Sydney Fan

2 hours ago, Order of Nine said:

He doesn't need to yet he plays 20 or so setlist of songs and about 7 guns songs and 2 VR songs.

Just saying, I'd like to see him do an entire tour on SMKC material and see what happens. 

Why do guns do so many cover songs now? Well I can think of a few that were added spontaneously cause of deaths. 

I would be more than happy for slash to drop one guns or VR song and replace with "doin fine" instead.

3 hours ago, Italian girl said:

this

Simple. When i saw guns here in oz at the sydney show during estranged i wanted to hold up a sign and in bold write "FRANK SLOW THE FUCK DOWN". i prefer sorums drumming because he can keep time better.

2 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

Does it all have to be about the business?? How about doing it for the fans? Doing what's right?? But either way. He wouldn't be that expensive to really make a dent in what Axl, Duff and Slash are making, considering the way they are overcharging on this tour compared to their previous tours. And really, if they are so cash poor that they can't afford it and adding him put would put them in the poorhouse, they could add 1.50 $ dollar extra on each ticket. So they would have an extra 25,000 at an arena show and an extra 75,000 at a stadium show give or take and that should cover it.

Agree ronin. Slash always said he would do  it for the fans but the condition was the original 5 only....well i guess once the money came into it and slash wanted to have a relationship with axl band politics came first.  Ive said this on a previous thread afd5 should have happened straight after the LA show. A 4 date club show across the US , no stadiums just clubs back where it all began,  advertise it as a show that will never happen again. They blew that chance.

3 hours ago, marlingrl03 said:

Matt really likes his shorts. 😛

 

The man looks very good and has aged well. Dont know why hes not part of this tour...

3 hours ago, marunic said:

 

Please let me know if you guys can find even a reprint

ebay will need to be your friend,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Charles-Manson-CHARLIE-DONT-SURF-t-shirt-shirt-axl-rose-guns-n-roses/132569792462?hash=item1eddc67fce:m:my0TdRqVrDDzu2PMg4TuvcQ

9 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

There comes a point in every man's life when he starts wearing slippers, ill-fitting socks and develops an interest in train timetables or something similarly mundane and esoteric. W. Axl Rose has clearly reached that stage. 

I wonder if Axl has a stylist at all?

I think Axl should have swollowed his pride and done the AFD5 show by now.

If Axl really wanted to close the book on AFD5 and move on from that part of his past forever, they could have done it last year. Put the NITL dates back by one month so the last LA show is in November, then 2  weeks later do a 4 date show in theatres/clubs in the US just like they did for the theatre shows in 91. Charge as much for the privilidge to allow the fans to see them then close the book on AFD5 forever. Then Axl now has a chance to look into the future (if there will be one) with whatever lineup will be GNR and not have the AFD5 past following him like a shadow.

15 hours ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

'I love to play rock n' roll and I love to play for beautiful people and as far as I'm concerned the most beautiful people in the world that love to rock are in Australia.'  

Two things you can count on with Steven: his jaw-dropping hyperbole and plugging his mother's book.  Naturally, he's brought Mum along on tour for a 'special' Q&A complete with 'no bullshit answers' from them both.  Heck, you'd think his mother was the sixth member of the band the way he touts her.

I find the guy about as sincere as a used car salesman, but I don't blame him for speaking out and harbouring resentment.

You would be bloody bitter.  You just would be.  It's his band, yet he's excluded from it.  If there ever was a remote chance of him being brought back into the fold, I'd say that chance is now dead in the water.  Axl and co. handled the whole Steven situation incredibly badly.  Sure, he's a liability, but I find it difficult to believe with their history of 'personal liabilities' that they couldn't have found some way to accommodate him.  They just couldn't be arsed, or didn't want to try finding a way, and put him in the too hard basket.  

Izzy?  Who knows with him.  I'm inclined to think it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.  Izzy’s no push over and I doubt he’s ‘heartbroken’.

'I love to play rock n' roll and I love to play for beautiful people and as far as I'm concerned the most beautiful people in the world that love to rock are in Australia.'  

Now now!!. I firmly believe outside of NA and SA Australia  GNR has the third biggest fan base. I have a gut feel we will see them here late this year after the Europe shows.

I was not sure to see him when adlers appetite play here but because he's brining his mother down and in which case im sure he will use that part of the tour to bad mouth the rest of the group (deserving or not) . I have no desire now to see him.

