Manic Street Preachers

[wasted]

I had to mention this record. Even though this band has one of the best back catalogs in rock their new album is by far their most accessible. It's a record like Nevermind, Back in Black or AFD where every song is outshone by the next. Even the slower ballads are plyed fast. The whole album is very anthemic pop rock.

Autumnsong reminds of Sweet Child of Mine meets Queen.

But the whole album is packed with songs.

Official Video:

Edited February 18, 2008 by wasted

[Kickingthehabit]

Motorcycle Emptiness is one of my favorite songs. A forgotten gem of the 90's..

-Kickingthehabit

[Estranged Reality]

MSP made it well known when they came out in Britain that GN'R was one of their biggest inspirations.

In fact, they performed It's So Easy quite often as part of their live setlist.

Edited February 18, 2008 by Estranged Reality

[wasted]

I have the You Love Us gatefold 12" with It's So Easy (live). All silver affair.

What's surprising for me is just how many records they have now. Know Your Enemy, Lifeblood, Send Away The Tigers - all great albums. But then you have all the obvious ones...so I'm looking at it like "Best British Band of 90s". They just never stop. Obviosuly they are quite a weird band but once you're hooked it's hard not to be entertained. Great guitar playing, vocals by Bradfield.

[Shuffle]

I love the Manics, and I definitely agree that Send Away the Tigers is their most accesible album, it's like their whole career put in one album They've also got lots of other good albums like Generation Terrorists, Gold Against The Soul, The Holy Bible and Everything Must Go... The Holy Bible is probably their best but their least accesible since it's generally considered one of the darkest rock albums ever but it's still fuckin' great

And James Dean Bradfields guitar playing reminds a lot of Slash's, mainly because Slash is/was his idol, together with Mick Jones of The Clash, Steve Jones of the Sex Pistols, Stuart Adamson of the Skids and Keith Levene of PIL...

[ADPT]

It's a great album. They kind of misfired with Know Your Enemy and Lifeblood. So, like the best bands, when you get lost go back to the beginning. The classic sound is there but it sounds more mature. I love 'Indian Summer'.

Edited February 18, 2008 by ADPT

[wasted]

I totally loved Know Your Enemy.

It brought back the Manics as an exciting band. That album was supposed to be an album of LA FM Rock and an album of sublime pop - a double album - but they bottled it.

Lifeblood is like Holy Bible for 30 somethings. Really liked it. The one I didn't like that much was This Is My Truth. Still liked it but it seemed like they gone too far down that road of success where they were only just the Manics. I have all the cd singles for Everything Must Go. There's 2 cds for each single. Amazing B-sides came out on Lipstick Traces.

I got the Send Away the Tigers in Japan. It had 4 bonus tracks. A cover of working class hero, really good, acoustic version of Tigers, a punk cover, and a dark song. Actually it says here: Working class hero, Love letter to the future, Morning Comrades, Send away (acoustic)

Dead trees and Traffic Islands is an amazing song from b-sides.

Look at me

I'm honest

and I'm free

I was born to

Underachieve

[wasted]

It's a great album. They kind of misfired with Know Your Enemy and Lifeblood. So, like the best bands, when you get lost go back to the beginning. The classic sound is there but it sounds more mature. I love 'Indian Summer'.

Yeah I thought it was gonna be one of those albums where the opener is great and theres a single and a classic manics song. But every song, even the ones I normally don't like much are done perfectly. Like Indian Summer and Great Depression are beautiful. Rendition is a shot in the arm as well. Imperial Bodybags and I am just a Patsy are my favs, not cos of the lyrics but because they are so anthemic. Like rocking songs off Holy Bible.

did anyone notice that the Rs are backwards like on the Holy Bible - the seven brige is in the back ground on the cover. Maybe you don't know what that means.

Your Love Anyone Is Not Enough

[Graeme]

My Aunt and Uncle are crazy about the Manics so they introduced me to their genius. They write damn good music, This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours is another excellent album.

[ADPT]

It's a great album. They kind of misfired with Know Your Enemy and Lifeblood. So, like the best bands, when you get lost go back to the beginning. The classic sound is there but it sounds more mature. I love 'Indian Summer'.

