Pele

43 minutes ago, cineater said:

In the off topic section, yeah that's me just typing it out.  Can't seem to get that involved in GNR topics.  I'm pretty good at babbling my way into non related. 

I don't remember you being over there.  Did you have another name or get that information second hand?  I visit your board once in a while.  We are kindred spirits in liking smaller boards.  You mind if I work on a fiction novel in your off topic section?

You know full well he wasn't over there.

That board was set up by the guy responsible for stalking, harassment and the removal of the Youtube videos.  You tried your best to support that place and keep it open - when normal fans avoided it.

1 hour ago, Jw224 said:

I guess he will just go onto any forum that will have him and do the same thing lol.

Yeah he's a nuisance

15 minutes ago, Stro said:

Axl obviously did more vocals after 1999-2000 as he was still adding overdubs and new vocals through 2006-2007. It seems pretty silly to think he really just did CD overdubs and Shackler's and nothing else during that period.

It does.  He clearly did more than Shacklers.

Post 99, he did TIL2, Shacklers, Scraped, Better, General, Going Down backing vocals and whatever Blood in the Water was supposed to be (probably a line from General or an unfinished idea).

Outside of Better, he shouldn't have bothered.....

21 hours ago, fabrph5 said:

releasing OMG again would be insulting and a sign of pure laziness.  I have it officially released on a cd from YEARS ago.  I would rather them do a cover song, then hear that mess again

He's got absolutely no problem insulting the fans, don't worry about that.

If people are genuinely prepared to hand over their hard earned money for a physical release of Silkworms, they why even try? 

7 hours ago, Free Bird said:

I don't know if Pele is ok with that.

I bet it doesn't.

5 hours ago, gavgnr said:

I think the releases will be determined by what Axl can sing live. I can’t see him having any issues performing Atlas, Perhaps or SOG. The General & OMG, not so much.

The releases will be determined by the songs Rose has competed vocals for.

So they will be Atlas, Perhaps, General and if they need more, OMG.

2 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

Who else is convinced that Rose has recorded vocals to at least 50 Songs in the past few years and will release them all soon?

He's gonna release Atlas and Perhaps and disappear,  and you'll still be telling everyone that your little prince has written all of these songs 

On 2/19/2022 at 5:40 PM, Bluefish18 said:

I'm glad Bucket left; gave him more time to put his own music out and tour.  As for DJ Ashba- I could walk into Union Square right now and hear a better guitar player. I saw him at the UCAP Terminal 5 gig , and it was one of the worst shows I have ever seen; I actually walked out half way through.  He sucks.

Exactly.  Regardless of Rose apologizing or not - he was never gonna write/record he songs that was gonna make the band a relative entity.

He is still tinkering with the same batch of songs from 25 years ago.  Still re-recording them.

Buckethead has released about 2000 songs since then.  I'm not even a fan, but I'd say every last one of them is probably better than Silkworms.

9 hours ago, GoForJMark said:

It's not even funny anymore, I started to feel genuinely sorry for the guy. 

I mean there's still a human being behind that keyboard right? 

Do't feel sorry for me.  You believe in songs that are as real as Father Christmas.

14 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

That obsessive behavior combined with your cognitive inability to accept that songs can exist even if you haven't heard them, would have worried me if I cared for you. 

Of course you care.  I've been saying Rose has no completed songs outside Atlas, Perhaps and The General.  You're the one this has upset the most.

1 hour ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

I don’t believe “Nothing” will ever be a full fledged Guns release. It seems like it was just Axl fucking around on a studio track, the whole song is pretty much just a loop. It’s like these “insiders” take any song titles they possibly know have Axl vocals, and throw it on the list because they think it makes sense. I don’t buy it for a second. Slash himself said they’re going to be doing a few songs here or there, and maybe then release them all as an album- and not this year, iirc.

I don't either.  

And sadly, that's probably one of his most advanced efforts.

At least it has the outline of a vocal melody.

