A good woman in Axl's life

[Dariablue]

Lol. I don't care if you answer mine. Your attempt to play devil's advocate is a thinly disguised veil of intolerance and you try to put out this high and mighty and above it all "I'm so worldly in my views and progressively forward" stance when really you're the opposite. Then you make attempts to excuse Axl's behavior and say the the rest of us are merely assuming facts not in evidence when I reality that's all anyone can do because it's a message board and we don't actually know these people. What we do know is their actions, how they've reacted and behaved in certain past scenarios and we can use those as springboards if you will to assume what might be. You don't seem to be able to do that, which makes you just another apologist.

My views in feminism have been stated time and time again on this board. Once again you're trying to pull things from thin air. You have topic ADD.

Edited September 16, 2013 by Dariablue

[Angelica]

It's interesting how people discuss if Axl would be a good father based on no first hand knowledge or even current knowledge. And on a site he might read nonetheless! I don't understand coming into his world and being so loathing. The type of person that sounds not to be the best parent is one that is so hyper-critical and full of judgment.

This woman has many children and still poses nude showing full frontal where they and all their friends can see the images and you doubt that she did another depraved act long ago where drugs were involved?

It isn't like kids know what their parents are doing but to think it isn't one of those things that happens on the road to self-destruction is too innocent.

Out of context because I was playing Devil's advocate. The premise was that theory was so far-fetched that an act like that can happen and the person who brings it to light is a liar.

No, it wasn't. The premise was that the coke party story remains entirely unsubstantiated. Don't know if it happened, don't care, but if you're going to repeat it as fact you better be able to back it up with more than 'well she posed nude a lot, so she's capable of anything!'. Edited September 16, 2013 by Angelica

[ohlovelyrita]

So...you think Steph's posing nude is soft core porn? If that isn't what you're saying, then you once again are bringing things into discussion that had no bearing on the current topic. You're like the female dalsh.

Answer my last two questions and i'll gladly answer yours. Only you can go off topic then? No reason for insults in an adult discussion. Have I insulted you?

[Dariablue]

So...you think Steph's posing nude is soft core porn? If that isn't what you're saying, then you once again are bringing things into discussion that had no bearing on the current topic. You're like the female dalsh.

Answer my last two questions and i'll gladly answer yours. Only you can go off topic then? No reason for insults in an adult discussion. Have I insulted you?

Except I'm not going off topic. I'm trying to direct you back on topic, which is proving to be somewhat difficult.

"Adult discussion"? Being overly judgmental and trying to divert the conversation is adult discussion to you?

[ohlovelyrita]

It's interesting how people discuss if Axl would be a good father based on no first hand knowledge or even current knowledge. And on a site he might read nonetheless! I don't understand coming into his world and being so loathing. The type of person that sounds not to be the best parent is one that is so hyper-critical and full of judgment.

This woman has many children and still poses nude showing full frontal where they and all their friends can see the images and you doubt that she did another depraved act long ago where drugs were involved?

It isn't like kids know what their parents are doing but to think it isn't one of those things that happens on the road to self-destruction is too innocent.

Out of context because I was playing Devil's advocate. The premise was that theory was so far-fetched that an act like that can happen and the person who brings it to light is a liar.

No, it wasn't. The premise was that the coke party story remains entirely unsubstantiated. Don't know if it happened, don't care, but if you're going to repeat it as fact you better be able to back it up with more than 'well she posed nude a lot, so she's capable of anything!'.

I never said it was fact. See my comment above one comment away. " I was playing Devil's advocate. The premise was that theory was so far-fetched that an act like that can happen and the person who brings it to light is a liar."

Moving on....

[ohlovelyrita]

So...you think Steph's posing nude is soft core porn? If that isn't what you're saying, then you once again are bringing things into discussion that had no bearing on the current topic. You're like the female dalsh.

Answer my last two questions and i'll gladly answer yours. Only you can go off topic then? No reason for insults in an adult discussion. Have I insulted you?

Except I'm not going off topic. I'm trying to direct you back on topic, which is proving to be somewhat difficult.

"Adult discussion"? Being overly judgmental and trying to divert the conversation is adult discussion to you?

I didn't answer question yet as you have ignored mine but you still called me "judgmental" nonetheless. Shouldn't you have waited to get my answer?

