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And also, just wanna add, I'm not emailing him...but I just think it's condescending and unnecessary to advise these other guys on how they shouldn't, or how it's not smart to give the email address out. We're all mature enough to make our own decisions.

Why do you think everybody here is is levelled enough not to abuse an email to band members in GN'R? That really puzzles me. Not everybody here is 25 and as mature as you .

And do you expand your view on never advising anyone about anything ever to the realm beyond Internet, as well?

For the most part...I mean, some situations require guidance from an experienced person. Like if I was an experienced drug user, and someone who's never even had a beer was about to shoot up a bunch of coke, I might step in and say that's probably not a great idea. But in more trivial things, like this, I like to leave it up to people to figure things out on their own. That's how it's always been for me. We all know right from wrong. I know not everyone is raised the same and different people have different values, etc. but we're all very similar. That's kind of what I meant with this email thing...I trust that most people on this board know better than to go "OH WOW! I got Fortus' email! I'm gonna email him every day now asking him about the next album, ask him 20 questions about what it's like to work with Axl, ask him if he 'crinkles or folds' his toilet paper when wiping his ass'.

wait is this a joke/cupcake thread...? cause I'm just waiting for someone like volcano to come in here and say "this isn't $la$h we're talking about..Axl would never compromise his dignity like that!" I know some of you want to say that...and please don't...we don't need yet another axl/slash debate.

I would just wanna hear what it would sound like

Go listen to Breakdown. I think that's about as country as you will ever hear Axl.

You assume that everyone who reads this site is a well-mannered and level-headed individual. We have all sorts of postless lurkers, that crazy bitch who claimed to have a history with Axl and whatever...again, to get the address from his website, you have to look for it. Throwing it around in a thread like this isn't the best idea necessarily. I think the bulk of the people who see it will, as you suggest, take it as intended. There will be exceptions, though, that's all.

LOL Karen Mcneil? Or wait, was she on this site? the one who broke into Axl's house? Yeah, my post was not directed at people like that...we don't need any of those type's getting their email addresses, public or not.

And also, just wanna add, I'm not emailing him...but I just think it's condescending and unnecessary to advise these other guys on how they shouldn't, or how it's not smart to give the email address out. We're all mature enough to make our own decisions.

You don't need to play the role of 'ol' wise one' and tell me not to get wound up. Not sure where in my post you got the impression that I was all wound up. I said I don't wanna lower myself to this level of retarded bantering, and pointed out that what you were talking about, how you didn't like when someone came in the thread to just start an argument, was popcorntim, not me. I wouldn't call that being wound up. Maybe a little annoyed..

That would be sick to get the tabs for it. I know there's certain parts that he just plays too fast for me (like the intro and outro he does in Osaka) but overall I know I could play almost all of it. I might email him, but if a few people do, he'll probably realize that a lot of us want it, and eventually when he gets time, might put it up on his site.

Oh, and everyone who's only responses were that it's not a good idea to give out him email address, or to tell a bunch of people to email him...all I can say to that is how old are we again? I can't speak for others on this board but I'm 25, and don't really need your advice...not trying to be a dick, but honestly, opinions like those are better kept to yourseld...it comes across as a little condescending. After all his email is, like the OP said, on his official website, so hardly "giving it out." And to the other people who said it's not a good idea to get a lot of people to mailbomb him...if that's how you feel, don't email him. We're all aware the Fortus would probably prefer not to get 1000 emails from his fans asking about these tabs. And whether this whole board emailed him or not, we're old enough to decide for ourselves. Just my two cents. I get annoyed at people giving out advice like that...again, don't wanna sound like a dick...

Sparky,You are the weakest link.

That "insult" made sense 10 years ago

That wasn't an insult,it was an evaluation,wasn't worth my time,or outstanding,creative verbousity to insult.

Someone comes into a thread,not to participate or glean a bit of info from others that might just know a little more about the topic in question,just to gripe and argue.

I merely tried to simplify the logistics,and legalities involving "sampling".

You called someone "sparky", thinking it was a funny little jab, and are getting made fun of for it. Just deal with it, man.

And yes, I agree that popcorn came in this thread with the sole purpose of starting a fight with the OP. Don't believe me? Look at his first post here. I'd already posted once or twice. Once I saw the crap he was saying to the OP I felt like saying something. I didn't start shit. Please read the thread before you say crap like that.

I do things to amuse myself,I really am not concerned about popular appeal on an internet forum

I read the thread,I enjoy popcorn's posts and sense of humor.

oh wow, the "i dont care what anyone on here thinks" retort. Haven't heard that one before. I always find it amusing too when people say it like that, "on an internet forum", to make it sound more juvenile and trivial.

You accuse me of coming in here only to get off topic and bash someone, then you realize that I didn't and in fact popcorn did just what you were accusing me of doing, and instead of saying "oh you're right, sorry," your only remark is you enjoy his posts and sense of humor. I don't even like dignifying these posts with a response, as it just brings me down to this retarded level of banter, but it would be nice for someone to just apologize when they're wrong once in a while...but after all, this is "just an internet forum" so who cares?