44 minutes ago, Gackt said:

Which just lends to the theory that Axl was confused about the track being referenced; it logically makes no sense to go from Hardschool, then to Jackie Chan, just to go back to Hard Skool when the song is nearly unchanged.

Makes no sense to me either - but either way, Rose said there was a song being worked on called Jackie Chan.

Why that guy feels the list should be deemed false because it contained "JChan" is beyond me, when Jackie Chan exists, along with Perhaps/Tonto/Nothing etc.

56 minutes ago, GoForJMark said:

 

and where has that taken you so far? 

to the point where I haven't been proven wrong, and everyone is gonna see I;m right when they release Atlas/Perhaps and not mention a single other song.

3 hours ago, Jw224 said:

He should really just make that his signature. Then he can start posting about other things. 

Or the singer who has pretended he's got a trilogy of albums for the last 20 years could release one song we haven't heard - thus rendering everything I've said a lie.

Anyone actually think he'll do it (apart from that guy who said he might in the next 10 years)?

30 minutes ago, Gackt said:

I'll repeat what I said for you; there isn't evidence that Jackie Chan and Hard Skool are the same song, it's only been implied for years since JC's been associated with the Checkmate clip.  It isn't shocking that some song titles can float in hoarder's circles, but there isn't anything to support that list's legitimacy.

What did Rose say about the song in the 08 chats on this forum?

There is plenty supporting (not proving) the lists legitimacy

• It predates Going Down leak
• Nothing and Perhaps were never ever mentioned by anyone until the Village Leaks
• The 2006 leak proved there were alternate versions of TIL and Better
• The locker leak had a recording of Knockin on Heavens Door (which unbelievably looks like it was considered for inclusion)

Whoever wrote the list seemed to know what was going on.

6 minutes ago, Gackt said:

The only variable I see here is if the song called Jackie Chan and Hard Skool aren't actually the same song, and the name was falsely attributed to the Checkmate leak.  The source isn't trustworthy, since they're notorious for lacing bullshit with the truth.

What on earth are you going on about?  Either way, Rose said it was called Jackie Chan.  Even if he misunderstood the question, or the answer was mis-nterpreted, he said he had a song called Jackie Chan.

Regardless of whoever you think the source is, the writer of the list named Perhaps, Nothing, TIL2 etc years before anyone had heard of them.  

How would someone know Perhaps, Nothing, TIL 2, Heaven's Door remake etc and not know HardSchool?  It's more likely Rose was referring to HardSkool as Jackie Chan, like he told us he was.

What's your alternative?  Someone simply guessed there were songs called Perhaps and Nothing, and all the other stuff on the list that was later confirmed true.?

38 minutes ago, GoForJMark said:

Rose must've hurt you so badly at some point in your life. Whatever it is you're going through, I hope you get help. Ranting on a forum, saying the same stuff over and over isn't the answer man. Seriously, troll or not, see a professional.

You're hurting more than me.

All I'm doing is pointing out he has no songs.

You are defending your prince at every opportunity, praying he's gonna prove me wrong by pulling a new song out of the bag.

You're gonna be absolutely crushed when they do exactly what I've been telling everyone - then disappear.

Just now, smokingarthur said:

At this rate, many of us aren’t going to live long enough for GNR to release the rest of the tracks from the locker. 

They don't exist.  You've heard what they have.  He's unlikely to write anything else.

1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

Getting panicky, I see 

Nope, getting ready to laugh when they release Atlas/Perhaps and just quietly stop mentioning any more 'new' songs, while you're checking the news everyday desperately hoping the next release is something different.

My whole point is Rose is incredibly sparse and has likely not got a completed song outside of Atlas/Perhaps/General.

He hasn't released anything we haven't already heard since 08.

This guy thinks one new song within a 23 year window gives him some sort of victory?

18 hours ago, Lies They Tell said:

Yes, but hopefully we don't have to wait that long. 