I have answered it already above. I have been in a program mentoring young girls and that's where some of my opinion/concern comes from.

So why are those pictures I described wiped off the face of the internet? Is it possible because they were not appropriate? I can't be the only one of that opinion then and

I applaud them for doing so if it was a mistake and they corrected it. Jumping off this topic since it is not my concern, inbox me if you need a reply.

Edited September 16, 2013 by ohlovelyrita

[Dariablue]

I don't need a reply. Thanks though.

And yes, based on your previous posts in this thread you are incredibly judgmental. I don't know what shoot you're referencing, but I doubt the reason that you can find it online is because it's indecent. The amount of porn and the broad array of it online is proof alone of that.

[ohlovelyrita]

I don't need a reply. Thanks though.

And yes, based on your previous posts in this thread you are incredibly judgmental. I don't know what shoot you're referencing, but I doubt the reason that you can find it online is because it's indecent. The amount of porn and the broad array of it online is proof alone of that.

You have told me many time I am judgmental while you have judged me over and over on one point of contention. It is also fine by me if my opinion is not accepted here. I support young girls self-esteem so I have standards of what is art and what is soft porn photography.

Should I judge you by assuming you spend loads of time discussing Axl's exes and none are spent on non-celebrities Aung San Suu Kyi? Nope, I shouldn't because it's the missing information that stops me from judging.

Edited September 16, 2013 by ohlovelyrita

[Dariablue]

Judge away. Everyone is judgmental. You're just denying you are and attempting to be morally superior, which is funny to me. That's all.

[CoolRanchDressing]

If she breast fed her kids you could also make a strong case for her being a child molester.

Edited September 16, 2013 by CoolRanchDressing

[Apollo]

Judge away. Everyone is judgmental. You're just denying you are and attempting to be morally superior, which is funny to me. That's all.

Daria, you aren't going to get a satisfactory answer from Rita. Go read some of her posts in Anything Goes. She is crazy. She isn't here to have an "adult" conversation with you or anybody else, but instead to forcefeed her wacky ideas on people and then play the innocent victim when somebody disagrees with her. She does it in pretty much every topic she's in. She's basically the female version of somebody whose initials are SM.

[ohlovelyrita]

Judge away. Everyone is judgmental. You're just denying you are and attempting to be morally superior, which is funny to me. That's all.

Daria, you aren't going to get a satisfactory answer from Rita. Go read some of her posts in Anything Goes. She is crazy. She isn't here to have an "adult" conversation with you or anybody else, but instead to forcefeed her wacky ideas on people and then play the innocent victim when somebody disagrees with her. She does it in pretty much every topic she's in. She's basically the female version of somebody whose initials are SM.

I have never even spoken to you here to my knowledge but will report you if you continue as a pattern. I know you are friends with the folks who bothered me for many months unprovoked no matter what you think.

Daria- I didn't understand your #83 statement. The shoot does seem to be taken down because it was bad for the woman's image if that answers your question. That's a proactive move not a criticism.

[Aninha_Hudson]

Warchild is back?

[Apollo]

Judge away. Everyone is judgmental. You're just denying you are and attempting to be morally superior, which is funny to me. That's all.

Daria, you aren't going to get a satisfactory answer from Rita. Go read some of her posts in Anything Goes. She is crazy. She isn't here to have an "adult" conversation with you or anybody else, but instead to forcefeed her wacky ideas on people and then play the innocent victim when somebody disagrees with her. She does it in pretty much every topic she's in. She's basically the female version of somebody whose initials are SM.

I have never even spoken to you here to my knowledge but will report you if you continue as a pattern. I know you are friends with the folks who bothered me for many months unprovoked no matter what you think.

Daria- I didn't understand your #83 statement. The shoot does seem to be taken down because it was bad for the woman's image if that answers your question. That's a proactive move not a criticism.

LOL. You know that I am "friends" with folks who have bothered you for many months unprovoked no matter what you think? You seem to know a lot about me and my posting history!!!!

Keep up the passive aggressive comments on other members, while crying that people are picking on you. It's fun to watch.

Daria - read her thread on Siria, or her thread on "cupcakes." You'll see what this person dishes out.....and how she complains all the time about the meanies of the forum picking on her.

Edited September 16, 2013 by Groghan

[ohlovelyrita]

Judge away. Everyone is judgmental. You're just denying you are and attempting to be morally superior, which is funny to me. That's all.

