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3 hours ago, kiwiguns said:

It's funny, how some of you as fans, have convinced yourselves that the current drummer needs to go, or for a million other reasons ex band members need to return or are in fact coming back, based on personal opinions, with no facts to back any of these theories up, or are under the impression what they say on a fan message board is going to change anything the band does with its current line up. 

I suppose that's what happens when you spend your life in a fan forum, you come to believe you are part of the bands world and what you say counts.

Its does not matter. You guys have no control of what the band, current members or past members do in relation to their involvement in the band, just like Axl, Duff, Slash, Richard, Melissa, Frank, Dizzy or Izzy have no control over what you guys do in life. 

19 pages currently, this thread could go to 100 pages but nothing will change. It is, what it is. 

What are forums for then? What are we meant to talk about?

2 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

The vegas residency wasnt something to crow about. By then with the flying piano and ashba i dont think axl could have taken the gnr brand further into the ground. The emo guns version had run its course. The 12 songs slash had referred to in his book that he wrote with izzy where VR was in the early stages, i would like to know what those songs were.

Absolutely! How did that Appetite for Democracy dvd/cd get released?? For a bloke who's incredibly fussy about what he/GNR release I'm still not sure how that one got through!

I would also love to know what those songs were. 

If they have been used in VR/SMKC or whatever wouldn't we know by the songwriting credits?

It would be amazing if they somehow found their way on to a GNR album!

On 15/07/2019 at 6:27 AM, KeyserSoze said:

This is why I think they are so under rated.

They seem to have done a good job of having a huge pocket of fans in at least every state that are willing to travel to see them every year. Other than that, the “casual” music fan thinks their career died when Kurt Cobain died. Which is completely untrue. I feel like those same people are the ones that complain that theres only been one original album of GNR content in 25 years. Pearl Jam have produced 5 in this DECADE with the same lineup... 

 

I’d take you one further and tell you to listen to their 4th and 5th albums ‘No Code’ and ‘Yield’ back to back on an intense mushroom trip. Not because you need to be inebriated to enjoy the music, but because that is Pearl Jam at their most tribal. And you can hear it, and feel it in the music. Jack Irons really brought that spirit out of them.  

I know everyone gives Eddie all the praise (or discredit.. depending on how you look at things) but Stone Gossard, the rhythm guitarist, is one of the most under rated song writers of that decade. Of the 11 songs on ‘Ten’, Gossard wrote or co-wrote 8. With main credits on “Alive”, “Even Flow” and “Black.” Yes. The man himself wrote all of those hits by himself. 

Mike McCready is also probably one of the most under rated lead guitarists of that era as well. I feel like many people don’t even know his name! While many guitarists of that day were taking a page out of Aerosmith or Led Zepp’s book, Mike was taking SRV’s licks (Yellow Ledbetter duh)    and making them grunge. He could WAIL on the guitar. Case in point (start around 2:38):

 

 

You also had Jeff Ament experimenting with different basses and bass sounds. Fretless (Oceans, Alive, Even Flow), 12-string (Jeremy, Deep) and even Upright Bass. (Daughter, Dissident) Not many bands were being THAT creative or going out on a limb to do things like that yet, as far as new bands are concerned. 

As far as music passed that golden era of PJ is concerned, we’ve already talked about Yield. For those of you that would like to sig deeper, I suggest this lil nugget from their 6th album, Binaural:

 

This is a slower one, so your boy DeadSlash might take offense to it, but you can see how mature the band became from the first video to this one. They almost broke up in the late 90’s, then came back with an interesting album that completely wreaks of growing up. This was the onset of Eddies “favorite” president Bush being elected. So many of the songs started to become politically charged. But you also had a lot of songs talking about how the band dealt with human emotions, as by that time they had run the gamut of highs and lows etc. This particular song, as Ed mentions in the intro in the video, revolves around the topic of saying goodbye to a friend, or not being able to say goodbye. 

“With heavy breath, awakened regrets
Back pages and days alone that could have been spent, together
But we were miles apart
Every inch between us becomes light years now
No time to be void or save up on life
You got to spend it all”

Amazing song writing and lyrics. 

Again, what was Axl doing during this period? 

Wait a minute........is that you Eddie??

