DK6

15 minutes ago, wasted said:

They could play If the World instead of Live N Let Heavens. 

Or they could play a good song!

10 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

I would have to go with Paradise City for that award.

Yeah you’re right actually! WTTJ is better as well. 

I think i was focusing on the rest of the UYI videos which were crap.

Their best video by a mile.

Pretty boring and unremarkable song for me.

Sort of song that if you asked me to hum or play the guitar riff I wouldn't have any recollection of how it sounded!

1 minute ago, Rovim said:

Versatility could be the way to go this time. It worked on Chinese but there weren't enough tunes on it for the scope of it perhaps. With Axl's completed material and a desire to work from lyrics first it should be diverse as it is. I wonder if Axl will keep the actual performances of Bucket and Robin, let Slash record all over it or maybe even let Slash alter them.

A double album of old and new all blended together could be the ultimate melting pot of the band themselves basically covering all the bases. A modern uyi. I think Axl might be up for it but I wonder Slash will approach it.

I don't reckon there's any chance of hearing music with Bucket or Robin on it in my opinion.

Slash and Duff will have a chance to work on those songs and alter them as well. 

I definitely think a double album would be the only way to go - using all the music that the different members bring in. Get everyone to work on them.

Might get it released by about 2030 if we're lucky!

I used to watch the UYI I & 2 videos with my older brother. Wasn't a specific song- just Slash in general. I thought he was the coolest thing I'd ever seen!

On 06/10/2018 at 10:33 PM, soon said:

Hello by Adele, strangely. 

I've always thought there was notes of CD in the arrangement but more so the sonics. The sonics have a lead vocal and piano that are very present and sound full on there own, yet their are plenty of sonic pockets left empty to accommodate a great many layers of audio that enter later. Leading into the chorus theres even a tiny synth swell that is comparable to the one heard at the start of This I Love. The drums in the chorus don't sound much like the final released version of CD but it really reminds me of the TWAT demos. And the drums in the last section are reminiscent of Madagascar.

To me, CD really broke some ground in creating grand atmospheric 'spaces' that are similar to movie theatre mixes. I think Hello follows in that lineage.

Throw some over-saturated guitarist on the last few chorus' and to my ears we are in CD territory.

Start at 2:17ish

 

Wow i think you nailed it. This is exactly what he's talking about! 

DJ Ashba was an embarrassment!

Never seen a bigger try hard in my life. Slash wanna be.

Why would you say these horrible things? Are you trying to make me cry??

15 minutes ago, Caught_in_a_Coma said:

Double-Talkin Jive is such a sick song.  I think Axl's voice adds a lot to the song as well.  If I were in control, I think I'd rein it in a bit, but I wouldn't want Double-Talkin Jive without Axl on backing vocals

Out of interest - what do you mean by rein it in a bit. Do you mean the live version?

The live version of this song is probably my favourite GNR song. Always my go-to on any new bootlegs - have to check the quality of the DTJ 

48 minutes ago, ludurigan said:

exactly

thats one of the very many "ingredients" that made GNR songs great along with many others.

Almost every GNR song has very very good dynamics. these sort of dynamics make you like the song and make you want to listen to it (using the words of Axl on early NR) "again and again and again and again and again"

Problem is that Slash and Duff and Axl seem to be completely clueless about how to do that in a song. When you listen to their solo material there is very little to none of that. Their solo stuff has very poor dynamics in too many songs. very little of that building-crescendo-then-releasing-etc dynamics on their songs

Exceptions are few and far between. Neurotic Outsiders and VR are the main ones, but Neurotic Outsiders is basically all Steve Jones (a master on dynamics) and VR songs likely had a lot of unsung input from Kushner.

I have said that before and i will say it again: THAT new intro to better is exhibit #A on how Slash and Duff are not able to create satisfactory dynamics by themselves. It shows that they are good at creating nice parts but most of the time they don't know what to do with them and end up taking "wrong turns" that basically waste all the momentum and make the songs boring and hard to listen to.

I think you might be on to something!

You've managed to explain something I've been thinking myself for a long time.

I've always thought that Slash is very good at being a lead guitar player over songs that have been arranged or written by someone else. Not so great when he's the main influence on a song.

His best work has been in a band situation in my opinion - GNR and VR. When there is influence from other people. His guitar playing is more tasteful in those situations.\

He can come up with great riffs and solos but seems to struggle to put them together in to a great song consistently.

