Len Cnut Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Jimmy Reed was fucking fantastic, raging pisshead too! Apparently sometimes he'd go out onstage so fucked he couldnt perform His voice always reminds me of someone pissed, it has a sort of a natural slur to it but it comes off wonderful when sung/recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Jimmy Reed was fucking fantastic, raging pisshead too! Apparently sometimes he'd go out onstage so fucked he couldnt perform His voice always reminds me of someone pissed, it has a sort of a natural slur to it but it comes off wonderful when sung/recorded. I was a fan of the well known black blues musicians, R Johnson, Muddy, Howlin, etc., but it was because of Keef that I got into Jimmy Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Not for me, i caught onto Jimmy Reed naturally, Keith made me aware of Hubert Sumlin though, until then oddly I never really dug much into the players that backed the greats like Mud' and Wolf, perhaps cuz the character in their voice and playing was so powerful but boy am i glad i did, their voice and their own playing aint the only reason they were so powerful.Its a trip to go into ASDA (your Walmart) and go to the CD section and see a 3 CD blues collection for £3 and look through the tracklist, its like wow, this is like the history of a few generation, the amounts of whiskey drunk, the amount of love lost, found and forgotten to the these tunes must be phenomenal. All the people these songs must've really meant something to. Edited October 23, 2015 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Going to start a Rolling Stones marathon from their American debut to Some Girls. Who cares what they did after Some Girls? Sadly I can't get a hold of their U.K. self titled debut and their follow-up The Rolling Stones No. 2 but I don't really need to since their American releases has those tracks other other albums.But I do have the U.K. editions of Out Of Our Heads, Aftermath and Between the Buttons along with the American. So I am good there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) It is best to stick to one-or-the-other or you are going to have to play these rather strange American albums like 12 X 5, December's Children and Flowers. 12 X 5 by the way includes the British EP Five by Five, so, with a bit of programming on your player, it shouldn't be hard to replicate that. Make sure you have The London Years which includes every single, UK and US, and fills in a lot of gaps whatever version of the discography you are playing; you can pick it up cheap now (you used to have to take out a second mortgage to buy the thing!). It is what I'm listening to now as it happens.PSYou can order the old 1980s' compact disc of The Rolling Stones from Amazon market place for around £10. There is actually a remastered Japanese version from 2000 but expect to pay £30-40 for that.It is odd that it has slipped out of print whereas the US version has had the full remastering treatment! Edited October 24, 2015 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Flowers I don't have. Didn't think I'd need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 If you have both versions of Aftermath and Between the Buttons, then only for the three rarities ('My Girl', 'Ride On Baby', 'Sittin' On A Fence'). It is an odd album Flowers, a hits record with three rarities thrown in. This was released in 1967. I personally would just listen to to them three on youtube or download them. Listen to them soon after you listen to Aftermath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 My Girl is a terrible cover. I have listened to the songs and I don't find them worth getting. If it had 19th Nervous Breakdown then I'd consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) It seemed Keith and Brian would play guitar together, which Keith called "weaving" but Brian kind of lost interest and started playing other instruments. I guess lost interest with playing with Keith as he and Mick got closer. With Taylor it was more like a lead and rhythm thing but some weaving. Ronnie came in and brought them back to the art of weaving.Even though most people think the rhythm and lead thing was established between Keith and Taylor, they often exchange roles, sometimes in the same song. Get Yer Ya Ya's Out had one great example in Sympathy for the Devil. Keith starts playing the solo, as he did on the actual record, then Taylor takes over. Honky Tonk Woman was the one of the first songs Taylor recorded for the Stones but it was Keith who did that solo. Brown Sugar was all Keith. That beautiful lead in Wild Horses was Keith. So the boundaries were crossed often. Taylor shines on songs like Can't You Hear Me Knocking and Time Waits for No One. Edited October 24, 2015 by Georgy Zhukov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Live especially. Gimmie Shelter for example, on, say The Brussels Affair, Taylor just plays lead through the whole thing. It becomes a vehicle for his lead playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 It seems the lead is done by whoever shows up at the studio. Keith wasn't around for the recording of Sway so Mick took up the guitar and played rhythm and Taylor played lead. Sometimes they would get other players come in like Ry Cooder or Clapton, though the latter never appeared on official release. Wayne Perkins was prominent on Black and Blue. Keith also did the bass on Sympathy for the Devil as well as that guitar solo. Taylor's solos stand out more, but they were rarely the centerpiece of the songs. The songs didn't need them. The strengths were Jagger's lyrics and Keith weaving with Brian, Mick, Ronnie, himself