Classical vs. Jazz

[Georgy Zhukov]

Two fields of music long debated by college students and classy people.

I am neither of those, but I do like Classical.

Edited February 2, 2014 by Georgy Zhukov

[OmarBradley]

Classical. Though I do like plenty of jazz, but none of it as much as classical.

Edited February 2, 2014 by OmarBradley

[Amir]

Love classical. Not a big jazz fan, but I like jazz bars/cafes, etc.

[Johnny Drama]

Classical. Only pretentious white people like jazz.

[Georgy Zhukov]

I can appreciate jazz. But Classical has that beauty to it. Like the peak of humanity. It all goes down hill after romanticism.

[OmarBradley]

Classical. Only pretentious white people like jazz.

[Johnny Drama]

Classical. Only pretentious white people like jazz.

Yes, I wasn't talking about who plays it.

[OmarBradley]

Yes, I wasn't talking about who plays it.

C'mon don't be like that, there is absolutely a large minority (specifically black) appreciation for jazz. It's roots are in the blues, SOME jazz is only listened to white pretentious people, but a lot of jazz is culturally infused to the "black experience" so to say.

[Johnny Drama]

Yes, I wasn't talking about who plays it.

C'mon don't be like that, there is absolutely a large minority (specifically black) appreciation for jazz. It's roots are in the blues, SOME jazz is only listened to white pretentious people, but a lot of jazz is culturally infused to the "black experience" so to say.

I know but I live in Melbourne, Australia. Here it's only pretentious white people that dig it. We don't have pockets of cool Black folk around here.

[wfuckinga]

Jazz all the way. Rock, the blues and Jazz are the three greatest genres imo

[Guest Len B'stard]

Can't choose between the two, amazing in their own way. Probably listened to more jazz in my life, Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Earl Bostic, loads of that shit but i understand the value of classical and really, quite frankly, in terms of impact on the history of music, fuckin' classical all day long and thats above and beyond any other kind of fuckin' music, if you really get into classical you actually come to understand how fuckin' thick rock n roll is. Not that it doesn't have it's own subtle complexities but nothing in terms of classical music.

[wfuckinga]

Can't choose between the two, amazing in their own way. Probably listened to more jazz in my life, Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Earl Bostic, loads of that shit but i understand the value of classical and really, quite frankly, in terms of impact on the history of music, fuckin' classical all day long and thats above and beyond any other kind of fuckin' music, if you really get into classical you actually come to understand how fuckin' thick rock n roll is. Not that it doesn't have it's own subtle complexities but nothing in terms of classical music.

LOVE The Monk. I agree, Classical has its merits and its fans, but personally I'm more likely to purchase a Jazz record than i am a Classical record

[DieselDaisy]

Classical is my favourite genre of music.

[bran]

love classical

[axlfan88]

Lachenmann, Hosokawa, Scelsi, Ligeti are probably the best composers of the last 20 years. Their music reflects very well the modern human being's isolation in this dehumanized society by the excess of technology.

[machinegunner]

Classical. More straight out dramatic and easy to comprehend.

Jazz by and large is quite self-indulgent and quite often elitist.

[Guest Len B'stard]

Classical. More straight out dramatic and easy to comprehend.

Jazz by and large is quite self-indulgent and quite often elitist.

I've always found both of them quite difficult to understand but Classical is certainly just as self indulgent and elitist y'know. I mean take something like the ring cycle (more an opera, granted) thats about as self indulgent as you can get. But yeah, jazz can be pretty like that too.

To be honest they are two forms of music that I am interested in greatly but i don't really have a deep deep understanding of them, I listen to them in a context of like, i just kinda let em wash over me? Especially so with jazz, just sit back and enjoy it and not get so hung up on which song is this etc etc, being something of a working class pleb its difficult for me to remember songs that are just instrumental and based around the same kinda instruments, getting better at it though.

Jazz is great but it has to have a bit of snap to it.

[Georgy Zhukov]

I knew Classical would win out in a forum filled with metal heads.

[machinegunner]

being something of a working class pleb its difficult for me to remember songs that are just instrumental and based around the same kinda instruments

Well shut the fuck up then, ya fuckin' pleb!

[Guest Len B'stard]

*spastic voice* yetthurrrrr

Edited February 15, 2014 by sugaraylen

[DieselDaisy]

There is a good book on classical music which I found indispensable, The Vintage Guide to Classical Music by Jan Swafford. I cannot recomend it highly enough.

[machinegunner]

The Penguin guides are always good, both for jazz and classical.

Colin Wilson also wrote a very interesting book on classic music.

Edited February 17, 2014 by machinegunner

[Guest Len B'stard]

I find the Ladybird books to be enlightening also

[ITG]

Which is more pretentious, man? Have to throw down jazz. Dig?

[Powerage5]

Jazz. I'm a saxophonist, so it's not like I have much of a choice