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Anyway, it doesn't seem healthy to me that she feeds into his delusions and manipulates his mental illness for her benefit. I mean she's no manager, come on.

What on earth are these delusions do you speak of? And the second part is a pretty scathing point of view towards a woman who Axl credits with keeping him on the right track and she really seems to care for him.

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Anyway, it doesn't seem healthy to me that she feeds into his delusions and manipulates his mental illness for her benefit. I mean she's no manager, come on.

What on earth are these delusions do you speak of? And the second part is a pretty scathing point of view towards a woman who Axl credits with keeping him on the right track and she really seems to care for him.

What delusions? I can't even, it would take too long.

Maybe she does care for him, but she also gets a lot from him doesn't she? She started off as a housekeeper, but she wound up raising her kids in Axl's palatial home and is now his manager. As to the person above who stated it's none of our business, that's ridiculous. He's a celebrity, it's an odd thing to see a rock star take his psuedo mother figure everywhere he goes. Do you hang out with your mother? It pretty much invites commentary.

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But it's none of YOUR business about the ins and outs of their relationship unless they make it otherwise so clowning her won't get you any points other than with other folks or "fans" who don't give a hoot about Axl and and are only in the business of one upping each other by clowning him and masquerading that as "concern and disappointment", I mean it's not as if she'll go away anytime soon whether you like it or not. Folks think everything Axl does is their business, don't get the days of NR twisted, no the days of him being out with his business in the air is over. So of course it's gonna seem strange, he rarely discuss anything lol!

On another note I'd wish folks would stop referring her as his mom (though it's in good nature) cause you'll open up rude floodgates such as the comment above who'll condescendingly refer her as that as a counter statement. Then again I should get bothered after all Kira, at least you didn't call her a bitch on her birthday on her b-day thread a few weeks back like someone did. Folks wonder why Axl has a sometimey view of some fans and why "whomever" paid for this whole forum was seemingly reluctant to do so.

I'm not clowing, I'm being serious. The influence that Beta has over Axl is very suspect. Why should fans have any Beta threads on a GnR forum? Why should I care what this woman thinks? I've seen her come on this board some years ago, swearing and threatening people, it was absurd.

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from Stadium Live facebook, seems like Axl is or was at a hospital, and behind he is Beta.

ALSO, posted on Stadium Live facebook , Russian to English : Friends, we want to refute the rumors of serious injury Axel - minor injury and did not interfere with the group to continue the tour. Only the representatives of the press service of Stadium Live personally escorted Rose to accept a trauma surgeon and made sure that the actor in shape and in good spirits.

Geez, can't he go anywhere without his "mommy".

its his business manager. when he's out doing greets or on the way to a gig, i'd imagine she's gonna be there.

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398777_311710705571524_279971465412115_672144_540336038_n.jpg

from Stadium Live facebook, seems like Axl is or was at a hospital, and behind he is Beta.

ALSO, posted on Stadium Live facebook , Russian to English : Friends, we want to refute the rumors of serious injury Axel - minor injury and did not interfere with the group to continue the tour. Only the representatives of the press service of Stadium Live personally escorted Rose to accept a trauma surgeon and made sure that the actor in shape and in good spirits.

Geez, can't he go anywhere without his "mommy".

its his business manager. when he's out doing greets or on the way to a gig, i'd imagine she's gonna be there.

What experience does she have as a business manager? She's pretty much with Axl all the time, not just public appearances. They live in the same house, she goes to nightclubs with him, shopping etc etc. it's weird.

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from Stadium Live facebook, seems like Axl is or was at a hospital, and behind he is Beta.

ALSO, posted on Stadium Live facebook , Russian to English : Friends, we want to refute the rumors of serious injury Axel - minor injury and did not interfere with the group to continue the tour. Only the representatives of the press service of Stadium Live personally escorted Rose to accept a trauma surgeon and made sure that the actor in shape and in good spirits.

Geez, can't he go anywhere without his "mommy".

its his business manager. when he's out doing greets or on the way to a gig, i'd imagine she's gonna be there.

What experience does she have as a business manager? She's pretty much with Axl all the time, not just public appearances. They live in the same house, she goes to nightclubs with him, shopping etc etc. it's weird.

It's weird that you focus on her so much. I don't really see how it effects you in the least how others want to live their lives, but whatever. As long as it makes you happy.

Still weird though.

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from Stadium Live facebook, seems like Axl is or was at a hospital, and behind he is Beta.

ALSO, posted on Stadium Live facebook , Russian to English : Friends, we want to refute the rumors of serious injury Axel - minor injury and did not interfere with the group to continue the tour. Only the representatives of the press service of Stadium Live personally escorted Rose to accept a trauma surgeon and made sure that the actor in shape and in good spirits.

Geez, can't he go anywhere without his "mommy".

its his business manager. when he's out doing greets or on the way to a gig, i'd imagine she's gonna be there.

What experience does she have as a business manager? She's pretty much with Axl all the time, not just public appearances. They live in the same house, she goes to nightclubs with him, shopping etc etc. it's weird.

It's weird that you focus on her so much. I don't really see how it effects you in the least how others want to live their lives, but whatever. As long as it makes you happy.

Still weird though.

Whatever man, obviously it doesn't affect me personally, but when a mature man chooses to live and spend all his time with his "mother", I'm not going to act like it's normal. Some of you are just intent on rationalizing everything Axl does. It doesn't make any sense.

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from Stadium Live facebook, seems like Axl is or was at a hospital, and behind he is Beta.

