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8 minutes ago, Ninjapie24 said:

A Jungle reprise feels weird but also pretty cool. When I think of long set lists and amazing shows my mind always goes to the last Forum show of ‘91 but I think I’ll give this one a shot too

Yeah it's too bad all the videos I've seen are like 80's camcorder quality.

The '91 shows are so different from '92... I wish we had an official release for each year of UYI. Take my fucking money it's right here!

15 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

Interesting closing the set with jungle. Im trying to see what the setlist was for that show.

They played it twice!

Setlist:

Welcome to the Jungle

Perfect Crime

Mr. Brownstone

Live and Let Die

Dust N' Bones

Bad Obsession

Double Talkin' Jive

Civil War

Patience (with I Was Only Joking Intro)

My Michelle

Don't Cry

14 Years

November Rain

Matt Sorum Drum Solo

Slash Guitar Solo / Love Theme From The Godfather

Rocket Queen

Pretty Tied Up

You're Crazy (with Sebastian Bach)

Knockin' on Heaven's Door ( w/ Only Women Bleed)

Encore 1:

Sweet Child O' Mine (With Bad Time intro)

Estranged

Encore 2:

You Ain't the First

Used to Love Her

Yesterdays

Paradise City

Encore 3:

Welcome to the Jungle

There used to be a video of the closing Jungle and it was smoking! Axl was definitely on that night. 

7 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

91 and 93 because of the rants, izzy doing dust n bones and 14 years before he left, and there was no real setlist. The band just did whatever songs on stage. The bands plane getting drug checked in south america in 93

Closing '91 Toronto with Welcome To Jungle for the third encore... 

I think that would be my show to see if I could go back in time. 

Okay it is official... the litho... I think it's cool! Nice colour palette.

Nebraska's on the other hand... 

Classic GNR in 2006 would have been so potent and musically relevant... Slash was still smoking, Axl still showed skin. 

Could have skipped Libertad and CD and just went for UYIII.... ahhh but whatever!

91, 2006, 2016!

Did they slow down WTTJ a bit?

I just watched a video of it from this show... seems like it was really grooving; maybe I’m imagining it?

Jungle is always better when those verse rhythms have space to breathe.

4 hours ago, Sosso said:

Melissa will probably be the first member of the current line-up to leave the band, due to the lack of new material. 

She’ll put out a song with Izzy! 

18 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

well... 

to all those opposed...

So Fine’s solo is awesome! I have no idea what Duff says, though. Stona’man, oncesizefan justabeeman stands on his ownnn, bookeyesburn, story takes a turn, leaves a broken man!!!

Think About You would be really cool... and Reckless Life.

If Axl did the acoustic for Dead Horse and they did that little ending jam... how cool would that be!

1 hour ago, Sydney Fan said:

This is a really good show, watching it now.

Yeah wow I never saw this show! Axl is super consistent and sounds pretty fantastic for modern Axl. Busting tons of moves and never out of breath. Crowd is great... didn’t seem like there were any flow killing CD deep cuts...YCBM is raspy... band seems to be vibing (that Better intro thing is cool for that, even if I don’t like that actual song haha)... its the whole package.

Seems to standout compared to the NITL shows I’ve seen!

I remember Slash saying he didn’t like the acoustic set during the 93 leg of UYI because it killed the energy.

But then they did it in VR during the Libertad tour so who knows.

22 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said:

And sure Axl can sing Pretty tied up..  but only if he wears assless chaps while doing so. 

Have them illuminated on the stage like MJ's Billie Jean stuff.

Slowly unpacks the chaps to roaring applause...

You know, they played for an hour and a half at that show... that's really not that bad... I get that it ended abruptly, but how stoked would you be to see a volatile '91 GNR for 90 minutes!

Slash's mini-solo at 4:20 is sloppy Slash at his best! That's that Jimmy Page... always on the brink of falling off the rails intensity... don't really see that style of him anymore.

"fuck yeah St. Louis, this is happenin'." So badass!

3 hours ago, soon said:

I like your take - something about food and sex!!   

You might very well be right about the booklet. The lyric sites usually mention both phrases, with one in brackets. If I had to guess the lyrics were written as "cool and stressing" but you know Axl, always cracking jokes..

See I always thought it was supposed to be jizz... given the theme... and the way he says it.

Just me? Anyone else?

15 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

ISE is not just played but also the opener, so I doubt anyone would give a shit about this song. Playing Get In The Ring would be way more controversial

I feel like Get In The Ring would have an "old man yells at cloud" vibe nowadays. Bob Who? What magazine?
 

