A good woman in Axl's life

[Dariablue]

If I may interrupt for one short post.

Erin was such a babe.

As you were....

Correction: Erin is such a babe. She's still the hotness.

[Angelica]

If I may interrupt for one short post.

Erin was such a babe.

As you were....

Correction: Erin is such a babe. She's still the hotness.

True. Seriously.

[ohlovelyrita]

Axl and Seymour were a great couple..too bad it didn't work out

I don't think they where that great... Him draggin her trough glass, she having cocaine parties with his two year old in, both of them most likely cheating on eachother... I've seen better

Lol cocaine parties.

the one thing I don't like about those storyes is that Axl actually cared more about the child that his own mother... You don't do cocaine when you're with your childrens... Ask Cobain and on the other hand Althoug Axl should have handle it better (the glass thing was really wrong). Also since Erin was at a show... does anybody think Axl knew she was there???

No proof that Steph did that.

This woman has many children and still poses nude showing full frontal where they and all their friends can see the images and you doubt that she did another depraved act long ago where drugs were involved?

It isn't like kids know what their parents are doing but to think it isn't one of those things that happens on the road to self-destruction is too innocent. I'm not judging her to think that is so far beyond anything else is not understanding drug culture. We all come out of and are better people for our mistakes from the past.

Posing nude is a depraved act? Wtf. The woman is a model. She posed nude in the past. Why does it matter if she's done it once some of her children are grown?

Dalsh, you posting things from page six and you expect those things to be reputable? Why is everything you post have to be a new level of crazy? Divorces get ugly, people make things up to make the other party look bad. Not saying either party of faultless, but using a little common sense works wonders.

"WTF" is rude but i'll give you both the benefit of the doubt you are being civil. I won't respond further if folks here can't respect an opinion without attacks.

Why is it hard to believe people are high around their kids? Most parents don't put their kids needs first as often as they should. I feel if a woman puts her kids first she wouldn't embarrass them posing as a nude coffee table. Notice her V Magazine shoot has been removed from the internet and maybe because it was not prudent. Would you like to see your mom compromised like that? All her kids are grown? Doesn't she have a youngster? I wish her and her family the best as I would anyone but that's not a celebrity that is worth celebrating as a role model for girls who want to be a clothes hanger with integrity.

A model can be a respectable career and not involve any strong sexual overtones. Some nudes are tasteful and truly art but most else is usually soft core porn photography and is unlikely to hang in an art museum. A lot of mothers won't let their daughters go into that business with the casting couch. It has always been that way but now it is worse with too many sleezy amateur photographers and offering pics to bed young girls and now the girls are being made gifts to wealthy clients.

[Dariablue]

So...now she's a bad mother too? You're awfully morally superior aren't you? Yes, she does have a younger daughter, no where did I say her children were all grown. You brought up her posing nude after her children were of a certain age was inappropriate. I reminded you that she had posed nude before that. I guess that makes her a bad mom in your eyes. If that's what you think, you are truly misguided and extremely judgmental. Maybe you should do some soul searching as far as judging people for something that often goes hand in hand with their professions goes. I could list off a slew of celebrities and models who have worked nude - I guess they're all bad people too? Or is it just the ones with children? Does it matter if they don't have children when they posed nude or should they think "I might have children in five years and some random on the Internet will think I'm a bad mom if I do this."

Who said anything about role models or the perils of the modeling industry? You're jumping around topics too much trying to find one that sticks it seems. Stay on the one we're on and stop bringing random things into it. I don't think any celebrity should be a role model based on them being a celebrity. But that's not what we are discussing whatsoever.

[ohlovelyrita]

So...now she's a bad mother too? You're awfully morally superior aren't you? Yes, she does have a younger daughter, no where did I say her children were all grown. You brought up her posing nude after her children were of a certain age was inappropriate. I reminded you that she had posed nude before that. I guess that makes her a bad mom in your eyes. If that's what you think, you are truly misguided and extremely judgmental. Maybe you should do some soul searching as far as judging people for something that often goes hand in hand with their professions goes. I could list off a slew of celebrities and models who have worked nude - I guess they're all bad people too? Or is it just the ones with children? Does it matter if they don't have children when they posed nude or should they think "I might have children in five years and some random on the Internet will think I'm a bad mom if I do this."

Who said anything about role models or the perils of the modeling industry? You're jumping around topics too much trying to find one that sticks it seems. Stay on the one we're on and stop bringing random things into it. I don't think any celebrity should be a role model based on them being a celebrity. But that's not what we are discussing whatsoever.