48 minutes ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

At least...an Axl's picture

Are they Axls grandpa socks?

59 minutes ago, BOSSY78 said:

From Slashs own comments in his book it seems Axl wanted his input on finding a second guitar player. 

I think it's just as important that Axl be in the decision as Slash.

Axl wrote music and he also sings it. While Slash needs someone who conpliments him and who he feels fits Axl also needs to be able to feed off them both and feel a fit. 

Singers generally add feeling and emotion and to get that the music is very important. I like to think of it at times as a muse.

It reminds me of how they would come up with the music and Axl would start singing. If he was writing the lyrics he would be looking for music that fits the mood and or emotion he is trying to convey. They would be like a muse.

Before amyone goes on a tangent I'm aware Axl didn't write every lyric for the band. He was however, a major contributor lyrically and even more so once Izzy left.

 

I agree with certain parts. Axl may not have cared about gilby as he was practically a touring replacement for izzy. But axl certainly didnt care to much about having an  input into who the replacement for steven should be especially after the whole syeven court drama, again that was left on slashs shoulders and the difference is matt had to record except civil war,  the rest of the songs for the illusion albums so he had to do alot more than gilby. I wonder if the first  time axl  met matt was when they were doing band photos for the album!!. Slash dizzy matt and izzy where the only ones who recorded in the studio together at the same time for the illusion recordings. Correct me if im wrong Axl was never present until the music was recorded and then lay his vocals over.

Thats true kings of the sun has released more music than guns but i think they kind of splinted by 1990 never got the chance to see them. The reason why KOTS mentioned this is because the lead songer of KOTS is a huge tatts fan. They kind of sounded like any typical LA band at the time but love the song "drop the gun".

My 2 cents are that the record company whether it was 3 or 5 albums probably understood that there would have been a chance of reconciliation with guns and that maybe the third album or any albums doesnt  have a release date set by the record company. The reason why slash has released music in short time is because he loves to create and tour i dont think the record company tell him when to record. Slashs albums here in oz are distributed by sony and slash has a good professional relationship with the head of sony in oz. I dont think the record deal has an end date and im sure they would have known there would be the possibility of a reunion at some stage and the contract would have been sogned around that. 

1 hour ago, Alja said:

A black and brown dog

That would be slashs dog fang.

I love reading the above^^^^ 

Im so hoping sidman and gambit can get sorum on their show. Sorum mightnt have been involved in the axl slash doug conversations but poor slash must have been bitching to sorum because there was no-one else in the band slash could talk to about how he was feeling.

Im sure slash would have felt so unhappy if axl couldnt articulate how the next record would sound. If axl couldnt articulate how the next record was going to be in his mind then whats the point of having a third guirar player. Slash just needed another guitar player to help with certain ideas from vibing off their playing. The only guitar player that had an izzy style of playing was gilby. I also think slash trying to get izzy back may have been a last ditch effort to bring some musical direction for the band and from one indiana friend to another help axl communicate with everyone in the band again like the early days which by 94-95 is where it all went wrong....they couldnt communicate anymore.

If slash couldnt find a player like izzy or gilby where can he go to from there?. Axl should have left the second guitar player to slash to find. Slashs found gilby and sorum a good fit and axl should have trusted slashs instincts on a second guitar player for the band.

1 hour ago, Tourettes2400 said:

 

Gee they are all coming out of the wood work. All trying not to be out done by one another. 😀

Always wondered if the band did any pro filming that night. 

7 hours ago, downzy said:

Because it's on other people to get Axl to release new music?

Again, there are so many misconceptions as to what a manager actually does.  A manager isn't a psychiatrist or motivational speaker.  They handle the day to day affairs and help to execute for their clients on the business side.  

I know that. Im not asking whether the managers played a role in getting axl to release music. My question was more how their management style irked axl and was the reason for their downfall or services no longer required. Also i can bet their were managers with different artists who unfortunately had to be psychiatrists in order tok get certain jobs ddone, but agree being one is not in their job description.

2 hours ago, RONIN said:

He's looking for yes-men. Therein lies the rub. Besides, what can management do when they're at the mercy of their star and his whims? Nada. You have someone who is unwilling to listen or follow any kind of plan. Hence the revolving door of managers over the last 15 years. The drama with former manager Merck and how that dude was thrown under the bus after Axl failed to deliver CD by the end of 2006 is a perfect example of this.

