Good, Fuck'n, Night.

42 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

 So, who here believes the UYI albums the best rock albums of the 90's? If you don't think those are, then don't post. I only wanna want those who do think.

No they are not, not even close. The 90's were a golden era in Rock, perhaps the last. There was so much quality Music released that decade that it is impossible for me to choose one album. 

Radiohead, RHCP, Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, RATM, Metalica & Beck all released amazing albums. I was never a soundgarden or Nirvana fan. UYI 1&2 are up there but they were bloated & dated quickly. There was one album equal to AFD in them but individually they fall well short. In saying that I like them the way they are & have grown to enjoy some of the songs over time, I'm glad they released that much music at once.

While I don't think they are the best rock albums, GnR has always had the heaviest rotation by a long shot in my music, I never grow tired of their small catalogue. 

11 hours ago, nelsontod said:

Not a penny more from me until izzy is back in FULL force.

This.

I have forked out for pit tickets this coming Feb, but beyond that if there is no "new" new music, I'm Out. By new new music I mean a catchy Izzy tune with some slash shredding & the ranga screaming. 

#bringbackizzy

#realgnr

18 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

(had to be done)

God Ashba sounds bad, Duff should give himself an uppercut performing with the hack. Dark times indeed. 

4 hours ago, sonofnazareth said:

Who in their right mind is going to turn up for that shit?

On 28/09/2016 at 0:33 PM, Rickodez said:

100% accurate. They keep adding more and more dates to the tour, looks like they are avoiding at all costs the ''what's next?'' question that will appear when they finish this tour.

Whats next?

Tour - don't tour

Record - don't record

There's not a lot of options.

To suggest they are are adding more dates to avoid "whats next" when they are not half way through a tour? What??

1 minute ago, IncitingChaos said:

Unfortunately it's too big of a record. Regardless of how it should be done, the truth is it will be done Axl's way or it won't get done at all. 

No its not, not now, not after CD. I'm going be optimistic & choose to believe Axl has seen the error of his ways. Geffen wont let him pull the same shit again & Slash & Duff will have more influence than you give credit. Slash wont partake in putting out CD2, he will tour then walk if the last part of your statement is true, however I think you are wrong. 

6 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

 

Too much touring going on, and this record if there is one may be the most over analyzed record ever. This isn't something they put together on the road and say "ok here it is" there's going to be a million takes, tons of polishing, and this will be something that could take a year or two to even get a release date on. 

 

Something a lot closer to "put together on the road" than "a million takes & tones of polishing" please.

GnR never needed a lot of work, just play the fucking song & record it. Polish & GnR should never be used in the same sentience.  

Axl "So you think you can love me & leave me to die" fucking spine tingling. 

2 hours ago, Modano09 said:

Let's say I build a house. And years down the road, I decide I don't want to live there anymore. I just want to unload it, so I sell it for $500,000 cash.

20 years later, the people I sold the house to are selling it. They've put some work into it over the years, the neighborhood has been built up, and now it's valued at $3 million.

Can I walk up to the new owners and say "well I built it, we should split that"?

 

Another good one

Whole show good sound, not sure if already posted. Enjoy 

7 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

It is a fact, Izzy is one of the key founding members of the band who wrote some of the most classic songs.

Fortus is not a session musician, he is a legitimate band member. I don't want to go into this, but however, Fortus is listed in Chinese Democracy as a band member, not a session artist. In the programs for the tours, he is listed as a band member, not a touring member. He has written many (unused) songs for Guns n' Roses in his stay. He has been here for 15 years, and I know this may irritate you and I don't blame you for seeing him a session musician, but technically he is a legitimate band member of this version of Guns n' Roses. Like it or not.