Daria, you aren't going to get a satisfactory answer from Rita. Go read some of her posts in Anything Goes. She is crazy. She isn't here to have an "adult" conversation with you or anybody else, but instead to forcefeed her wacky ideas on people and then play the innocent victim when somebody disagrees with her. She does it in pretty much every topic she's in. She's basically the female version of somebody whose initials are SM.

I have never even spoken to you here to my knowledge but will report you if you continue as a pattern. I know you are friends with the folks who bothered me for many months unprovoked no matter what you think.

Daria- I didn't understand your #83 statement. The shoot does seem to be taken down because it was bad for the woman's image if that answers your question. That's a proactive move not a criticism.

LOL. You know that I am "friends" with folks who have bothered you for many months unprovoked no matter what you think? You seem to know a lot about me and my posting history!!!!

Keep up the passive aggressive comments on other members, while crying that people are picking on you. It's fun to watch.

Daria - read her thread on Siria, or her thread on "cupcakes." You'll see what this person dishes out.....and how she complains all the time about the meanies of the forum picking on her.

" It's fun to watch."? I think some people are reliving their highschool here. I never bullied anyone or let people be bullied in my presence. I get my self-esteem from real accomplishments.

[Val22]

At Axl's age it's hard to find a woman who isn't after his name and money.

The crazy bitches he was with in the 80's an 90's were not marriage material. They just used Axl for his image and wanted to live the rocker lifestyle and be cool.

If Axl's serious about finding someone, he needs to find someone over 35 who is serious, good looking and has a brain in her head and who is comfortable and secure in who she is. also, being financially sound would be good too so she wouldn't be after his money.

I think Axl's talent should be handed down to his kids, but by the looks of it, it doesn't look like he will marry at this stage in his life nor have kids.

DJ might have a chance since he just got engaged, but being engaged is a long way from marriage and kids. and his what 41 soon?

[CoolRanchDressing]

In y'all's crazy world, chicks and record labels are lining up to be with axl. Which is why he's always alone and never releases music. It all adds up perfectly

Edited September 16, 2013 by CoolRanchDressing

[Val22]

In y'all's crazy world, chicks and record labels are lining up to be with axl. Which is why he's always alone and never releases music. It all adds up perfectly

Axl has trust issues and rightly so. He's been burned to many times.

[Apollo]

Judge away. Everyone is judgmental. You're just denying you are and attempting to be morally superior, which is funny to me. That's all.

Daria, you aren't going to get a satisfactory answer from Rita. Go read some of her posts in Anything Goes. She is crazy. She isn't here to have an "adult" conversation with you or anybody else, but instead to forcefeed her wacky ideas on people and then play the innocent victim when somebody disagrees with her. She does it in pretty much every topic she's in. She's basically the female version of somebody whose initials are SM.

I have never even spoken to you here to my knowledge but will report you if you continue as a pattern. I know you are friends with the folks who bothered me for many months unprovoked no matter what you think.

Daria- I didn't understand your #83 statement. The shoot does seem to be taken down because it was bad for the woman's image if that answers your question. That's a proactive move not a criticism.

LOL. You know that I am "friends" with folks who have bothered you for many months unprovoked no matter what you think? You seem to know a lot about me and my posting history!!!!

Keep up the passive aggressive comments on other members, while crying that people are picking on you. It's fun to watch.

Daria - read her thread on Siria, or her thread on "cupcakes." You'll see what this person dishes out.....and how she complains all the time about the meanies of the forum picking on her.

" It's fun to watch."? I think some people are reliving their highschool here. I never bullied anyone or let people be bullied in my presence. I get my self-esteem from real accomplishments.

Yes, it is fun to watch people like you make a fool of themselves. Not sure why that would have anything to do with high school.

Yes, you do bully and insult people. And then you cry and whine when the respond.

The fact that you are talking about self-esteem and your real life accomplishments......on a rock n roll forum with complete strangers...........ya, like I said. It is fun to watch you in action.

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Val - so Axl has been burned by women many many times? Can you give us details about that? Has he been burned more than the average guy has?

[Snowmass]

Perla helped clean up Slash & for the most part keep him on the strait & narrow.

Do you think that a good woman is what Axl needed in the early 2000's?