I'm loving the new album.

Jerry Cantrell can write some super heavy riffs but then puts these beautiful melodies and lyrics over the top.

I really love the harmonies between him and Duvall. Duvall is great and I love what he does in these songs BUT you can only imagine what they would sound like with Layne Staley singing on them.

I think Layne Staley is the saddest story in the history of rock music. 

46 minutes ago, RJ88 said:

So is "Friday" by that stupid 16 year old girl whose parents paid money to make a music video for her

This I Love is terrible and by far the worst track on CD

If the world is the worst by far for me!

On 24/09/2018 at 6:05 AM, -W.A.R- said:

A more interesting question: What if it was Axl-Izzy-Duff-Adler but with Buckethead instead of Slash?

I still doubt it would as successful but i'd say it'd be very successful. Thats pretty damn close to the real deal.

The casual GNR fan has no idea who buckethead is. They just think he's a dickhead with a KFC bucket on his head. I don't think people would give a shit about that reunion.

On 22/09/2018 at 11:37 AM, Gordon Comstock said:

After a few listens I think Lost Inside The Girl is the best song. I like Sugar Cane for the silly pop song that it is, same with The One You Loved Is Gone. I'm starting to dig Slow Grind too. It would've been nice to hear an instrumental on this album though, IMO.

I've never seen SMKC live but I always thought it'd be cool if they opened with an instrumental. If I bought a ticket to see Slash's band it'd be great to see him start the show with a rockin instrumental (then go straight into another song).

 

I think we can safely say we have very different taste in Slash songs! 

I think sugar cane is the worst song I've ever heard. Mind blowingly horrendous. I can't find the words to say how bad it is.

Slow grind is another appalling song in my opinion. One of the worst riffs Slash has ever written. Shocking song.

Safari inn is a great song to put you to sleep. Nothing catchy or memorable about it for me. 

Same with watch this. Neither of them are orion that's for sure.

Slash does not have a good time with instrumentals.

37 minutes ago, Gibbo said:

@DK6 I'd give it a few more listens mate it's a grower at least 5. Am not saying it's perfect but Slash does kick arse on it I think

I'll keep trying mate.

Hopefully it'll grow on me and I'll have to write a retraction.

3 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

I was talking about Slash's guitar. Not about Myles. You have to be able to get the difference between Slash's guitar playing and Myles' vocal melodies

True enough mate.

Its definitely myles bringing it down for me.

Just find it hard to get past that and focus on the music.

There is some cool ideas from Slash. I guess im just disappointed with the songs they become after myles has his way with them.

2 minutes ago, Towelie said:

Funny review, but far too many references to bowel movements. 

Slash is, for better or worse, one of those artists who puts out whatever he creates and doesn't overthink his output. Perhaps some more care and time would increase his quality control, but that's not who is Slash is, and quite frankly, I'd rather Slash's approach to making music than Axl's, who never seems inspired or motivated to create anything new. 

it's funny how you criticise the album for being too pop and yet you're favourite song on the record (The One You Loved Is Gone) is the poppiest song on there. 

I guess I'm just unhappy about the path he's gone down with his music at the moment. 

I think its more myles really.

At least the one you loved is gone is a ballad not a pop song pretending to be a rock song. 

I think thats the difference.

I think some of the ideas could be pretty cool with axls input.

I think they bring the best out of each other.

Slash needs to be challenged more.

3 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

You can like or dislike the songs but whoever's calling Slash's guitarwork and solos on this record uninspired just doesn't know shit about rockmusic.

You misspelled pop music.

I've listened to this album a few times now and after considering it seriously I feel comfortable referring to it as a pile of crap.

If young slash knew that old slash would be playing this shit music he would spew his guts up.

It sits somewhere between nickleback, matchbox 20 and maroon 5.

When did slash become pop music.

People on this thread "its great - so easy to listen to". Is that what we're after with a slash album?? If you like easy listening then boy have i got the artist foryou - Enya!

Ive been dreaming of a slash/axl album for 25 years and this makes me wonder if I should move on.

1. Call of the wild - dull, boring song that sounds like all their other crap songs. Myles bleats like a goat all over it. Id rather listen to the version of chop suey where all the weird goats do the singing.