I never said he was more important than Izzy. Izzy will always be the key element of what made Guns n' Roses what it is. But times change and ships sail, and people move on. Again, we don't know anything about what happened with the Izzy situation. I am not favoring either side (Axl/Duff/Slash vs. Izzy) because we don't know exactly what deal went down. What Izzy tweets does not cement anything as proof. For all we know, he could've been offered 50,000 for a few guest appearances and wanted more money. Like it or not, Izzy quit Guns n' Roses back in 1991, giving up his partnership rights. So what, are you arguing Izzy should've just been back in the band like nothing ever happened? Keep in mind Slash and Duff were still under a contract of being under this partnership. Fortus has been in the band since 2002, and we know that Axl is a very loyal man to people who stay in his life. It's not fair to kick Fortus out for Izzy.  

And yes, I am telling you that "the longterm session musician" is more deserving to be here than the original band member who wrote the music. He's reliable, a great guitarist, has stayed by Axl's side through thick and thin (unlike Izzy who walked out on his "best friend" in the early 90's), had some good (admittedly few) parts on Chinese Democracy (a legitimate GN'R album like it or not) and will play a crucial role on new music through his chemistry with Slash and writing skills. Unless something changes, for now, FOR THIS TOUR: Fortus > Izzy.

 

40 minutes ago, Padme said:

I don't care if it is Slash, Angus Young or Keith Richards who is playing CD songs. I don't like them no matter who and how the songs are played. CD is not my cup of tea, it never was and it will never be.

Agree 100%

Breakdown 

Another Izzy song that is more listenable than everything on CD. 

Personally I don't want any songs from that dog of an album on the reunion tour. I didn't pay $650 for pit tickets in Brisbane to hear that shit.

However, In saying that. I gave the Album another listen on youtube a few days ago, to give it another chance, just in case I was having an aneurysm I was unaware of the first time I listened to it. 

I still cant listen through most, if not all of the songs on the album. It is such an unsurprising, uninspiring, disappointment.

The song I thought had the most potential to be a good gunners song was Street of dreams.

Fuck Izzy's cool. It blows my mind the shit that circulated this forum about Duff v Izzy, Fortus doing a good job covering. I want to hear what new music created by the 5 would sound like today.  

15 hours ago, Good, Fuck'n, Night. said:

Sounds Pearl Jam ish. 

1 hour ago, Glidn said:

Definitely.. that's what I thought... 

It also sounds better than everything on CD. 

4 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said:

Lol. I love Izzy, but he turned in shit songs that Axl and Slash had to work up into the songs on the album. Slash, has stated numerous times on record that Izzy was content with basic tracks; essentially demos. Izzy never had an interest in what it takes to be global band, which is why I always find the Kieth Richards comparisons empty, because Kieth knows. Izzy doesn't give a shut and that's fucking cool for that era of GNR, but to evolve and grow he had to leave.

Go on, tell us about the groth & evolution of gunners after Izzy left. 

FFS 

Quote

The band began seriously considering a follow-up to Appetite for Destruction in the summer of 1989, during a fruitful writing session that took place in Chicago. Izzy Stradlin, who had recently sobered up and often traveled separately from his bandmates, was especially productive. "Izzy has brought in eight songs – at least," Rose said in 1990. "Slash has brought in a whole album. I've brought in an album. Duff [McKagan] knows everybody's material backwards. So we've got, like, 35 songs we like, and we want to put them all out, and we're determined to do that." Discussing his newfound sobriety, Stradlin reflected, "I just reached a point where I said, 'I'm gonna kill myself. Why die for this shit?' "

13 hours ago, Glidn said:

Anyone know the name of the first song?

Sounds Pearl Jam ish. 

3 hours ago, AncientEvil80 said:

If those details are true, then fuck yea, Izzy has all the rights to refuse. Unreal. What an insult. 

And Duff should start drinking again. His politically correct side of doing this "business" is starting to bother me... 

This all leaves a very bad taste in mouth... just saying.

Whats all the talk about Duff the business wizard? He made good on some shares & went to business school? He was reportedly (before the tour obviously) worth slightly more than crack head Adler, Izzy & Slash worth considerably more. Can someone full me in?