ALSO, posted on Stadium Live facebook , Russian to English : Friends, we want to refute the rumors of serious injury Axel - minor injury and did not interfere with the group to continue the tour. Only the representatives of the press service of Stadium Live personally escorted Rose to accept a trauma surgeon and made sure that the actor in shape and in good spirits.

Geez, can't he go anywhere without his "mommy".

its his business manager. when he's out doing greets or on the way to a gig, i'd imagine she's gonna be there.

What experience does she have as a business manager? She's pretty much with Axl all the time, not just public appearances. They live in the same house, she goes to nightclubs with him, shopping etc etc. it's weird.

It's weird that you focus on her so much. I don't really see how it effects you in the least how others want to live their lives, but whatever. As long as it makes you happy.

Still weird though.

Whatever man, obviously it doesn't affect me personally, but when a mature man chooses to live and spend all his time with his "mother", I'm not going to act like it's normal. Some of you are just intent on rationalizing everything Axl does. It doesn't make any sense.

Wrong. Some of us just don't care. I have no need to rationalize it because it doesn't effect me.

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But it's none of YOUR business about the ins and outs of their relationship unless they make it otherwise so clowning her won't get you any points other than with other folks or "fans" who don't give a hoot about Axl and and are only in the business of one upping each other by clowning him and masquerading that as "concern and disappointment", I mean it's not as if she'll go away anytime soon whether you like it or not. Folks think everything Axl does is their business, don't get the days of NR twisted, no the days of him being out with his business in the air is over. So of course it's gonna seem strange, he rarely discuss anything lol!

On another note I'd wish folks would stop referring her as his mom (though it's in good nature) cause you'll open up rude floodgates such as the comment above who'll condescendingly refer her as that as a counter statement. Then again I should get bothered after all Kira, at least you didn't call her a bitch on her birthday on her b-day thread a few weeks back like someone did. Folks wonder why Axl has a sometimey view of some fans and why "whomever" paid for this whole forum was seemingly reluctant to do so.

Axl calls her his mother, so in my opinion it's respectful when others call her Beta, his manager or his mother, because those three positions are taken by her.

I understand chineseconrad, but others around here and elsewhere take it as another opportunity (how original) to clown both or either Axl or Beta

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But it's none of YOUR business about the ins and outs of their relationship unless they make it otherwise so clowning her won't get you any points other than with other folks or "fans" who don't give a hoot about Axl and and are only in the business of one upping each other by clowning him and masquerading that as "concern and disappointment", I mean it's not as if she'll go away anytime soon whether you like it or not. Folks think everything Axl does is their business, don't get the days of NR twisted, no the days of him being out with his business in the air is over. So of course it's gonna seem strange, he rarely discuss anything lol!

On another note I'd wish folks would stop referring her as his mom (though it's in good nature) cause you'll open up rude floodgates such as the comment above who'll condescendingly refer her as that as a counter statement. Then again I should get bothered after all Kira, at least you didn't call her a bitch on her birthday on her b-day thread a few weeks back like someone did. Folks wonder why Axl has a sometimey view of some fans and why "whomever" paid for this whole forum was seemingly reluctant to do so.

Axl calls her his mother, so in my opinion it's respectful when others call her Beta, his manager or his mother, because those three positions are taken by her.

I understand chineseconrad, but others around here and elsewhere take it as another opportunity (how original) to clown both or either Axl or Beta

Because they'll never get close to Axl or Beta. Never get close to what Axl and Beta have done. Jealousy.

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from Stadium Live facebook, seems like Axl is or was at a hospital, and behind he is Beta.

ALSO, posted on Stadium Live facebook , Russian to English : Friends, we want to refute the rumors of serious injury Axel - minor injury and did not interfere with the group to continue the tour. Only the representatives of the press service of Stadium Live personally escorted Rose to accept a trauma surgeon and made sure that the actor in shape and in good spirits.

Geez, can't he go anywhere without his "mommy".

its his business manager. when he's out doing greets or on the way to a gig, i'd imagine she's gonna be there.

What experience does she have as a business manager? She's pretty much with Axl all the time, not just public appearances. They live in the same house, she goes to nightclubs with him, shopping etc etc. it's weird.

Do they live in the same house :question: I thought the Leibis family had their own place on his property going by media reports back when the bushfires went through.

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from Stadium Live facebook, seems like Axl is or was at a hospital, and behind he is Beta.

ALSO, posted on Stadium Live facebook , Russian to English : Friends, we want to refute the rumors of serious injury Axel - minor injury and did not interfere with the group to continue the tour. Only the representatives of the press service of Stadium Live personally escorted Rose to accept a trauma surgeon and made sure that the actor in shape and in good spirits.

Geez, can't he go anywhere without his "mommy".

its his business manager. when he's out doing greets or on the way to a gig, i'd imagine she's gonna be there.

What experience does she have as a business manager? She's pretty much with Axl all the time, not just public appearances. They live in the same house, she goes to nightclubs with him, shopping etc etc. it's weird.

Do they live in the same house :question: I thought the Leibis family had their own place on his property going by media reports back when the bushfires went through.

She was his spiritual advisor at one time. There's nothing wrong with her going places with him.

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Ok---he fell--it's an accident----he's human-------we all are.....he is still and always will be a brilliant musician. All the great rock bands and public figures have moments like this......Lock this thread and send it to the TMZ idiots !!!!!!!

It's hard enough when Drs speak in medical terms to you but imagine in Russian!! Must have either had a translator or they speak English there now :o

Would love to see the footage of him dancing on the table but not the fall itself - hate to see people in such pain as he would have been. :(

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