2. Serve you right - more of the same. Nothing memorable about it at all. I hate myles weird whispering voice as much his goat bleating.

3. My antidote - after a bad start it actually gets worse! Slash trying to be tom morello for some reason. Am i missing something or have the first 3 songs got the same tempo, chorus, goat bleating and uninspired solo. Struggling to tell the songs apart at this stage.

4. Mind your manners - SMKC version of painting by numbers. Would struggle to dislike it more. 

5. Lost inside the girl - Myles sings this one like he's a magician on a stage in las vegas. Weird whispery voice again. Makes a change from the goat i suppose. Pretty sure myles is actually saying lost inside the grrrrrrl. Corny lyrics and generic guitar.

6. Read between the lines - worst guitar riff slash has ever written. Pretty sure he's actually used it before but its all blending together at this stage. Terrible song. The verses make me cringe so much.

7. Slow grind - trying to pretend this song never happened. Appalling. Vocals hit a new low. I'm almost positive slash has ripped this riff off from himself bout 5 times.

8. The one you loved is gone - beautiful main guitar riff. Vocals are quite nice at the start. Meanders a bit. Solos aren't bad. Finally made it to a song thats semi listenable. What a relief.

9. When i first heard this song as a single i thought it was soft. Thought slash needed to grow some balls. Compared to the other "rock" songs on this album it sounds like lamb of god. Was disappointing as a single but turns out to be one of the better songs.

10. Sugar cane - don't think i can bring myself to talk about this one. Makes me too upset. 

11. The great pretender - this song is trying be something that it doesnt quite become. The something that its trying to be is messages by VR. At least it doesn't sound like all the shit pop music on this album. Misses the mark though. Rubbish verses. 

12. Boulevard of broken hearts - why does slash start with the riff from eye of the tiger? Myles is too much of a pansy for Rocky. This song is trying to be epic. My last bowel movement was more epic than this. This whole song seems incredibly forced - once again much like my last bowel movement.  Lyrics are pathetic.

To say this album is disappointing is like saying that external hemorrhoids are a tad uncomfortable. 

Slash needs to learn the difference between a good friend and a good vocalist.

I'd rather listen to axl if he was going through a techno funk folk opera stage and started singing in italian.

Slash seems to surrounded by band mates too scared to tell him he keeps bringing in the same song ideas.

Slash is my favourite guitarist ever. Has inspired me with my own guitar playing so much. But its getting to the stage where i think we need to stage an intervention. He needs to be saved from himself - and myles. This can't go on.

Myles oversings so much with that stupid voice he puts on. I swear sometimes its like listening to mariah carey trying to sing a rock song.

5 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

Encouraged by the positive reviews. Listening to "My Antidote" on my Echo right now.. The whole band sounds great..  This song has an underlying heavy vibe to it but Myles somehow seems to squeeze the heaviness out of it.  Most other songs as well. 

I agree.

Some riffs that are pretty cool. 

It's not just Myles voice but the melodies he sings that are too much like pop music for me.

Just listened all the way through.

First opinion is that it's a pretty ordinary album.

Hoping that it grows on me.

Struggling to listen to Myles sing on every song. Man I get sick of his voice quick - usually the first verse of every song!

Slash seems to have taken up writing pop music these days. I would not call this hard rock. It's about as hard rock as Creed.

With Myles singing it starts to  stray in to Nickleback territory.

Slash needs to get working with Axl!

32 minutes ago, Powderfinger said:

Izzy was the soul of Guns. 

His songs from the illusions albums have stood the test of time better than some of the others. A great songwriter. (I’ll take a songwriting guitar player over a shredder any day) 

I agree 100%

I still think the main riff from Pretty tied up is arguably the best riff on the illusion albums.

4 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

It's time for a change. I really hope this is the last cooperation between Slash and Myles. Slash needs to work with someone with a different style who brings something new to that formular.

Maybe it inspires him even more with a new rhythm section. All I heard from the new album are WOF leftovers 

I wonder who he could work with. Someone that brings the best guitar playing out of him. There is always that bloke who sings for GNR.

I've always thought that slash is a great lead player when he's playing over someone else's song. On the whole that seems to get the best out of him.

A lot of the songs that he writes sound the same as every other song he's written. Combine that with Myles singing the same song every time and it's starting to sound pretty bland.