The music of that song still kicks ass, though. It would have been cool live at the time! All of them sharing vocals... and Slash giving that sendoff. That song works if you sell it as a total toss-off fun rock song.... it's such an easy song to trash. Sure it gets weird with the cackling laughter and shit, but every time I read critiques of it I roll my eyes... "... an attack on journalists." Aight, let's simmer down....

Coma has some cool moments but Locomotive just cruises.

I just f’ing love Slash’s escalating solos that click neatly right back into the verse rhythm... it just keeps building and cruising... and then a great outro! Axl is great and didn’t go too crazy with sound effects or monologues... so fun. Even the piano is really well suited... a common knock on UYI songs.

Coma’s blissed out interlude and raspy outro are great, but the riff is pretty pummelling to listen to... and the defibrillator etc.

13 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

As evidence that Guns can still write good songs again without Izzy: 1991 songs!

I actually broadly agree that Slash and Rose might be able to do something good but it'll lack what Izzy brought to the table which was something more concise and rock n' roll. 

I think there’s something to be said for Izzy just having his guitar and being in the room, you know. Just jamming chords and being the creative kindling. He’s just got that foundational musicality. 

Slash is kind of pummeling as a writer, riff centric... 

Axl as a writer seems kind of tentative... without co-writers. Perfectionism that lends itself to opus writing.

And Duff... I love Duff.

1 minute ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Sorry I can't it was on Youtube for like 8 years and now it's gone because some fuckhead is removing all kinds of GNR videos from Youtube

Yeah I figured... thanks anyway!

It’s the content hoarder incel “fans” right... if their houses are as I picture them, hopefully they get crushed by an avalanche of old newspapers when they go to empty their piss bottles.

I’d even take Anything Goes before anything on CD.

People always trash it... but especially in the context of AFD as a continuous album.... it’s a fun, let their hair down goofy romp before they blow it out again for RQ.

Got the talk box and the guiro scraping in there... like they just found a chest full of oddball musical shit... and they rock out!

Just now, PatrickS77 said:

They have no problems shutting out Steven. I'd rather they shut out Dizzy. He had a good ride.

Haha... I mean, you’re not wrong! Less is likely always more with this band. 

But there’s lower hanging fruit is what I’m saying .

6 hours ago, MooseMan said:

 It's not like Axl needed Izzy for Sweet Child or November Rain. So this idea that they can't do shit without him, as you propose, is daft. I'm not diminishing his importance to the band, but he's not and never was the main songwriter.

Izzy’s chord progression in SCOM is huge! 

He’s not overrated on this forum, he’s properly recognized.

That doesn’t mean Axl, Slash and Duff couldn’t write compelling songs together... also doesn’t mean they wouldn’t almost always be demonstrably better with Izzy. AFD with Slash doing rhythm and lead would be considerably, markedly worse, and I say that as a Slash worshipper. 

The album tracks with Izzy aged the best and they’d be the best kind of music for the band to pursue considering their age. I’d still want them to take a crack at a new album without him if they have to, but Izzy is always down to write songs —it’d be pride and greed likely as the cause for excluding him.

On 10/5/2019 at 2:20 PM, StrangerInThisTown said:

Axl refuses to play it because it's about Slash obviously!

I thought CD was a concept album about Slash. 

Honestly, expensive merch doesn’t bug me much. I look at it like the streaming paradigm shift has made music so much cheaper and more accessible for the consumer that if they wanna milk the merch cow...

Doesn't mean candles and toy trucks don’t dilute your brand; that they don’t make you look like everything you were opposed on the come up, when you were hungry and dangerous and the best thing on the block. But the prices I can live with!  

I think Dizzy is fine! You can’t shut him out at this point! That’d be stone cold. 

And im not surprised Slash’s CD stuff is uninspired... it’s like doing covers only the songs don’t speak to you. At least with covers they’re usually foundational to who you became as a musician on some level. That’s why they need to co-write new shit! ASAP!

2 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

I know right? Makes no sense

Can you link this version by any chance? Never heard it!

On 10/5/2019 at 10:56 AM, UsedYourIllusion said:

If it would have been a proper double album, cut down to 14ish songs, man it could really rank high up there. I just think the songs should have been toured and tested before recording, songs like Don't Cry, Back Off Bitch, sound fantastic. I attribute this to them being played during the Appetite days. Songs like Dust N' Bones, DTJ, Yesterday's, Perfect Crime, Bad Obsession could have been so much better (and I actually love all those songs on the records) I just think the live versions are so much better and have such a different vibe that it seems like a mistep to not have started the tour sooner and try more of the songs out before recording started 

That’s a good point! AFD was “market tested” live and some of those songs hashed and rehashed for like almost one-two years on the stage? And it shows.

Pretty Tied Up is so much better than on record. It’s got Michael Jackson level vocal layering haha... and those reverbs drums. If they did it in one take live in studio it would have crushed.