Sparky,You are the weakest link.

That "insult" made sense 10 years ago

That wasn't an insult,it was an evaluation,wasn't worth my time,or outstanding,creative verbousity to insult.

Someone comes into a thread,not to participate or glean a bit of info from others that might just know a little more about the topic in question,just to gripe and argue.

I merely tried to simplify the logistics,and legalities involving "sampling".

You called someone "sparky", thinking it was a funny little jab, and are getting made fun of for it. Just deal with it, man.

And yes, I agree that popcorn came in this thread with the sole purpose of starting a fight with the OP. Don't believe me? Look at his first post here. I'd already posted once or twice. Once I saw the crap he was saying to the OP I felt like saying something. I didn't start shit. Please read the thread before you say crap like that.

when is this going to be fixed? It's very stupid....you will not get nearly as many new members now...but I'm sure you (eric) are aware of that.

No, I was already posting in this thread before I responded to your insult-laden post to pi2loc. And if we're talking about unneeded observations, why don't you delete every post you made in this thread, as none of them were "needed observations," just you accusing the OP of having malicious motives for creating the thread, and insulting him, and then me, for defending him. And how are you so certain that he created this thread as a way to get attention? Or dig up dirt or something. You're fixated on accusing everyone who posts here, that isn't praising the new band or Axl, of doing so for malicious/trolling purposes, and they must be a $la$h fanboy. I don't think anyone else here interpreted this thread as the OP trying to instigate a war, but of course you did.

I'm sorry that you can't handle the fact that this thread is redundant. Wow though, breaking my post into 7 mini quotes... all while denying any fixation on me. Hahaha irony ftw.

Furthermore I have no idea why you went off on some bizarre nonsensical tangent about proving slash is alive. When I said Slash is gone forever, I meant he's gone from Guns n Roses forever. I think that was quite obvious. How you missed that I'll never know, but you seem to be missing a lot of things so I think there's a pattern there for sure. It's interesting to see you give pi2loc a free pass for being a shit-talking, trolling dick, but you chastise me for pointing out he made a redundant thread about an ancient issue that's already been discussed.

Not sure if it's just stupidity or you're just a consummate cupcake. I'm guessing both. But hey, thanks for the 7 mini quote individualized responses. I guess my post really moved you. Hahaha. Who's the angry 9 year old? Lmao @ the "real gnr" reference. If you don't like the current iteration of Guns n Roses, THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE? Oh right, so you can bitch, complain, and make snarky comments about Axl. I mean, really? It's just pathetic. You're like BBA's retarded cousin.

Hey, it took me a good 20 minutes to break your post down into those 6 or 7 quotes. I'm sorry I'm not as internet savvy as you. But it seemed necessary when there were multiple things I wanted to respond to, and I wanted to avoid any confusion.

So any time someone responds to you, they're fixated with you? That seems a little...pretentious..? And regarding the Slash thing; maybe you should re-read what I said. I also included that you may have meant Slash being gone from GNR. I like this part the most.

It's interesting to see you give pi2loc a free pass for being a shit-talking, trolling dick, but you chastise me for pointing out he made a redundant thread

That's hilarious. You honestly believe that his posts are him being a "shit talking and trolling dick" and you are just pointing something out. LOL. You talk more shit on here than anyone I've ever seen.

And, of course, without fail, you accuse another person (me) of being a cupcake. I didn't read the rest of your post. I could see it was just further demonstrating my point about you being angry and immature, resorting to personal insults when you get too frustrated to have a rational argument.

Who's stupid? Haha, who? *cough* you are *cough*

...wow...are you serious? I don't even know what to say about that.

lmao hey thanks for your "contribution" to the thread! Truly an intellectual you are.

i contributed to the thread plenty: I provided a link to the ORIGINAL thread, which I dare say was more informative than this steaming pile of shit. I'm sorry that you're not smart enough to use google to search the forum. It's complicated, I know- with plus signs and quotes and such.

Also, pi2loc is a well known rabid butthurt slash fanboy,

Only to people like you. I don't think anyone else here thinks he's a fanboy/cupcake.

who is in complete denial that slash is gone forever.

gone forever? He's very much alive and well, and has put out many albums since leaving GNR. I'd list them all hear but I'll assume you know what they are. Now, if you're talking about him being gone from GNR forever, I don't think he is in denial that's the case...we all know Slash isn't in GNR.

Consequently, he has a sociopathic fixation for talking shit about Axl and the current era.

...No, I don't think so. He's seen the new band, I've heard him say that before, and likes them, just doesn't appreciate them like the real GNR, which is the same way that I feel, along with many others here. I don't think anyone here "talks shit"

He's also been critical of me and trolled me several times.

this is where you just sound like an angry 9 year old. But honestly, a lot of people here are critical of you. You bring it upon yourself. Look at your last post for a reference as to why this happens.