or whoever happens to be in the studio. Can't You Hear Me Knocking's solo happened almost by accident. Mick kept playing and everyone thought it was great so the added it to the track. Bobby Keys shouldn't go unmentioned as his sax are the ultimate attention grabber. Ian Stewart, Nicky Hopkins, Jack Nitzsche and Billy Preson were all excellent contributors. They always had a variety of musicians to record to them adding a richness to their songs. Taylor deserved a writing credit on Time Waits For No One. Keith got one but he did the riff and he probably wasn't around for a lot of the recording. Heroin took its toll on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Taylor deserved a songwriting credit for ''Sway'', ''Moonlight Mile'', ''Winter'', ''Till the Next Time Goodbye'' and ''Time Waits for No One'' - the only one he received was ''Ventilator Blues''. Jagger formed a songwriting partnership with Taylor because Keith was, how should we delicately put it, indisposed? Every album however Taylor would look at the released album and there is 'Jagger/Richards'! A similar thing happened to Wyman who claims he wrote the riff for ''Jack Flash''. We used to fight and argue all the time. And one of the things I got angry about was that Mick had promised to give me some credit for some of the songs – and he didn't. I believed I'd contributed enough. Let's put it this way – without my contribution those songs would not have existed. There's not many but enough, things like "Sway" and "Moonlight Mile" on Sticky Fingers and a couple of others.- Mick Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Hate to say it but ''Child of the Moon'', b-side of Jack Flash, is a bit of a rip-off of The Beatles' ''Rain'', recorded two years earlier, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I would say each of their albums (UK versions) up to Exile, excluding Satanic is better than the one before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 First albums a belter by The Stones, love it! WOOOOOOOOAH Carol!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Have you got it on original vinyl or the Japanese cd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 You talkin' to me, first album? I got it ages ago in HMV on CD, with a little paper case all wrapped in plastic, now that you come to mention it it did have some Japanese writing down the left-hand side on this little slip of paper inside the plastic, not actually on the cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 You would pay £30 for that now.Lennon would be pissed with you for buying their albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 30 quid, why? I think i got it for under a tenner.I dont think Lennon, with his refridgerated fur coat rooms and original Renoir paintings and high level investment in cattle farming, his 76 acre ground mansion in Ascot would care a monkeys about where i put my 9 quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Japanese. Albums are dearer in Japan and it is not in print in the UK or the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) I used to really not take care of my CDs back then, still don't really though the only place i have em now is in my car...but back when i did have em i didn't have much respect for em, they lay around out of the cases, got scratched to shit, the covers got used for roaches, same with DVDs and VHS, i must've had a few hundred, after a while i just got sick of em all and chucked em in a skip when moving house. I've come to hate the idea of having too many belongings. Edited October 24, 2015 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I've never been like that. I had a friend like that who used to treat his stuff like shite and I did not understand the behaviour. Why buy it if you are going to trash it? Music should be respected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 True, just a lazy so and so y'know, when you take it out of the player to put another one in you just leave it out of the case on the counter, couple of times of that and they're all over the place, but you're damn right, it's an absolute waste of money, I've must've laid out thousands over the years in CDs and tapes and VHS and DVDs...and they all went to bollocks cuz i didn't take care of em, absolute waste really.I find Vynyl engenders a sort of respect, they such big grand looking things, everyone i know with a Vynyl collection looks after em so much. There's actually a store two doors down from where i am right now that specialises in like, old vynyl, it's all stuff you've love too, all Elvis and 50s stuff and tons and tons of Beatles and Stones and Who and all that, it's brilliant, there's literally like, nothing new or modern in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) I have With the Beatles, Beatles for Sale, Yellow Sub (mono which is rare) and Pepper - original UK Parlophone. Pepper has the cut outs. I have Never Mind the Bollocks also but I do not know the issue. I am embarrassed to say that I have most of Zeppelin's discography on Vinyl, Physical Graffiti with the doors and III with the wheel! Edited October 26, 2015 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Someone gave me Tommy by The Who and With The Beatles on vinyl and I've never had a record player in my life They just sat around in my house for ages. Do you listen to most of your stuff on vinyl then? On the wall of this record shop he has all these super rare ones out, one particular one that was quite expensive was some rare pressing of The Who Sell Out. Edited October 24, 2015 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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