On 12/06/2019 at 11:14 PM, Len Cnut said:

I think too much is made of mental health these days.  There's a fuckin' acronym for every second fuckin' personality trait, its used to excuse fucked up behaviour way too much, everythings some kind of an illness and drawn back into like, mental health.  Its valid is many fuckin' ways I'm sure but I don't think you necessarily do anyone any favours by making such a fuckin' big deal of it, perhaps I'm cynical but I don't think there's that many noble people out there sticking their necks out for the poor sufferers of mental health issues, more often than not its to do with a person seeking the spotlight, oftentimes people who already have a great deal of attention. 

I hear this a lot with the boxer Tyson Fury, 'he's done so much for mental health!'...I love the man and everything but has he really?  These people all have something to sell you and the minute that is the case you should always question why that person is presenting you with 'x' narrative.  Personally I don't think there's nothing substantially wrong with Axl Rose, based on the limited information and knowledge of him I have.  Again, this is just an opinion, who knows, he might be totally batshit but I don't see it myself. 

More often than not, I find, people that have mental health issues don't make a massive song and dance about because their priority is getting through life and being normal, they don't want people to know about that shit and have themselves being judged differently or treated like they're a fuckin' retard.  They say Joey Ramone had OCD all his life, like crippling levels of it, to where as a kid doctors told his mother that he probably wouldn't be able to live a normal life, nobody ever heard about that shit though, not until after he died because, as I was saying, the man wanted to get on and live a normal life and that kinda thing is ones personal business. 

I'm immediately suspicious of people who are desperate to lay their lives on the operating table to be pored over like an opening wound by millions of gossip hungry 'fans', people that spend half their lives trying to make you understand them by telling you about every time their Dad gave em a clip round the earhole or whatever.  Fuck that shit. 

Sincere people want to forge ahead despite their handicapps and shortcomings, not making a big issue of them and end up being defined by them.

I love how you come crawling out of your cave every time you hear the words "mental health" 

People go on about Steven not being in the band due to being unreliable.

Izzy is flakey as all buggery. No way you could trust him to stick around for a full tour!

Too big a deal for too many people. Too much money at stake to risk it.

9 minutes ago, cremefraiche said:

I think, in fairness, English is clearly not this persons first language. Perhaps what they meant was the opposite of racism through their limited language skills. 

Could be interpreted as "typical that the black guy gets no praise". 

 

"Frank is the black guy so gets no praise"  and "I do not see on sites much praise or comments for Frank, the black guy"

could read, to someone with limited english, as "I believe the reason no one around here or on other sites seem to like Frank is because he's black, which is stupid."

That was the whole point! That's what everyone thought she was saying. I don't think anyone thought she was saying anything else!

The point was that she was implying that the forum members who don't like Frank are racist. They don't  like him because he's black.

Noone though she was being racist.

She was being incredibly offensive to people just offering an opinion on Frank's drumming - which they are entitled to do eithout being called racist.

2 hours ago, lame ass security said:

It's not so much the line as it is the delivery, he sounds just like Count von Count from Seasame Street. I think he intentionally wanted to sound like him.

How many takes would he have sung over the years - and that's the one he chooses!! That's the crazy thing about CD I reckon. Every little thing on it is so micromanaged but crazy shit like that still gets through! 

32 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

Jeez. Ok you’re officially fucking nuts with this response. This guy is so fucking being sarcastic that it’s dripping off the screen. 

I don't think  a discussion about rape is really the place for sarcasm.

I'd say that was a perfectly reasonable response.

39 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

So do you leave dumb comments like this is all threads, or you just have a personal crusade against Pearl Jam? 

Jeez you're a grumpy little fella aren't ya? Very testy reply! Are you going to be OK? I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. 

"A personal crusade against Pearl Jam" is probably a bit of a stretch! I don't particularly dislike Pearl Jam at all.

It's just that I think they're a fairly straight forward rock band who get the recognition they deserve.

I think everyone has a favourite PJ song but I think they became boring after a while because they're not exactly treading new ground.

Apart from No Code which I thought went in a bit of a different direction with a few of the percussion heavy songs.

11 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

Something funny?

Nah I just don't really like coffee...

3 hours ago, KeyserSoze said:

nope. Pearl Jam are far and away more Under rated. 

Just spat my coffee all over my computer screen!