That's way too much accusatory nonsense to sift thru. I have no problem with nudes but soft porn photography is not art to me. Lots of children only see their parents highly medicated or drunk. I won't name any name so you don't loose your balance. I will add that they heal and so do their families.

[dalsh327]

Axl and Seymour were a great couple..too bad it didn't work out

I don't think they where that great... Him draggin her trough glass, she having cocaine parties with his two year old in, both of them most likely cheating on eachother... I've seen better

Lol cocaine parties.

the one thing I don't like about those storyes is that Axl actually cared more about the child that his own mother... You don't do cocaine when you're with your childrens... Ask Cobain and on the other hand Althoug Axl should have handle it better (the glass thing was really wrong). Also since Erin was at a show... does anybody think Axl knew she was there???

No proof that Steph did that.

This woman has many children and still poses nude showing full frontal where they and all their friends can see the images and you doubt that she did another depraved act long ago where drugs were involved?

It isn't like kids know what their parents are doing but to think it isn't one of those things that happens on the road to self-destruction is too innocent. I'm not judging her to think that is so far beyond anything else is not understanding drug culture. We all come out of and are better people for our mistakes from the past.

Posing nude is a depraved act? Wtf. The woman is a model. She posed nude in the past. Why does it matter if she's done it once some of her children are grown?

Dalsh, you posting things from page six and you expect those things to be reputable? Why is everything you post have to be a new level of crazy? Divorces get ugly, people make things up to make the other party look bad. Not saying either party of faultless, but using a little common sense works wonders.

I know Page 6 is gossip crap (but liked Richard Johnson on the Stern show and his "guess the fake story" every Friday) but that's the route his lawyers were using to make her look bad in public.

New level of crazy? Discussing a 20 year old relationship isn't crazy in itself? I'm just a passenger on the crazy train.

[Crash Diet]

Lol girlfight

I wonder why are some exactly the same nicknames popped up ONLY in Axl's ex-gf threads...

[Dariablue]

Lol girlfight

I wonder why are some exactly the same nicknames popped up ONLY in Axl's ex-gf threads...

Well let's address that for a second. Who are the ones who usually attempt to put Erin and/or Steph in a bad light? From my experience crazy Axl fans, more specifically and more often than not, crazy female Axl fans. I am not of the belief that Axl is blameless in his past relationships nor do I believe that Axl's every move is to be defended and needs someone to excuse his actions. So, if I see someone mention the phrase "coke parties" or talk about how he's innocent since he was never criminally charged, I'm going to say something. I'm a big fan of both Erin and Steph and I think that Steph specifically gets labeled a bitch and other names by crazy Axl fans for "breaking Axl's heart" or "cheating on him", etc. If you think about those phrases which are commonly thrown around on here by some, a normal person would be able to look at them and take a common sense approach given how much we all know history wise. Some people obviously struggle with that for reasons that escape me.

[Axl_Fetish]

Stephanie Seymour... a two year-ish relationship that happened over 20 years ago... <yawn> NEXT...

[dalsh327]

Stephanie Seymour... a two year-ish relationship that happened over 20 years ago... <yawn> NEXT...

But we got this little gem of a rant out of it -

[Scumcat Esq.]

Lol girlfight

I wonder why are some exactly the same nicknames popped up ONLY in Axl's ex-gf threads...

Hi Steph! Hi Erin!

[Axl_Fetish]

Stephanie Seymour... a two year-ish relationship that happened over 20 years ago... <yawn> NEXT...

But we got this little gem of a rant out of it -

still painful <cringe> to me to hear that one! Yes, this is indeed a classic. We can thank her for that... and TWAT...

[rock4eva]

Stephanie Seymour... a two year-ish relationship that happened over 20 years ago... <yawn> NEXT...

But we got this little gem of a rant out of it -

still painful <cringe> to me to hear that one! Yes, this is indeed a classic. We can thank her for that... and TWAT...

What is the story here, did Steph leave Warren to go to Axl, did she cheat with Warren or did she leave Axl for Warren? I don't know what he is upset with Warren about on this rant. Did Warren react to this? Thx

[Dariablue]

No, I don't think Warren ever commented on it. She was dating Warren when she met Axl, then she broke up with him to be with Axl. She was supposed to be at this concert, but she told Axl she had to work. He had heard that she was talking to Warren again and freaked out.

[rock4eva]

Thanks Daria, not a very stable life for a small child if Axl was his 3rd father figure. I don't like to judge people especially when I don't know her but with a small child they need stability & getting attached to others only to be taken away would be very hard for them. I don't know what Axl was like with Dylan but heard he adored him, how he treated him I don't know but imagine he was pretty good seeing as his own childhood wasn't happy.