 

Doc McGhee (former KISS manager, announced on the job in Feb '10 by Axl, fired around Feb '11.)

"[Axl] wanted to prove he could write," Mr. McGhee says, "and saw his Guns N’ Roses as a way to demonstrate his contributions to the original band."

A Guns N’ Roses reunion is “one of those things the audience was told they would never get,” says Peter Katsis (former Ministry manager), who briefly managed the breakaway band Mr. Rose has fronted in recent years.

Manager after manager popped the reunion question. In one 3 a.m. conversation while managing Mr. Rose on tour[2011], Mr. Katsis recalls: “He told me he wasn’t opposed to doing it at some point, and that he had no real issues with Slash.” But he still wasn’t ready.

Mr. Rose parted ways with Mr. Katsis in late 2011, leaving the handling of Guns N’ Roses to Beta Lebeis, Mr. Rose’s personal assistant and confidante, and her son, Fernando; they were aided by Mr. Rose’s business manager, booking agent and lawyer.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/guns-n-roses-puts-it-back-together-1458760765

12/2011

The constant [reunion] question is an albatross and leaves Rose not only tired but wary of anyone in the business looking to work with him. "All these managers, they all believe in one thing: sell a reunion tour and get their commission. It's just a phone call. It's a half a day's work, or however long they want to keep the bidding war going. They get their commission and they don't care if it falls on its face." LA Times, 12/2011

"Every manager comes in and wants me to make things smaller," says Rose. Guns N' Roses, for example, requires twice as many tour trucks as the budget calls for, he says. Why no one else can understand the band's needs is an obvious frustration for Rose. - LA Times, 12/2011

"We decided, 'No more managers,'" said Lebeis a few days after the Seattle concert. "Between me and Fernando and my daughter, we're dealing with the management." Lebeis added that she characterizes Rose as "more than a son to me," and that after Katsis' departure, "I told [Rose] if he hires another manager, I quit." LA Times, 12/2011 ()

Thanks ronin for all of this. So what was the issue with irving azoff. I understand that he is a prick and i know he managed the eagles and don felder had no major good things to say about him.

4 hours ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

@janrichmond thanks for putting that letter....I have no words...

Axl really has bad taste in people that manage his career....

I agree after reading the letter.  Who would thought axls "career" would just be endless touring rather than releasing another 2 albums worth or having some sort of a vision. I would like to understand the modus operandi of the managers axl has had.

Not sure if this is applicable slashs towel that he used onstage and threw into the crowd when seeing velvet revolver in sydney feb.2005. I must have elbowed every mother fucker to get it. I actually have it framed.

16 hours ago, AncientEvil80 said:

God... I hope not. 

23 hours ago, kiwiguns said:

They will tour again as there is a large market outside the US for stadium tours in South America, Asia and the South Pacific. 

Europe has a massive festival scene, and i would not be surprised to see GNR appear at Glastonbury  at some point in the future. 

They might do stadiums in the US and Canada or stick to Arenas as any possible short fall would be made up from shows in other parts of the world.

Fans in the US might not have been awear but 50,000 people turned up in Auckland. Thats the pull GNR have around the world. New Zealand is a very small market in terms of population compared to the rest of the world.

"Europe has a massive festival scene, and i would not be surprised to see GNR appear at Glastonbury  at some point in the future" - would GNR go over well with the hipsters and d list celebreties that attend Glastonbury?

9 hours ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

can u guys do an interview with Traci Lords by any chance I'd like to hear her side of the story of her somewhat tumultuous relationship with Slash 

Would be funny to hear her recollection of going to slashs place and seeing him and west arkeen smoking crack. Im hoping sidman your able to get an interview with matt sorum...granted he would talk about himself a lot but as he claims to remember more than duff he would give us an excellent insight into the band chemistry/musical output of the 94-96 period.

I think the classic lineup will be the final tour but probably 3 or 4 dates like the theatre tour was. But after jamie adlers facebook post this may drive a wedge between axl and steven further.  If the relationship between axl and steven is that bad a 3 or 4 date tour will probably be best for both of them.....except for us fans. 

if  sidman cant get axl for an interrview then i dont know how the big interview could get him