he's doing this all for the extra cash. Than, people think "why don't he just play with the old band."

What I think tough, is that he doesn't want to admit he was wrong and he doesn't want to admit defeat. That's why he doesn't want to work with Slash again.

He doesn't want to admit that he was wrong and admit that the other guys were just as important. That's all.

BOOM.

Topic over.

You never know, we were told 3 new songs would be played on the upcoming tour. This might be a candidate.

For all we know, the three new songs could be Like A Rolling Stone, Round and Round, and Hells Bells.

New music.

Axl doesn't have to do anything to bury the old band. The old band has been gone for almost 20 years. Maybe it's time to, y'know, move on.

Tell that to Axl.

Not this guy:

What is that from? What songs he doin?

Perfect Crime, Indiana 1991.

Axl looks like he's about to explode.

Axl will prove once again he's the best at what he does and that's put on the best rock show on earth.

I think you mean Bruce Springsteen.

DJ must really believe we're a bunch of idiots. It's insulting. Shut the fuck up already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dzkbyzAA6g

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

I really hate how the author tries to make a point in that article of lumping GN'R in with hair metal (something so many people unfamiliar with the group and its history do), by quoting Tom Petty's comments about hair metal and directly implying that GN'R was part of that scene. They weren't. I don't need to tell all of you guys that this is the case -- but GN'R was the first step toward wiping away the hair metal trend, by bringing back bluesy hard rock that felt legitimate and lived-in and lacking the empty "sex drugs and partying" anthem of hair metal. It just kind of irritates me to a great degree when I see people -- especially critics writing journalistic articles like this -- trying to discredit GN'R by pushing them into a category where they don't belong.

Anything Goes is the closest they ever got to "hair metal" and even that song has a lot of pathos and grime to it that you won't find in a song like "Girls Girls Girls" by Motley Crue. I mean the way Axl sings about sex in that song...I don't think it's a very good song personally, but man, you can read into it a lot, just the way he sings about having sex, there's like a fear and a disgust in the delivery of those lyrics that makes it at least compelling, and that alone renders it better than most hair metal crap. It encapsulates a lot of Axl Rose's energy back then, an angry young kid barking at the world that's 'out ta get him' but deep inside he's just kind of vulnerable and afraid. Maybe that sounds pretentious but I really do think that's a big appeal of Appetite, there's a depth to the overall record and it's just kind of perfect, isn't it.

I don't think GN'R had much to do with the end of hair metal. I mean, were they more grittier and harder the other band, yes. But, their image and sound wasn't much different than the other bands. Their first song to get number 1 on the Billboard charts was the soft-rocking Sweet Child O' Mine. Than, the hit song off of Lies was Patience, an acoustic ballad. Axl outfits weren't much different from all the other singers, leather jackets and leather pants. He even had his hair teased up in the beginning.

And, even after Appetite came out, Hair Metal was still in full swing. You had Skid Row with I Remember You being a big hit for them. Bon Jovi released New Jersey, with included Bad Medicine. Winger's first album came out in 1998 and it went Platinum. Warrant released Cherry Pie in 1990 and it was a huge hit for them, making the top ten. Motley Crue came out with Dr. Feelgood, which was their most successful album during the 1980's, spawning 5 hit singles. The image and sound of Hair Metal didn't really go anywhere until Nirvana came out, than everything changed.

No offense but I think if you really believe all that, you don't perceive Guns N' Roses and their history the same way that I do. And nothing about "SCOM" or "Patience" are remotely hair-metal.

GN'R most certainly helped end hair metal. It brought in an era of stadium rock. Watch the Use Your Illusion tour footage. "I Remember You" wasn't even really hair metal, it was an anthemic tune. Bon Jovi ditched their excessively glammed-up image. Hair metal was pretty much done by the early '90s, and it wasn't Nirvana singularly who killed it off. It was a gradual, cultural shift. And GN'R and their move toward stadium rock was a part of that, yes. I'm not saying they alone killed off hair metal but you get what I mean.

Bon Jovi really didn't ditch their glammed-up image until Keep The Faith. Watch the video for I'll Be There For You, Jon has he's teased up hair and make-up on, and it was a big hit for them in 1989. I didn't say that SCOM and Patience were hair metal, I'm just saying that they were big hits for them and they weren't much different from other bands at the time. I Remember You (the song and video) was as hair-metal as you can get. I get what your saying, I do. I just think that GN'R didn't have much to do with the end of Hair Metal as Nirvana did.

After Nevermind was a huge hit, many, many bands changed their look and sound. Motley Crue came out with the heaviest album in 1994, Warrant released Dog Eat Dog, their heaviest album. KISS went full-on grunge for a bit, Bon Jovi ditched the hair-metal look and sound for both KTF and These Days. Hell, you had Axl Rose wearing flannel on stage afterwards. Nirvana was pretty much a cultural change.

I really hate how the author tries to make a point in that article of lumping GN'R in with hair metal (something so many people unfamiliar with the group and its history do), by quoting Tom Petty's comments about hair metal and directly implying that GN'R was part of that scene. They weren't. I don't need to tell all of you guys that this is the case -- but GN'R was the first step toward wiping away the hair metal trend, by bringing back bluesy hard rock that felt legitimate and lived-in and lacking the empty "sex drugs and partying" anthem of hair metal. It just kind of irritates me to a great degree when I see people -- especially critics writing journalistic articles like this -- trying to discredit GN'R by pushing them into a category where they don't belong.

Anything Goes is the closest they ever got to "hair metal" and even that song has a lot of pathos and grime to it that you won't find in a song like "Girls Girls Girls" by Motley Crue. I mean the way Axl sings about sex in that song...I don't think it's a very good song personally, but man, you can read into it a lot, just the way he sings about having sex, there's like a fear and a disgust in the delivery of those lyrics that makes it at least compelling, and that alone renders it better than most hair metal crap. It encapsulates a lot of Axl Rose's energy back then, an angry young kid barking at the world that's 'out ta get him' but deep inside he's just kind of vulnerable and afraid. Maybe that sounds pretentious but I really do think that's a big appeal of Appetite, there's a depth to the overall record and it's just kind of perfect, isn't it.

I don't think GN'R had much to do with the end of hair metal. I mean, were they more grittier and harder the other band, yes. But, their image and sound wasn't much different than the other bands. Their first song to get number 1 on the Billboard charts was the soft-rocking Sweet Child O' Mine. Than, the hit song off of Lies was Patience, an acoustic ballad. Axl outfits weren't much different from all the other singers, leather jackets and leather pants. He even had his hair teased up in the beginning.

And, even after Appetite came out, Hair Metal was still in full swing. You had Skid Row with I Remember You being a big hit for them. Bon Jovi released New Jersey, with included Bad Medicine. Winger's first album came out in 1998 and it went Platinum. Warrant released Cherry Pie in 1990 and it was a huge hit for them, making the top ten. Motley Crue came out with Dr. Feelgood, which was their most successful album during the 1980's, spawning 5 hit singles. The image and sound of Hair Metal didn't really go anywhere until Nirvana came out, than everything changed.

Why is this guy is Guns N' Roses?