Yeah I thought it was gonna be one of those albums where the opener is great and theres a single and a classic manics song. But every song, even the ones I normally don't like much are done perfectly. Like Indian Summer and Great Depression are beautiful. Rendition is a shot in the arm as well. Imperial Bodybags and I am just a Patsy are my favs, not cos of the lyrics but because they are so anthemic. Like rocking songs off Holy Bible.

did anyone notice that the Rs are backwards like on the Holy Bible - the seven brige is in the back ground on the cover. Maybe you don't know what that means.

Your Love Anyone Is Not Enough

I live near the Severn Bridge. Both of them. So it could be a nod to Edwards. Or their Welsh roots. I'm fairly sure, though, it's from the same book the rest of the photos are taken from.

[wasted]

Valerie Phillips?

Nice artwork.

I still havent got Forever Delayed or Lipstick Traces. Have all the tracks tho. There were some really amazing orchestral pieces on the b-sides of Everything Must Go singles. Like 10 minute James Bond epics.

I used to live in Bristol. So sort of recognise the severn bridge. I wonder why its there on cover.

Edited February 21, 2008 by wasted

[wasted]

I was earching like fuck for Valerie P stuff but couldnt find shit.

All I found was this quote on a forum:

"Well one thing I'll say about Valerie Phillips - she could do with some online representation, it's a bit daft in 2008 that I can't find anything about her or her work besides an Amazon listing on google! I doubt Monika will be the first woman on mars if she can't even connect to the internet!"

and this crazy page:

http://www.thisisyesterday.com/ints/manifesto.html

[gnr=axl]

I have nothing but love for this band

I was lucky enough to finally get to see them last December and loved it, the new songs fitted in to the setlist so well :xmasssanta:

[wasted]

I saw them just before Generation Terrorists came out. I was surprised they could play Motorcycle Emptiness. I saw them at Reading around the time of the greatest hits. Very good show with You Love Us as a great show piece it was like a Rolling Stones show with all the hits. But since then they are carrying on. Unbelieveable band.

Even after when they came back as 3 piece I was think this is gonna suck. But heard them live on the radio. Elona/Alone, Australia, Interiors, American Trilogy - wow.

I was like gobsmacked for weeks. I suppose its like the record in the hot stuff, stilling feeling Holy Bible but going more commercial. At the point of no return they said burn, baby burn.

Know your Enemy is underated as well.

Lifeblood is a classy album.

Send Away the Tigers seems to have put these two album together with some classic manics and we have a hit people. You can turn Send Away The Tigers way the fuck up. This album could break America.

Edited February 21, 2008 by wasted

[Dead Flower]

Motorcycle Emptiness is one of my favorite songs. A forgotten gem of the 90's..

I can't stop listening to this song now. The guitar melodies =

I've had this band on my to-do list for ages, but this thread has finally got me into gear. Right into Generation Terrorists now.

[wasted]

Motorcycle Emptiness is one of my favorite songs. A forgotten gem of the 90's..

I can't stop listening to this song now. The guitar melodies =

I've had this band on my to-do list for ages, but this thread has finally got me into gear. Right into Generation Terrorists now.

Oh man there so much to this band, you're gonna love it. Just do it chronologically. Like get Gold Against The Soul (Sleepflower and From Despair to Where?) and Holy Bible (Yes, Faster, PCP). By the time you've got into these albums and gone down in flames with "life is for the cold blooded and they are just lizards", you'll be ready for the victorious sound of Everything Must Go. Look out for The Masses Against The Classes as a single that might be on the Greatest Hits.

Warning: Holy Bible maybe detrimental to your health. Have a Keith Richards record as a companion to this one.

[Shuffle]

Motorcycle Emptiness is one of my favorite songs. A forgotten gem of the 90's..

I can't stop listening to this song now. The guitar melodies =

I've had this band on my to-do list for ages, but this thread has finally got me into gear. Right into Generation Terrorists now.

Oh man there so much to this band, you're gonna love it. Just do it chronologically. Like get Gold Against The Soul (Sleepflower and From Despair to Where?) and Holy Bible (Yes, Faster, PCP). By the time you've got into these albums and gone down in flames with "life is for the cold blooded and they are just lizards", you'll be ready for the victorious sound of Everything Must Go. Look out for The Masses Against The Classes as a single that might be on the Greatest Hits.

Warning: Holy Bible maybe detrimental to your health. Have a Keith Richards record as a companion to this one.

Yeah chronologically is probably the best way to go, even if I started with Send Away The Tigers and then Generation Terrorists. The Holy Bible is amazing but it's a pretty tough listen because it's really dark and depressing, it took me a while to get in to it...