So fair's fair- i'm sorry you feel the need to make it your business. But yeah fuckin aye right I'm gonna call him out for purposely creating a redundant thread for the sole purpose of trolling Axl.

oh wow now he's not only trolling YOU, but also trolling AXL?

Now fuck off. You seem to be obsessed with me. It's getting old. Really. Go away.

Obsessed with you? Haha you'd like that wouldn't you? If I have any obsession, it's with calling out clowns like you who make it their personal mission to defend Axl/new gnr to the bloody end, even in situations that don't even need it, like this one. One GNR fan asks other GNR fans about an incident from the past, and you come out of the woodwork to tell him he's a cupcake/slash fanboy for bringing it up. I don't think you realize how many people here read your posts and just shake their head, wondering how someone can say the things you say. But, you've obviously spent a lot of time on this board, and it was permanently skewed your perception of things, so we all kind of just shake our heads and laugh...kind of like when your retarded cousin keeps hitting on the girl at the grocery store.

sailaway, first of all, "sparky"? Really? Just another reminder that only on the internet can children insult people that they would never in a million years say the same things to in person.

Second, i find it amusing that you intentionally spruce up your post to make yourself appear more articulate and intelligent. Your post was enlightening, and interesting, I will not deny that. But I'm still trying to figure out why it was directed at me? I used the words "I remember hearing" and "apparently", obviously showing that I don't know much about it. So why you would act like you're proving me wrong, or trying to tell me off or something, makes absolutely no sense at all. But again, I learned a little from what you said, so I guess there was some merit to your long and boring post.

The reason they don't play it live is that, apart from some forum nerds, nobody is interested in hearing it.

Unfortunately I also think that's the case. Personally, I thought it was very lame, and just never felt it, but after giving it 10 or so listens, I started to like a few bits and pieces of it, and that's where I am now. Still my least favorite song on the album.

I know it's old, I wanted to know what happened with this.

No, you just wanted attention because you get your jollies from trolling. You think you're slick though, that's the funny part.

Oh, and by the way: you can use google to search the forum. It's not that hard:

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=155237&st=0

only you would say something so stupid....

Why is it that when someone brings up anything even remotely negative about your lord and savior axl rose, you accuse them of trolling? Why don't you actually contribute to the thread by staying on topic. Not changing gears into cupcake hunting.

I remember hearing it was just the intros...and it was settled in court I guess...so apparently there was some truth.

#ChineseLINocracy starts now

shackLins Revenge.

Besides Rose, the only original member in the band,

yes! finally someone with enough brains to not include Dizzy in the "only original member" part. The world makes sense again.

You're Crazy

Wow, Axl sounds AWESOME!

Is that Artie Lange?

Where are you guys seeing Axl in that photo? I see Ron and Fortus I think...

took me about 2 seconds to realize that they mistook bbf for axl. and Im very not sober. whats your excuse?

Sailaway and Soul Monster need to explain to Tommy that he should stop wanting new songs, and just accept whatever he is given.

Have I ever said I don't want new songs? My feelings on the subject are identical to Tommy's: I am happy about the situation but would prefer new music.

Are you legally retarded?

I really need to add the smiley face for you, don't I?

No, I'd react the exact same way. What you need to do is to make jokes that doesn't risk polarizing this forum into "haters" and "nutters".

Did someone say that advise Tommy to be careful..? I think he' done pretty well thus far, without any help from his online fan base. I'm sure he appreciates you thinking of him though.

On topic: I have nothing to add. These interviews never tell us anything important.

Glad to hear that kind of response to songs like This I Love...I don't remember hearing that warm of a reception for newer songs at other shows...maybe people are finally warming up to them.

I can't figure out why these mods are so trigger happy, constantly moving threads around, deleting posts, etc. and yet ITW2012's threads stay here, when they really have nothing to do with GNR...Star Trek? Cloning Axl? wtf?

ITW... you make the dumbest fucking threads.

I second this notion. I laugh to myself and shake my head every time I see one. Kind of like when your kid says something dumb/funny.

Yeah that's true, what the fuck deej...you get the honor to be Slash's dinner guest and now you claim to not know him...

^ you've got some cool tunes on your page btw.

I cannot believe that songs that have been in the vault are still going to be reworked. By the time The General, Silkworms and Thyme come out they will feature 6 different guitarists and have 12 instrumental layers on top of eachother...

Personally I really, really want all fresh 2012 studio takes, using existing songs as a base for the album and new material mixed in with it

I'd rather have those songs released as is. Write new songs with the new guys, but keep the "old" songs how they are...I didn't like that aspect with some of the songs on chinese democracy....maybe that's axl's way of making the guys feel like they're a band...like letting bumblefoot do the solo at the end of catcher...like, he doesn't want to get them too involved, but he'll give them a few sections of a few songs to do their thing. I'd like to see the other 30 songs or however many there were that were left over from the CD recording process released how they are, without input from the new guys. Then write some new material with the new band.

If they just do the same thing with the next album that they did with chinese, I, and I'm sure many others, will not change their opinion that this isn't really a band.