I understand that Beta has steped in & helped him where a wife normally would have but I can't help thinking that if a woman (who knew herself & was strong willed) could have changed him for the better & made him stronger & ready to take the next step into adult hood. He needed a woman who would also have acted like Perla & helped manage the band (as much as I hate the idea of that) because you have to admit anything she could have done for him would have been better that what we have from the current band it it's state.

A good woman you say...hmmm like DJ?

[Dariablue]

At Axl's age it's hard to find a woman who isn't after his name and money.

The crazy bitches he was with in the 80's an 90's were not marriage material. They just used Axl for his image and wanted to live the rocker lifestyle and be cool.

Oh for fuck's sake! Gee it's strange how they've both been married and have kids then, huh? The crazies never cease to amaze me.

[Angelica]

Val - so Axl has been burned by women many many times? Can you give us details about that? Has he been burned more than the average guy has?

Domestic violence is incredibly stressful for the perpetrator, you shouldn't make light of it.

[Lim666]

"A good woman in Axl's life....."


....would have to pass Beta's door first!

so....can not happen, case closed.

[Apollo]

Val - so Axl has been burned by women many many times? Can you give us details about that? Has he been burned more than the average guy has?

Domestic violence is incredibly stressful for the perpetrator, you shouldn't make light of it.

I mean, sure. We all know that all those women "deserved" it. They were "crazy b*tches" who were just out for Axl's fame and money. Plus one of them was really, really mean to Axl back in a past life in 1643. Top it off with Axl having a tough childhood.......who can blame the guy for beating up a few girlfriends every now and again?

[ohlovelyrita]

Judge away. Everyone is judgmental. You're just denying you are and attempting to be morally superior, which is funny to me. That's all.

Daria, you aren't going to get a satisfactory answer from Rita. Go read some of her posts in Anything Goes. She is crazy. She isn't here to have an "adult" conversation with you or anybody else, but instead to forcefeed her wacky ideas on people and then play the innocent victim when somebody disagrees with her. She does it in pretty much every topic she's in. She's basically the female version of somebody whose initials are SM.

I have never even spoken to you here to my knowledge but will report you if you continue as a pattern. I know you are friends with the folks who bothered me for many months unprovoked no matter what you think.

Daria- I didn't understand your #83 statement. The shoot does seem to be taken down because it was bad for the woman's image if that answers your question. That's a proactive move not a criticism.

LOL. You know that I am "friends" with folks who have bothered you for many months unprovoked no matter what you think? You seem to know a lot about me and my posting history!!!!

Keep up the passive aggressive comments on other members, while crying that people are picking on you. It's fun to watch.

Daria - read her thread on Siria, or her thread on "cupcakes." You'll see what this person dishes out.....and how she complains all the time about the meanies of the forum picking on her.

" It's fun to watch."? I think some people are reliving their highschool here. I never bullied anyone or let people be bullied in my presence. I get my self-esteem from real accomplishments.

Yes, it is fun to watch people like you make a fool of themselves. Not sure why that would have anything to do with high school.

Yes, you do bully and insult people. And then you cry and whine when the respond.

The fact that you are talking about self-esteem and your real life accomplishments......on a rock n roll forum with complete strangers...........ya, like I said. It is fun to watch you in action.

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Val - so Axl has been burned by women many many times? Can you give us details about that? Has he been burned more than the average guy has?

Figures you'd be here attacking Axl Rose yet you're in his world here; he is the #1 topic on this board. Are you lost? When you constantly focus on someone you

don't like, you become bitter and jealous.

I am capturing your comments by responding to save to show to mods. You don't know what bullying is or you are pretending. Show me one post where I bullied or insulted? If anyone believes Groghan's claims, please inbox me and I'll provide links as proof. After ignoring the regular rudness by two posters, I chose to comment back a few times. Mild comments mostly, not abrasive insults. So now that I have responded maybe 1 time to every 5 comments NOT only am I the problem in his mind, I am worse! A mod told both people to leave me alone. It's done, so why stir stuff up again?

Val- Your post was really accurate and well thought out. It's good advice. Of course, marriage is not a measure of success in itself, isn't as important as a strong emotional partnership. I see a lot of women want to marry guys for financial partnership and vice-vera then they stay married and lead separate lives even sleeping in separate bedrooms.

Edited September 17, 2013 by ohlovelyrita