Slash Guitarist Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 He died on my 3rd birthday.... the strange thing is that the earliest memory I have is my 3rd birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 As a musician, I found him to be mediocre.As a person, lets just say this he was no role model.As Barkely said: Parents should be role models.......not parents and musicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlin08 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 As a musician, I found him to be mediocre.As a person, lets just say this he was no role model.As Barkely said: Parents should be role models.......not parents and musicians.Yeah, and for Francis Bean... he sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 As a musician, I found him to be mediocre.As a person, lets just say this he was no role model.As Barkely said: Parents should be role models.......not parents and musicians.Yeah, and for Francis Bean... he sucked.You're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Rambler Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Its bad that he died, i feel sorry for the poor guy and for his daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I don't think you guys have the right to criticize him for committing suicide and thus being a bad father until you've been in the situation where both your physical and mental pain is as big as Kurt's was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean-16 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 didnt like him at all.was never a fan of nirvana either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifer Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I don't think you guys have the right to criticize him for committing suicide and thus being a bad father until you've been in the situation where both your physical and mental pain is as big as Kurt's was.I've always viewed Kurt and his wife Courtney as lowlifes. They were not good people. They both did drugs at their child's expense. Anyone with any sense would find that to be sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKKDARK Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 One of the greatest talents and musicians the world has ever seen. RIP.Tommy Bolin? Yes. Randy Rhoads? Yes. Kurt Cobain? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 One of the greatest talents and musicians the world has ever seen. RIP.Tommy Bolin? Yes. Randy Rhoads? Yes. Kurt Cobain? No.You can't deny the brilliance of the music and lyrics he wrote just because you don't like it. Few people have had the great ear for pop that Cobain had. I understand why you think those two guys aforementioned are so great; they are great musicians, but they didn't have that particular gift that Kurt was born with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) I don't think you guys have the right to criticize him for committing suicide and thus being a bad father until you've been in the situation where both your physical and mental pain is as big as Kurt's was.Oh please.He chose the life he led--He chose to make a big record deal with Geffen, he chose to make music videos, he chose to go on MTV, he chose to have interviews and act like the big role model type, he chose to pump the heroin into his veins, he chose to suck on the shotgun, he chose to leave Frances fatherless like he was. Nobody forced any of these things on him; they were all things he willingly did and accepted. If he was truly a punk or a rebel, he could've made his way by just playing the music, doing the club scene, letting the music speak for itself (a label is not the only way to reach people) not getting a deal with what was the most commercial and biggest rock record label at the time. That's selling out.I'm sure living with Courtney he knew what a psychotic bitch she was, yet he wasn't strong enough not to leave his baby daughter alone with that drug addled lunatic. Edited April 11, 2008 by Honky Chateau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) I don't think you guys have the right to criticize him for committing suicide and thus being a bad father until you've been in the situation where both your physical and mental pain is as big as Kurt's was.Oh please.He chose the life he led--He chose to make a big record deal with Geffen, he chose to make music videos, he chose to go on MTV, he chose to have interviews and act like the big role model type, he chose to pump the heroin into his veins, he chose to suck on the shotgun, he chose to leave Frances fatherless like he was. I'm sure living with Courtney he knew what a psychotic bitch she was, yet he wasn't strong enough not to leave his baby daughter alone with that drug addled psychopath.When did I say that he didn't choose all that? All I said was that you shouldn't criticize someone for making certain decisions without either knowing or experiencing what lead to those decisions. Edited April 11, 2008 by Lithium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopeSickGirl Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Takes balls to kill yourself - and I should know, I've tried and failed many times. Definitely not the easy way out.There's a certain phase you need to be in, just before rock bottom.Being rock bottom is a very liberating feeling, whereas just before it is a crushing, soul destroying pit.The man needed help which he was unwilling to accept, he escaped instead.Its so sad he chose to die rather than carry on making music for the rest of the world, but he killed himself because something became unbearable, whether he brought it upon himself or not, he deserved the choice. No-one has the right to criticize his choice, Frances has done just fine without him. She probably doesn't even remember him to miss him.RIP, Kurt. xDSGx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Wow people, if you don't like Kurt or have anything to respect his death than fuck off, how is that not hard? this is not a "Is Kurt Cobain a good muscian/person or not" thread, if it was I wouldn't care but this is total bullshit, Respect the dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Just because someone cannot bring themselves to blowing their brains out, or whatever method of suicide they are debating on, doesn't mean anything. One who kills themselves has taken the easy way out because life is to hard to deal with.Grow a set of balls, and get through whatever it is that you are dealing with. Especailly when you have a child at home. I will never respect Cobain, as a human, just for this reason. Live Life Stronger Than All. Again though, as a song writer, I can totally respect what he did. Four studio albums that are fucking amazing under his belt, and a live album that is better than any live album I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. Yes I just said that. Unplugged is brilliant.Wow people, if you don't like Kurt or have anything to respect his death than fuck off, how is that not hard? this is not a "Is Kurt Cobain a good muscian/person or not" thread, if it was I wouldn't care but this is total bullshit, Respect the dead.As for this, I have to say, I do understand what you mean, but I have a hard time understanding why there were less comments like this in my R.I.P Dimebag thread. Why respect someone just because they are dead? If they were a shitty humanbeing, what's the point of respecting them now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifer Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I don't think you guys have the right to criticize him for committing suicide and thus being a bad father until you've been in the situation where both your physical and mental pain is as big