Btw, have anyone heard their first single Suicide Alley? I've tried to find it on the net since only a few copies were released. If someone has an mp3 of it I'd be really greatful if you'd send me a pm

[appetite4illusions]

Wow, I've never heard these guys before. The guitar player is obviously Slash influenced. I'll have to check their stuff out.

[Kickingthehabit]

Motorcycle Emptiness is one of my favorite songs. A forgotten gem of the 90's..

I can't stop listening to this song now. The guitar melodies =

I've had this band on my to-do list for ages, but this thread has finally got me into gear. Right into Generation Terrorists now.

Generation Terrorists was meant to be the Manic Street Preachers' first and only album. Richey James Edwards, in particular, had a romanticized vision of making it big and instantly burning out. While this proved to not be the case, I'm certain this album would have been hailed a classic had they achieved any commercial success and met their self-encouraged demise..

They were one of the best bands of the 1990s, but naturally, no one knew..

-Kickingthehabit

[wasted]

Motorcycle Emptiness is one of my favorite songs. A forgotten gem of the 90's..

I can't stop listening to this song now. The guitar melodies =

I've had this band on my to-do list for ages, but this thread has finally got me into gear. Right into Generation Terrorists now.

Generation Terrorists was meant to be the Manic Street Preachers' first and only album. Richey James Edwards, in particular, had a romanticized vision of making it big and instantly burning out. While this proved to not be the case, I'm certain this album would have been hailed a classic had they achieved any commercial success and met their self-encouraged demise..

They were one of the best bands of the 1990s, but naturally, no one knew..

-Kickingthehabit

They are massive in UK.

But not internationally.

Generation Terrorists sold 100,000 copies; watch out VR, the record company (SONY) was happy and they went on to fulfill their contract. They wanted to outsell GNR and then quote "kill each other onstage with machine guns." It was part of them coming from a small village in the Welsh valleys, they needed to make a big noise to get heard at all. But they totally deconstructed rock n roll on Terrorists and where intelligent enough to express what they had to say.

They went to LA in 91(see: Manics Bomb Disneyland issue of Melody Maker) They played the Whisky I think. With Steve Jones?

Thinking about it GT is sort AFD and UYI combined. Theres fast songs and more epic ballads like Motorcycle emptiness, Little Baby Nothing (ft Tracii Lords the porn star) and Condemned to Rock N Roll (which is thier version of Coma)

Some of the best Rock music you will hear is on Gold Against The Soul. They toured with Bon Jovi in the US as a statement of seeling out before giving up and going all out on Holy bible.

Gold Against The Gold - went gold but it was against their principles. Holy Bible was like their farewell album. Richie just flat out lost it drinking a bottle of vodka everyday and went to the asylum after he spent a weekend cutting himslef in his apartment in cardiff.

He was like combination of Ian Curtis, Keef Richards and Iggy Pop. He slashed himself across the chest in Thailand, before getting a hand job from a prostitute. The lyrics on Holy Bible sound like manic ramblings but are just clear statements. Like Yes is about how everything's for sale. Even people. He was like investigating his fears. He was hella crazy. He was someone who turned internal feelings into external visually displays.

Amazing lyrics on 4st7lb and Faster (about how he's stronger than his heroes, faster in fact. He said "We have covered the whole of Rock N Roll from Rolling Stones to the Clash in 3 years, we're just part of a society that moves faster than an other in history." Then downed a bottle of vodka. This is untrue he actually drank slowly all day to feel numb, he rarely got drunk.

4st7lb - looks at his own anorexia and is about how he idolizes super skinny models and thats what he wanted to look like.

Kate and Kristen and Kit Kat

All things I like looking at

this is a genius line. if a bit morbid.

I could go on for years on this band. but I'll stop.

Send Away the Tigers is a party album compared to the early records.

Just buy all their albums.

[wasted]

Motorcycle Emptiness is one of my favorite songs. A forgotten gem of the 90's..

I can't stop listening to this song now. The guitar melodies =

I've had this band on my to-do list for ages, but this thread has finally got me into gear. Right into Generation Terrorists now.

Oh man there so much to this band, you're gonna love it. Just do it chronologically. Like get Gold Against The Soul (Sleepflower and From Despair to Where?) and Holy Bible (Yes, Faster, PCP). By the time you've got into these albums and gone down in flames with "life is for the cold blooded and they are just lizards", you'll be ready for the victorious sound of Everything Must Go. Look out for The Masses Against The Classes as a single that might be on the Greatest Hits.