[Dariablue]

I don't know if you could view them as father figures and we don't know how much time they spent with Dylan. Where are you getting three from? Unless you're counting his actual father, which wouldn't make sense as it implies that he left at some point. Also, keep in mind that Dylan was an infant when Warren and Steph dated. Not sure how much attachment could be formed there, but that's a different discussion. I agree that children need stability though. However, keep in mind that life looks a little differently when your mom is a supermodel (not referencing dating which goes beyond job titles and income level obviously, more so the 'jet set lifestyle' that accompanies a famous profession). We also don't know how Axl interacted with Dylan. He didn't have a lot if exposure to children. He referenced one story in which he became upset when Dylan was mad at him for something and Steph had to explain that Axl couldn't be mad because Dylan was two. We do have numerous stories about Axl's explosive temper. So to imply that he would be father of the year material simply because he had a bad childhood is absurd. Axl also blames his bad childhood for his anger towards women, etc so it could just as easily have gone the other way.

[ohlovelyrita]

It's interesting how people discuss if Axl would be a good father based on no first hand knowledge or even current knowledge. And on a site he might read nonetheless! I don't understand coming into his world and being so loathing. The type of person that sounds not to be the best parent is one that is so hyper-critical and full of judgment. That kind of mindset can damage a child's self-esteem. A loving, supportive person makes a good parent and people who radiate love see the good in most situations. Everyone join them, it's good over there!

[Angelica]

It's interesting how people discuss if Axl would be a good father based on no first hand knowledge or even current knowledge. And on a site he might read nonetheless! I don't understand coming into his world and being so loathing. The type of person that sounds not to be the best parent is one that is so hyper-critical and full of judgment.

This woman has many children and still poses nude showing full frontal where they and all their friends can see the images and you doubt that she did another depraved act long ago where drugs were involved?

It isn't like kids know what their parents are doing but to think it isn't one of those things that happens on the road to self-destruction is too innocent.

Edited September 16, 2013 by Angelica

[CoolRanchDressing]

How many women does Axl have to beat up to make it clear that he'd be an excellent father?

[EvH]

At least, Dijon seems to be a nice pussy.

[ohlovelyrita]

It's interesting how people discuss if Axl would be a good father based on no first hand knowledge or even current knowledge. And on a site he might read nonetheless! I don't understand coming into his world and being so loathing. The type of person that sounds not to be the best parent is one that is so hyper-critical and full of judgment.

This woman has many children and still poses nude showing full frontal where they and all their friends can see the images and you doubt that she did another depraved act long ago where drugs were involved?

It isn't like kids know what their parents are doing but to think it isn't one of those things that happens on the road to self-destruction is too innocent.

Out of context because I was playing Devil's advocate. The premise was that theory was so far-fetched that an act like that can happen and the person who brings it to light is a liar. Unfortunately, I see it all the time. I don't think people's private life should be made public info so I feel for Ms. Seymour and any suffering that resulting from it. No one can be proud of that. Mistakes can be forgiven.

On topic: Christy Turlington has said in a recent interview that she thinks about her daughter before posing in certain states of undress. I am not the only one of that opinion that parents can embarrass their children.

Any comments on my last post? Any first hand knowledge or recent info?

Edited September 16, 2013 by ohlovelyrita

[Dariablue]

Christy Turlington has also posed nude prior to having children. Does that make her a bad mom since she didn't have the forethought not to "embarrass" her future children?

This site isn't Axl's world. This site is created for fans of GNR.

[ohlovelyrita]

Christy Turlington has also posed nude prior to having children. Does that make her a bad mom since she didn't have the forethought not to "embarrass" her future children?

This site isn't Axl's world. This site is created for fans of GNR.

I have told you twice my feeling on that. Nudes when done right are art. Some other nudity is not much different from soft porn photography. Ask her why she thinks of her daughter first now if there is no difference.

Where do you stand on feminist matters and women being seeing as objects of beauty over objects of lust?

[Dariablue]

So...you think Steph's posing nude is soft core porn? If that isn't what you're saying, then you once again are bringing things into discussion that had no bearing on the current topic. You're like the female dalsh.

[ohlovelyrita]

I'm not saying i'm a feminist for those ready to attack certain keywords. I could reference so many tasteful nudes in art photography. I see a huge difference from gratuitous nudity in fashion editorials.

So...you think Steph's posing nude is soft core porn? If that isn't what you're saying, then you once again are bringing things into discussion that had no bearing on the current topic. You're like the female dalsh.

Answer my last two questions and i'll gladly answer yours.