as Kurt's was.Oh please.He chose the life he led--He chose to make a big record deal with Geffen, he chose to make music videos, he chose to go on MTV, he chose to have interviews and act like the big role model type, he chose to pump the heroin into his veins, he chose to suck on the shotgun, he chose to leave Frances fatherless like he was. I'm sure living with Courtney he knew what a psychotic bitch she was, yet he wasn't strong enough not to leave his baby daughter alone with that drug addled psychopath.When did I say that he didn't choose all that? All I said was that you shouldn't criticize someone for making certain decisions without either knowing or experiencing what lead to those decisions.He left an indelible last message to his fans that the easy out is to blow your fucking head off. Imagine how many of his fans followed his path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) Just because someone cannot bring themselves to blowing their brains out, or whatever method of suicide they are debating on, doesn't mean anything. One who kills themselves has taken the easy way out because life is to hard to deal with.Grow a set of balls, and get through whatever it is that you are dealing with. Especailly when you have a child at home. I will never respect Cobain, as a human, just for this reason. Live Life Stronger Than All. Again though, as a song writer, I can totally respect what he did. Four studio albums that are fucking amazing under his belt, and a live album that is better than any live album I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. Yes I just said that. Unplugged is brilliant.Wow people, if you don't like Kurt or have anything to respect his death than fuck off, how is that not hard? this is not a "Is Kurt Cobain a good muscian/person or not" thread, if it was I wouldn't care but this is total bullshit, Respect the dead.As for this, I have to say, I do understand what you mean, but I have a hard time understanding why there were less comments like this in my R.I.P Dimebag thread. Why respect someone just because they are dead? If they were a shitty humanbeing, what's the point of respecting them now?Because he WAS a human being, if i saw your dimebag thread I would have said the same thing, if you want to know how i feel about Kobain I think he is an arrogant self centered drama queen poser who is an asshole to boot, but he was still a human being, and he still wrote great music, I can't deny that, and he still had a soul, I can't deny that either, that should be enough to at least respect him enough to stop bickering about him, if you have nothng nice to say at all then why post in this thread? I believe in the man upstairs and I don't think enternity in hell is a just punishment for anyone, plus he's never done anything to me. So I say rest in peace to all who have died hoping that they will, in fact enjoy the benifiets of heaven and see and fix their sins, whatever they may be, he is a human being and so I say rest in peace Kurt Cobain Edited April 11, 2008 by NormalGuns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifer Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 One of the greatest talents and musicians the world has ever seen. RIP.Tommy Bolin? Yes. Randy Rhoads? Yes. Kurt Cobain? No.You can't deny the brilliance of the music and lyrics he wrote just because you don't like it. Few people have had the great ear for pop that Cobain had. I understand why you think those two guys aforementioned are so great; they are great musicians, but they didn't have that particular gift that Kurt was born with.I hate how you nu-nirvana fans act like kurt cobain was the second coming of christ. Let me tell you something, the real nirvana fans(people that were fans back in nirvanas prime.) Don't act like you guys. They actually have enough sense to realize that kurt was not God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornrose Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 One of the most talented musicians ever my ass!! The guy barely knew 3 chords (admitted that himself), and he barely knew how to tune a guitar. The only reason he's considered so great is because he died while Nirvana was still hot shit. Putting that bullet through his head was the best thing to do to secure his spot as a legend. He'd probably be playing fairs if he was still around.You want a talented musician from that era then refer to Layne Staley. That guy had more talent in his pinky fingernail than Cobain had in his whole body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifer Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 The only reason he's considered so great is because he died while Nirvana was still hot shit.Actually nirvana was on the verge of fading out shortly before kc died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornrose Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 The only reason he's considered so great is because he died while Nirvana was still hot shit.Actually nirvana was on the verge of fading out shortly before kc died.Were you even around then? They were still pretty popular when he offed himself. They were set to headline Lollapalooza that year. In Utero was still selling strong. I believe they would've faded out soon thereafter, Kurt probably did too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 The only reason he's considered so great is because he died while Nirvana was still hot shit.Actually nirvana was on the verge of fading out shortly before kc died.Were you even around then? They were still pretty popular when he offed himself. They were set to headline Lollapalooza that year. In Utero was still selling strong. I believe they would've faded out soon thereafter, Kurt probably did too.Which makes them a fad. Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, the Rolling Stones; their popularity never faded. Why? Cause they're legends, not passing angsty teenage fads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifer Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 The only reason he's considered so great is because he died while Nirvana was still hot shit.Actually nirvana was on the verge of fading out shortly before kc died.Were you even around then? They were still pretty popular when he offed himself. They were set to headline Lollapalooza that year. In Utero was still selling strong. I believe they would've faded out soon thereafter, Kurt probably did too.Dude, I was an adult during that time. Trust me after unplugged in ny nirvana began to decline in popularity. Trust me I was into what was going on during that time.The only reason he's considered so great is because he died while Nirvana was still hot shit.Actually nirvana was on the verge of fading out shortly before kc died.Were you even around then? They were still pretty popular when he offed himself. They were set to headline Lollapalooza that year. In Utero was still selling strong. I believe they would've faded out soon thereafter, Kurt probably did too.Which makes them a fad. Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, the Rolling Stones; their popularity never faded. Why? Cause they're legends, not passing angsty teenage fads.Even God would've forgot who he was if he didn't commit suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 You people are hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifer Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 You people are hopeless.Not nearly as hopeless as most nirvana fans, who can't seem to understand that kc is one of the most overrated figures in the history of music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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