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3 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

I cant see them doing another US run next year with the same setlist and inder nitl name. I think they have exhausted the US market to do another US tour and playing the same setlist. If they want to continue playing arenas and stadiums in the US they need new music, or a setlist revamp.

Not much they could revamp. Nobody except a few hardcore fans would give a fuck if they'd play Dead Horse instead of Yesterdays.

6 hours ago, Italian girl said:

jesus, this thread has turned into ....

Oh, come ooon! It's a Simpsons quote.

1 hour ago, ZoSoRose said:

That's not what it necessarily means. An "overdub" can be pretty much any track when multitracking. If he laid a rhythm track over drums and bass, that is an overdub

Yep. Pretty sure all guitars on the final versions are overdubs in that sense.

Oh man, not good either way.

Duff is worse than Hitler!

We can only hope that Slash puts his foot down at one point, like, no new music, no more shows.

12 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I love Myles.

 

 

Yeah, it's pretty obvious when he's outright lying. Better than that is Slash's response in one of his recent interviews where he said that he wasn't even going to say anything (about Izzy).

Yeah, Slash is way better with these questions. Plus, Duff being so dishonest and stupid doesn't go well with writing a book named "How to be a man" and the "Punk as fuck" stuff at all.  

2 minutes ago, RONIN said:

 

Exactly, stuff like that. Duff should just shut up.

14 minutes ago, zigzagbigbag said:

You’re right. Its annoying.

I strongly believe that all this „hate“ for individual band members wouldn’t be there if there finally would be some new music the fans could focus on. 

Agreed. It doesn't help though that Duff is making a total ass of himself recently.

4 hours ago, megaguns1982 said:

I agree 100%, but that was all back in the days before the internet (excluding CD) I’m sure the band and management don’t want the first representation of new material to be a live recording spreading like wildfire over YouTube with axls weak live vocals.... any new music released will be polished studio versions imo

At this point, it would be best if they release a surprise single with a cool video before playing it live.

It's just what it is, with Axl's live vocals and all...you can't change the first impression and Guns are simply not that good live nowadays that they could really pull it off, I guess.

Imagine you never heard Slither or Shadow of your love before their live debut...

I can't recall seeing cassingles in Germany, ever. 

Saw the premiere on MTV as well. I loved it right away, it was like "THEY'RE BAAACK!"

1 hour ago, Rovim said:

So... you think they're scared? anxiety? I doubt it. I think a new Guns album is a big deal for Axl so it demands a lot of time and work put into it and they've been mostly busy with a gigantic tour plus Slash is on tour right now with Myles and The Conspirators, not to mention the additional NITL dates they've got lined up for this year and probably next year as well.

I don't think they really had a chance to properly go in the studio and focus just on recording. Perhaps that's the reality.

Also... yes, a lot has changed. Slash and Duff decided they were gonna play Chinese tunes live without Axl asking them to do so and Axl decided on his own to play Slither.

With all of the industrial talk and Steph ballads, Chinese Democracy mostly doesn't sound that different to what you can expect from a modern Guns album. It just mainly lacks Slash's riffs and solos and there are more modern influences there. (also Izzy's style of writing is missed) Nothing earth shattering except maybe Shackler's Revenge. When it comes to ballads, Slash has released much softer ones compared to what Axl has released on Chinese like Gotten for example.

And even when Chinese Democracy came out Slash had positive things to say about it. Recently he said how much he loves playing Chinese Democracy the song and he seems to be into it live as well (even 11 years ago when it came out as a single Slash said in an interview that he liked it) and said in interviews how Bucket is "fuckin' amazing" as a guitar player.

I think they are willing to compromise now in the best sense of the term. This is why I believe it's likely that they will find middle ground in the studio and they have a real chance to complete another Guns album together that will not disappoint.

Let's hope that it's gonna be this way...imagine this, they're having a blast in the studio and everything gets done really fast. Then the album comes out next year and becomes a huge success. Then, because of all of this, they start working on a follow up immediately. Slash is so busy and happy with Guns that he declares the end of his collaboration with Myles & the Conspirators and apologizes for their boring albums!
Ah, the possibilities!

That would be cool, but it's very unlikely. Seem like Axl wants to release everything under the GNR name.
Which is understandable, the same songs have a much better chance to get a positive reaction if Slash and Duff are on there, even if they'd play the exact same parts Finck or Bucket did. 
And he probably doesn't want to put something out NOW with Pitman, Finck etc. on there.

4 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

I think there's no issue of a rock band being "contemporary" and "reflecting of the times" today, as rock isn't hip and there are no particular "trends" in it - it's an "anything goes" situation and the new bands just play various combinations of past decades' rock. The good aspect of it is that it's liberating, as a rock band -GnR in this case- doesn't need to be up-to-date, musically speaking, and they can make the music they want.

That's true, no movements like grunge or  new metal or britpop in sight. Would be a good time for Guns to come out with a new album.

2 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I agree with this. I think if he wanted to be involved he would've already agreed to do a guest appearance or something. At this point I think he would only come if they offered him a lot of money.

I'm sure they don't think for a minute they would need Izzy. 

To me it feels like IF Izzy gets involved somehow he would only do it for the money.

And the others guys would only WANT him to be involved because it would help to sell their product.

I don't wanna feel like this about it but that's the vibe they are giving me, including Izzy.

Hope I'm wrong and that he will be there, for the right reasons.

It really ain't easy for GNR now. Are they trying to do a "dangerous" album next? Something with sleazy/ offensive lyrics to keep the "fuck you" attitude alive somehow?
Or are we getting songs about saving elephants and being nice to everyone?

In a way, they're fucked - what do they have to say? Must be hard for Axl to give it a direction at this point.

In the 80s: Axl

In the 90s: Slash

Chinese Era: Axl

Now: Err...hard to answer. I don't enjoy Slash's playing these days too much, it changed alot. Hate those wankish, super long solo sections and all Conspirators records since Apocalyptic Love. Axl seems to be a shell of his former self. Duff comes across as a real dork these days. Mh. I'd say Axl, I hope he leads Guns into making a great new record.

It's even funnier/ more sad if you look at their official video for the "misunderstood" song. Duff is really coming across as an uncool spineless dork lately. :/

On 2.6.2019 at 10:26 AM, Sydney Fan said:

I really wish converse would release those converse shoes with AXL on them. The band would make a killling from the merch 

Lol, maybe in the early 90s.

The pre chorus parts are probably the hardest to sing, a lot of words with no breathing time.

Because I'm interested to hear what they have to offer and what they have to say NOW as a reunited group. A relevant artistic statement, if you will.

Hearing something Axl wrote while he hated Slash and was dealing with stuff not relevant to him anymore would be kinda lame to me. An artist that lives in the past is not very exciting to listen to, imo.

New stuff with all new vocals, please. How lame it would be if they had to rely on former replacement's ideas and super old recorded vocals where Axl was in a completely different state of mind.

No true artist would do that.