Warning: Holy Bible maybe detrimental to your health. Have a Keith Richards record as a companion to this one.

Yeah chronologically is probably the best way to go, even if I started with Send Away The Tigers and then Generation Terrorists. The Holy Bible is amazing but it's a pretty tough listen because it's really dark and depressing, it took me a while to get in to it...

Btw, have anyone heard their first single Suicide Alley? I've tried to find it on the net since only a few copies were released. If someone has an mp3 of it I'd be really greatful if you'd send me a pm

I had suicide alley on a tape single of something (maybe motorcycle empti or Little Baby Nothing). Buts its locked away in a box somewhere. It's not really very good song. Its like they are 15 years old or something. maybe utube could get u a listen to it. I tried its not there. It's not even as good as Killin Time GNR song. I would try tracking down the versions of You Love Us, Stay Beautiful singles that were released on indie label Heavenly. Much more raw punk sound. You Love Us has an Lust For Life outro!!!

But just getting Lipstick Traces will get you enough Manics rareties for a lifetime. Like the song Donkeys.

What helps with holy Bible is reading the lyrics. It helps you understand where the song is at. This is Yesterday is a Nicky Wire song and not a Richie suicide song. Press always gets that wrong.

If HB too much for ya, head to Everything Must Go. This is there most commercial album but still has Richie songs on there Kevin Carter, Small Black Flowers in the Sky, Removables (lol) erm I think theres another one oh yes Elvis Impersonator: Five Miles High on Blackpool Tower.

I like Interiors on that album. Australia was used for football shows for a while. Very sports rock this album, as well as being dark, Phil Spectre wall of sound production. Masterpiece.

Also No Surface, All Feeling is a great song on Everything Must Go. Very epic.

Gold Against The Soul is sort of the band in Queen mode.

New Art Riot EP - has been released like Live like a suicide 4 songs. Not very listenable.

You could do worse than just getting the Greatest Hits.

It's a blockbuster of a collection. It has two extra tracks and The Masses against the Classes - which rocks like crazy.

Edited February 22, 2008 by wasted

[wasted]

http://www.manicstreetpreachers.com/07/lis...eadlines-page=1

Nick's Top 5 Crisps

Interesting read below.

'Send Away The Tigers' by Nicky Wire

The Manic Street Preachers have been through a process of destroying what we are.

All great bands do that... but ever since Everything Must Go and This Is My Truth we've been trying to reduce ourselves to a pile of rubble. So, for Send Away The Tigers, we've been listening back to Everything Must Go and even the youthful idealism of Generation Terrorists, placing ourselves back at being 18 or 21 again, and reconnecting with all the things that made us so excited back then. Cynicism is brilliant. But it gets to a point where it's not helpful when you're in a band.

Send Away The Tigers isn't a high concept album, but the theory behind it is important. We've written about 30 songs for this album, and we've been fiercely editing this time because in the past we'd perhaps put too much on some of our albums. These are the best ten songs. It's short... 38 minutes. When we started this album it was the three of us, in a rehearsal room, making a right old racket. Sometimes you have to learn from your own past. James playing huge guitar solos without me and Sean going, "Stop wanking!" We just felt liberated.

We began writing for the album in late 2005, and began recording in earnest in March 2006 with Dave Eringa. The album was recorded at Stir Studios in Cardiff and Grouse Lodge in County Westmeath in Ireland, finished in November 2006, and then mixed in California by Chris Lord-Alge (Green Day, My Chemical Romance).

At the same time, James and I released and performed our first solo albums, The Great Western and I Killed The Zeitgeist respectively. Doing the solo albums has been really important and really helpful in terms of letting us do the albums we wanted to do in a vain kind of way... and then realising what we're genuinely great at. Doing the few solo gigs that I did, meeting people and being stimulated and having loads of fun, I realised that The Manics had lost that element of fabulous disaster... the Technicolor moment of the Sex Pistols being so hilarious, as well as serious. The Clash and the Sex Pistols are our biggest inspirations. We've denied it for a long time. But they are. And on this album, we've gone back to source.

We never contemplated splitting. We didn't have a friction-based disaster because we're not those kind of people. But there was a general malaise. If we hadn't done that small tour after Lifeblood in late 2004, which reminded us what people like about us... I don't think we would have split up, because we get on too well, but we might have fizzled out. We've just announced our tour and this is the fastest our tickets have sold out in about ten years. That process of re-connecting is beginning.

