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1 hour ago, BadApples87 said:

https://q13fox.com/2020/02/13/rock-legend-duff-mckagan-crestfallen-over-state-of-downtown-seattle/

 

 

I can't see this page because I'm in the UK, would someone be able to copy/paste the text of the article please? 

EDIT: Ok I accessed & read it through Tor Browser but can't do a copy/paste for some reason.

Much as Buckheat is clearly one of the most talented persons to grace the GnR camp, I can well imagine that for someone like Tommy it would take a lot of patience to work with someone who insists on wearing a mask all the time and having a chicken coop in the studio. There's only so long he would tolerate that kind of oddball behaviour, become sick of pandering to it and eventually snap. It may not be classic rockstar egotism but in practice it's not very different to be making such bizarre demands. So if Tommy got sick of it and became assertive I can see that could then be characterised as bullying, even though he might have just been trying to get some discipline into a group of semi functioning musicians each with their own often unreasonable demands. 

I don't know though, it's not like I was there, it's all speculation for most of us. 

Thanks, an informative reply there dude 🙂

So The General's Chicken is presumably a rip off of The Colonel's KFC. (Colonel Sanders.) 

I think I recall seeing a vid of Tommy making 'angry faces' at Ashba, maybe that's when I started to like him, lol. 

Rio being first show of the season would explain Axl's shitness, though bad monitoring would not help this. Tbf he sounded pretty good in 91 there, despite it being a patchy year for him vocally with a lot of rough performances that he later said he was unprepared for but blamed Slash for making him tour before being ready. The mic goes completely dead during YCBN on one of those Rio 91 shows and only Izzy can be heard singing. It's interesting actually as you can sort of hear what it would have been like as an Izzy led song. 

Chicken? 

Ok so it's a Buckethead song, not Tommy, ha. 

Anyone see see that moment in the China Exchange interview where Axl mistakenly says "Bumblehead" instead of Bumblefoot (or Buckethead?)  

Now that was rad

On 8 December 2019 at 10:49 PM, AxlRoseCDII said:

Best show period was Bridge School in 2012- I cant provide video proof because of the people who got unofficial links banned on the forum, so you’ll just have to take my word on it.

I know it's been much discussed, but having tortured myself with a watch of this show recently I still really can't fathom why on the name of suffering fuck Axl went ahead with this show.

He must have known beforehand, and during, that he totally was not going to be able to pull it off. 

It's almost like someone has threatened him into performing, like he had absolutely no choice but to make a complete twat of himself. 

Is there any reliable backstory, or any clue on why on earth Axl went ahead with this shambles? 

Because I don't think it was just complacency.. he must have known. 

Just watched a fucking good performance of Crazy, from 2012. Seems to go against the usual consensus that the voice wasn't good after 2010, at least till 2016..

I've always thought Tommy was one of the more likeable members of the Nu GnR period and so watched the Eric Blair interview to get an idea of his character. He comes across really well, a humble and thoughtful dude. Here are some of my observations on the conversation: 

-He denies being a 'musical director' for GnR but says he played a role of keeping all 6 together, being 'the general'. So is the song of the same name a reference to that?

-He mentions the revolving door of guitarists they had and that some of them were not so easy to get along with. Who is he talking about? 

-He says Rock in Rio was an epic experience but that he and the band could barely hear anything in front of the immense crowd. Could this be a fair explanation for why some of Axl's Rio performances have been total shit? 

-He looked kinda drunk/high possibly on some opioid, scratching himself etc (not judging him for that, just observing) 

- He is very commending of Axl, describes him as highly talented and loyal. 

So, 'all things considered' I can see why Axl was drawn to Tommy and brought him into the band, I think he was the best person for the job during this time and would be interested in listening to some of his work outside GnR.

Any thoughts?

Obviously it was staged, it's a really funny episode though

The bit right at the end where the presenter pretends to get knocked out by that huge wooden frame thing is hilarious 😁

I also came across a rare-ish interview with Slash and Duff from the late 80s or early 90s where Slash is saying the usual "We're just a rock n roll band, we haven't murdered anybody but people are always saying we're bad boys" - then right on cue they both simultaneously chime in together to sing the chorus of the Charlie Brown / Peanuts song "Why's everybody always picking on me?" - it's a proper funny moment, made me do an actual lol but I can't find it again now, if anyone knows the interview I mean then link us up please 🙂

The GnRontour listing above says the show was recorded in audio only, so this video is probably not in the hands of traders, and only owned by a TV station is my guess. 

5 hours ago, jamillos said:

and 2002

They also played Think About You at Manchester (UK) in 2006,  it was the first song of Izzy's guest spot, I was surprised! 

It's interesting isn't it? I had no idea there were any other filmed 1987 shows of this quality.

The clip looks like it might have been taken from a longer programme shown on TV, so maybe some station has the full thing in its archive.. Someone must know something about it! 

People still putting OIAM in their Greatest Hits suggestions, lol. C'mon be realistic, even if you like it musically, we know it will never get a re-release. 

Yeah, and the Tom Petty spot was better too, maybe they practiced that though.. 

I must be one of the few who don't rate this as a particularly good performance.. He sounds too whiney and use of vibrato is overstated.. It's got nothing on say, his Salt of the Earth spot with the Stones. Steven Tyler's rendition of this song is far better. 

Still interesting to see though and ok granted it's an impromptu performance.

I don't think November Rain is a well constructed song, it's too long, doesn't have a catchy hook/chorus and Slash's 'solo' at the end is just the same 4 bars over and over. Also Axl's clean voice would have suited the intro better, as in Don't  Cry and Patience. Then build to the rasp. 

I really don't get how Adler wasn't sure if it was his drumming on Shadow Of Your Love. I mean if you're a professional drummer surely you'd be able to tell if it was you or not, even if the track had been remastered? 

It struck me recently that although I've been a big fan since 1989, I haven't actually spent much money which would've gone directly to the GnR brand. 

I inherited second hand cassettes of most of their albums, and bought a lot of second hand singles and rarities records. Now I just stream it. So the only new purchases I've ever made of their music are:

A cassette of Lies

A CD of Spaghetti Incident 

One UYI live VHS 

A handful of singles

Concert wise I've seen them twice. In 2017 my ticket was bought for me, and in 2006 I bought one from a tout last minute for something like £5. 

I bought a load of posters and t-shirts years ago but doubt much of the money went directly to GnR or if if the merch was legit. 

So basically, although I've consumed a massive amount of GnR stuff since 1989, the amount of money I've given them is very little - not intentionally, it's just the pattern of spending that's emerged. 

How about you? 

Yeah if anyone is to "blame" then it's Zutat for being negligent and slack with the unreleased material. Have the record company or management said anything to/about him, as far as we know?

On 21 November 2019 at 1:42 PM, action said:

not to mention the little sexual interlude near the end. 

Who else skipped that song when it would reach that part, fearing that mom would otherwise think I was watching porn again?

My friend put the cassette of AFD on the car stereo whilst his Dad was driving. Eventually he went went into a panic as he realised too late that Rocket Queen was about to play in front of his Dad with the 'naughty' bit in the middle, so had to just sit through it in embarrassed British silence..

On 22 November 2019 at 11:09 PM, DieselDaisy said:

Yet only three shows in the United Kingdom, all of them in the southern part of the country (none in Northern England or Scotland).

I came here to write exactly this. In all of 3 years they only came to London once, (for 2 nights), and they played Download. Is that it? Why didn't they play more UK shows?