4 minutes ago, Towelie said:

The difference between Slash's TIL solo and Ashba's is that Slash ain't even trying, and is just noodling whatever the fuck he feels like, whereas with Ashba, that is a composed solo without a single note improvised and it's simplified from Finck's album solo which he was unable to play.

2 hours ago, Brownstone drum said:

Bumblefoot was great on There was a Time in 2014, was a little looser, Citr  and loved him on Shacklers.

I agree  Ashba was better than Slash on TIL but if Slash played it like it was written he'd nail it

I'm no Dj Ashba fan but there is no way he couldn't play Finck's solo. It's a beautiful solo but not a difficult solo to play.

I love Slash's TIL solos. I don't understand why anyone would want Slash to copy another persons solo. The new versions of CD songs are the closest to new music we've had since 2008!

You don't get an amazing guitarist like Slash in and ask him to duplicate other's guitar solos. That's never going to happen!

Such a great era. T2 and GnR - could it be any better?

Super impressed how Slash keeps changing his guitar throughout the song! 

Why doesn't he still do this??

This should be a pretty short list....

On 04/06/2019 at 10:48 PM, TMAC20 said:

This is 1 of the Slash guitars I own - it’s yours if u can prove me wrong 

I'm super confused by this video!

Is it out of sync or something?

Your fingers are not playing what I'm hearing!

I hate these more than words can express.

His version of locomotive is one of the worst things I've heard in my life and I've heard William Shatner's cover of Lucy in the sky with diamonds!

Axl used to struggle for breath singing locomotive in the 90's.

Not sure how he'd go now!

 Would still love to hear it though. Love to see slash let loose on that one!

17 minutes ago, SympathyFortheAxl said:

 

One of the reasons an artist changes their sound is to attract the contemporary music-listening audience of the day, most of whom are young.  Young people drive the music industry, and that's always been the case.  

 

Do you think some bands change the music style they are playing because what they are listening to and enjoying is changing as well.

People will generally write the type of music they want to hear or are listening to.

It's the chicken or the egg type of question really.

Do they change their style to try and fit in or because they are enjoying listening to that style of music?

I'd much rather think they are writing the music they like. I would hate to think of a band trying to just write what they think a contemporary audience wants to hear - like some kind of business decision.

Ben Harper - Pleasure and Pain (album from 1992)

Ben sticks mostly to the weissenborn on this one - very cool.

9 hours ago, Creed said:

UYI had the perfect GNR sound. it was actually overproduced, but somehow it was just perfect like that. And with Melissa, Frank and 4tus it wont sound perfect. 

That's the spirit!!

7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

   I'd give it 2/5 or 6/10. But this is an entirely separate discussion from legitimacy. 

I've been running your maths through my super computer but I just can't seem to work it out.

Perhaps if you can show me your calculations I might be able to run a new algorithm on it.

The best I can come up with so far is that you meant to say that you give CD a perfect score of 5/7.

Bundy was tested and shown to have an IQ of 124 or some shit. Not hugely above average at all. Been blown out of proportion over the years - same with his looks.

There was research done a while back on serial killer IQ's and their average IQ was shown to be lower than that of the general population.

There are always exceptions of course like Ed Kemper, Jeffrey Dahmer, Rodney Alcala and the unabomber. 

The Ted Bundy Tapes gave very little new information at all. Been able to find all that stuff on YouTube for years.

I firmly believe double talkin jive is the best anti home-fuck song ever written.

I loved FNM back in the day.

As a teenager i thought Mike Patton was the coolest man on earth.

As i got older i realised he is a pretentious wanker. One of the nastiest people I've ever heard of.

He has these die hard fans who piss in his pocket with everything he does despite the fact he has barely been involved in a decent band/song/album in the past 20 years.

We go on about Axl's vocals on this forum but for a so called vocal genius pattons vocals are a complete fucking joke now.

He can't sing anymore so he just does this deep growl shit which sounds the same on every song.

He has released more crap over the past 20 years than my septic tank.

I can't fucking stand people like him who think they're too cool for everything. Same with Kurt Cobain.

Music is meant to be fun - you play and listen to what you enjoy.

Not listening to something because its not cool is about the least cool thing you can do!

I'm starting to think the most unpopular GnR opinion on this forum is that I absolutely love GnR and I think they are the greatest band on Earth!!