Shows how utterly pathetic this singer is, and how completely low your expectations are , that you insisted on 10 YEARS for the singer to prove he sung on something else.

10 years, after the 13 years since the release of his last record of course - so essentially he's getting 23 years to release ONE song and you think you 'win'?

Get out of here with that 

Any normal bet would be "I think he's done more than you say.  Slash has said they are coming.  I bet there are a few 'new' songs by this time next year."

Not TEN YEARS for one song.  How dare you even attempt to claim victory if a singer churns out one song in a decade (after 13 years of silence anyway)

6 hours ago, Gackt said:

I think any "list" that includes the title Jackie Chan, Checkmate, etc. should be immediately discredited as fake after the Village leak showed us it was always referred to as at least Hardschool.  Doesn't help either that the information only has one source that can confirm its authenticity, and it's someone with a negative reputation.

My safest bet for the next set of singles is an Atlas/OMG split single.

Read the post properly.

The list was circulated way before the Village Leaks, and MSL's 2006 studio session leaks.

It contained TIL2, Better2, Perhaps, Nothing etc before anyone knew these existed.  It contained 'Heavens' and years later we discover they'd recorded a new version of Heavens Door.

Whoever wrote the list clearly has info.

HarsSkool was called Jackie Chan by Rose himself in the chat, so unsure why you'd think it was fake?

18 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said:

What are you talking about? Who said that I want to wait ten years for these songs? I believe that a big portion of these songs will be released within the next ten years.

But if you ask me what I want, I want them to be released tomorrow.

I mean for the bet.

That was your terms for the bet.

If Rose released a new song in TEN YEARS you 'win'.

1 hour ago, Lies They Tell said:

Oh, I will remember this bet ten years from now, although we probably don't need to wait that long. But if you're right, you will get your money.

We don't need to go over the terms of our bet again. We already did that when we made the bet in that other thread.

I win if they release a song with full vocals by Axl, other than Atlas, Perhaps or The General. Covers remixes and other weird Blood in the Water type stuff doesn't count. We're talking about a proper song with a chorus and verses etc... I know the deal, you know the deal, we don't need to go over this again.

Time will tell, who wins the bet.

And you seriously want a whole TEN YEARS for one of these songs to come to fruition?

12 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said:

We already made the bet and we agreed that the time frame would be 10 years. Are you saying that you're chickening out of our original bet?

It's unlikely either of us will remember this in ten years.

Also, you don't 'win' a bet for a singer singing a song in ten years.

I don't think the songs exist.  You do.  They are gonna release the songs.  They are gonna be exactly as I've been saying (Atlas/Perhaps/maybe General).  They won't include anything else.  There will be no full album of new material.

Can't be clearer than that.

38 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Catcher, Perhaps and JChan have a question mark, too.

If you want to use this list to support your theory, you can't have double standards.

I don't think the list is an absolute blueprint.  It's littered with abbreviations.

I think given the below it's fairly obvious that V means vocals.

I think 'V' being present on nearly all new songs that we never heard vocals on (Tonto, Soulmonster, Cuban Slies, Monstrosity) and absent on the songs we know 100% had vocals (Atlas, Perhaps, Silkworms, Goin Down) suggests it means Vocals need to be done.

If you don't believe that, and think Tonto, SOulmoster, Cuban Skies and Monstrosity actually has completed vox, then that's on you.

The question mark is likely the email sender asking the question.

53 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

The problem with it (which you still don't seem to get after all this time of repeating the same argument) is that your premise is nonsensical; it's merely based on the fallacy that what we haven't heard doesn't exist.

 

It's not.

I was at first.  I have always doubted these songs were finished but hoped I was wrong.

As time has gone on, it's getting more and more obvious.

All other things aside, releasing 2 of the remaining 4 songs we've heard with vocals last year was a big indicator to anyone.

If they release the remaining 2, it's even more obvious.

The great news is Slash has explicitly told us they are releasing the songs Axl had - so my premise/theory is irrelevant isn't it? 

We're gonna find out.