Send Away The Tigers is a phrase the comedian Tony Hancock used whenever he started drinking. I saw a parallel between that line and the animals being released from the zoo in Baghdad when the Allies invaded. A misguided idea of liberation. Also that idea of being haunted by a wrong decision. With Hancock it was sacking his writers. And, if it weren't for the Iraq war, for all his faults, in historical terms, Tony Blair would be seen as a great Prime Minister. Now his life is utterly ruined. On a smaller scale, certain things I've said which have been stupid and inane... they're what I'm gonna be remembered for.

As far as my lyrics on the album are concerned, I just realised that being angry was a good thing. As long as I could control it, make it less nihilistic than my solo album. I Killed The Zeitgeist gave me an opportunity to embrace nihilism in all its beauty. I thought if I could just take all those elements and be less afraid of having some really important words. Because you do get scared, when everything around you is so on the surface and light. Every alternative band has just been sucked into nothingness. Everyone's jaded. When we started we thought the most shocking thing we could do, because of indie snobbery, was say that we wanted to be like Bruce Springsteen and The Clash... we wanna be huge. Our oddness was our normalness. Now, hopefully, it's our idealism - the John Lydon idea that anger is an energy - that's gonna separate us. You have to be direct.

The Guilty Pleasures thing has also had a bearing, especially with James who knows Sean Rowley very well. Guilty Pleasures did that classic thing of making you feel better about some of the records you like. We love classic radio records by The Eagles, Boston and REO Speedwagon, and we wanted to get back to that, but with our obvious lyrical bent. Autumnsong, in particular... James was really trying to deconstruct that song at one point because it was so obvious that it was Sweet Child O' Mine and Aerosmith's I See You Crying. And I just had to sit him down at one point and say, "if it sounds like you're ripping off Slash... it's a good thing. It's what you are." From that moment on, we didn't really have to work on anything. It just came naturally. We talked about not being afraid to be a tad clichéd. When we play live, we are a cliché - we play Paradise City and get up on the Marshall stacks. The hook line "Baby what you done to your hair?" is really close to an Aerosmith song. But it's a song about being young and connecting with something you love... a girl, a record you want to play twenty times in a row. Things that give you the power to go outside and believe you can actually do something. You get drenched in paranoia, being in a band. And it's stupid. Being in a rock 'n' roll band is just a euphoric kick.

Sean has written a lot more of the music with James this time around. And I wrote half of the music for the first single, Your Love Alone Is Not Enough, which features Nina Persson of The Cardigans, who I think are one of the great underrated bands and I love her voice. It's a complicated lyric. What it's trying to say on one level is that any single element is never enough for a country to survive. You can't solely have religion, or love, or democracy. We need all these elements for any country to be coherent. It is also about people and specifically, suicide. There are just too many people I've known who have killed themselves. James was like, "Great. Another fucking song about suicide! I thought you did all that on your solo album?" I guess people will assume it is about Richey too. He was in a successful band, he could have had a nice girlfriend if he wanted, and we all loved him. But... it wasn't enough. Whether its suicide or not, obviously, we don't know. But... there's a line in there: "I could have seen for miles and miles/I could've shown you how to smile/I could've shown you how to cry"... it's just that feeling of regret. Could someone have done more?

As for Rendition... when The CIA fly people somewhere to be tortured they call it "extraordinary rendition". I found that really weird. With Guantanamo Bay, America found a place in Cuba - their greatest enemy! - Which they got hold of somehow, which is even weirder, and this place is above the law, and then they take it to the sky, which is also above the law. Take 'em to Uzbekistan, torture 'em there. It's such a bizarre concept for a country that prides itself on this mythical bullshit called "the rule of law". What are they gonna do next, build a prison camp on the moon? The song's also about the actor Jack Lemmon. Because of the person he was and the films he made in the '70s like The China Syndrome and Missing... he was the America we respected. The line in there, "Oh my God! I sound like a liberal!" is to give it all some kind of sense of humour. This album is serious. But it's important for me to say, "It's only me talking... what does it matter?" If you get it, you get it. But if you don't, you don't.

I'm Just A Patsy is along the same lines. No-one has given us credit for a sense of humour since This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours. When you get big, you can get po-faced and serious, and we've been guilty of that. But if you know us as people... I mean, look at what I wear onstage! I understand why people think we've got no sense of humour, because we were just so bizarre and ridiculous when we started that we could get away with anything.

Imperial Bodybags is another view of America. We castigate Americans as thick, evangelical idiots and it's unfair. So the song is just about the obvious - when an American soldier comes home from Iraq in a coffin, his people feel it just as bad as anyone else's. Not everyone is an American Idiot. It's also about the massacre of the Russian royal family in the Bolshevik revolution. I've spent half my life believing that was a good thing. As you get older you wonder if it's just one evil replacing another. And the song is pure rockabilly... "Brand New Cadillac" and The Stray Cats' "Runaway Boys".

We've included our cover of John Lennon's Working Class Hero as a hidden track. I really got into Plastic Ono Band when I was doing my solo album. This song is a witty, sardonic, genius lyric, with three chords, easy to play. And it just seemed really applicable. There aren't many bands anymore that come from a working-class background because there is less class-consciousness in Britain now. Maybe that's a good thing. But the song just fitted naturally into the scheme of things.

Indian Summer does refer to what I hope The Manics are having. That's the purpose, really. There's no point carrying on if we don't. We've had a brilliant career, but most of all, we've stayed amazing friends, which in rock 'n' roll, is very rare. The song has the same beat as A Design For Life I think we're the only band that does that kind of waltz. The lyrics are really joyous and uplifting. It's about friendship, really... really un-Manics things, 'cos we hate things like pride and friendship... its all so Bono.

But friendship's seen us through a lot, and that must count for something. When the three of us are together, there's no real feeling like it that we can get anywhere else. You can say anything no matter how foul or bad and no one takes it that seriously, you work things out together. It's not like we go drinking or take drugs together. We just sit, talk or not talk, watch, read, listen. It's a beautiful thing.

On this record, James is trying to fit a lot of words into a line again. I didn't tailor anything for him. On Send Away The Tigers he's literally out of breath by the time he gets to the chorus. I used to worry about my words not being heard or understood. A lot. But that's been to our detriment. Because when we don't worry, we make 'If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next' which is our biggest song round the world. And it's impossible to understand that record.

There's an essence to certain things, which you can't explain. Perhaps that's why, on Send Away The Tigers, we've decided not to be ashamed of what we're good at.

[wasted]

Here's a Guns N Roses reference from the piece.

"James was really trying to deconstruct that song (autumnsong) at one point because it was so obvious that it was Sweet Child O' Mine and Aerosmith's I See You Crying. And I just had to sit him down at one point and say, "if it sounds like you're ripping off Slash... it's a good thing. It's what you are." From that moment on, we didn't really have to work on anything. It just came naturally. We talked about not being afraid to be a tad clichéd. When we play live, we are a cliché - we play Paradise City and get up on the Marshall stacks. The hook line "Baby what you done to your hair?" is really close to an Aerosmith song. But it's a song about being young and connecting with something you love... a girl, a record you want to play twenty times in a row. Things that give you the power to go outside and believe you can actually do something. You get drenched in paranoia, being in a band. And it's stupid. Being in a rock 'n' roll band is just a euphoric kick."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDg9TmsqUPQ

I am Just A Patsy (Live)

I saw them on this tour

Edited February 22, 2008 by wasted

[Shuffle]

Wow wasted! You're obviously a huge Manics fan

I've got the You Love Us single downloaded, it's great. I haven't heard the Heavenly version of Stay Beautiful, gotta look it up. I've been trying to find other stuff from them, you know b-sides etc. I've got Lipstick Traces and it's great but I wanna hear all of the b-sides (especially the ones recorded before Richie disappeared) but I've only been able to find the ones from Send Away The Tigers and the ones on Lipstick Traces unfortunately...

And I definitely agree that the lyrics on the Holy Bible are genius, they're very heavy and pretty hard to understand at times but they're awesome... And I also agree about Generation Terrorists being Appetite/UYI, the only thing that sort of ruins it is the same thing that ruins the Illusions: the production, which is way to polished imo.

EDIT: That version of I'm Just A Patsy is awesome Btw, do you know who plays the rhythm guitar live nowadays?

Edited February 22, 2008 by izzystradlin'

[Gash]

I've only really got into the "Holy Bible" album. I should really check out "Generation Terrorists" sooner or later really.

I see their later stuff and it just makes me cringe.