Lago Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I don't understand the people who say "Don't release anymore!"...but yet and still, have listened to all the previously released demos. And even admit they would probably listen to anymore that are released. That makes zero sense to me. And frankly, the moral superiority is nauseating, because you're no better than the rest of us who've listened to the songs.It's as hypocritical as saying "I hate drugs!"...and then someone brings them to a party, and you do them. I mean, like, spare me, man.I think Axl would be against the demos being out, because he's a prefectionist. But unless a CD quality copy of the entire album is leaked, it's unlikely to affect album sales. Like others have said, it may actually do the opposite, and generate interest in the album and band. For example, the "Don't Cry" demo was commonly available in the late 80's and early 90's, but it didn't affect sales of the "Illusion" albums (at least, it didn't seem to). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bin laden killed gnr Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I don't understand the people who say "Don't release anymore!"...but yet and still, have listened to all the previously released demos. And even admit they would probably listen to anymore that are released. That makes zero sense to me. And frankly, the moral superiority is nauseating, because you're no better than the rest of us who've listened to the songs.It's as hypocritical as saying "I hate drugs!"...and then someone brings them to a party, and you do them. I mean, like, spare me, man.I think Axl would be against the demos being out, because he's a prefectionist. But unless a CD quality copy of the entire album is leaked, it's unlikely to affect album sales. Like others have said, it may actually do the opposite, and generate interest in the album and band. For example, the "Don't Cry" demo was commonly available in the late 80's and early 90's, but it didn't affect sales of the "Illusion" albums (at least, it didn't seem to).Some people don't want to spoilt the album for ourselves once it is out. Kinda like opening all of the christmas presents secretly before christmas and then opening them again at christmas. Previews are one thing, but to gobble it all up would suck. Leave room for dessert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogg2500 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 i say release TWAT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack99 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Axl put so much fucking work into all of this. Don't be an idiot, and ruin it.You had your fun with IRS, and Better.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 On various rock websites that I follow regularly I see bashing of Axl Rose, and Chinese Democracy. Ultimate-Guitar.com is a prime example. Everytime a story about Axl or CD comes up there are so many people that bash it. ....so naturally when I saw that IRS and Better leaked, I had to get them both. Even though I've supported Axl, and CD through all these years, when you hear everyone saying that the album is going to flop and that Axl doesn't have IT anymore, it makes you curious. Even though you know better, all of the naysaying stays in the back of your mind.Better has satisfied me...However, with that being said, I can't say that if TWAT is leaked that I won't download it. Yet, I do agree that it should not be leaked, I agree that Axl has put too much into this, and I respect the work that went into this.Shit, I guess what I'm trying to say is protect me from myself, and don't leak TWAT. Well said. Your spot on. If it was leaked, then you may as well download it like the other hundreds of people but I'd prefer if it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I don't understand the people who say "Don't release anymore!"...but yet and still, have listened to all the previously released demos. And even admit they would probably listen to anymore that are released. That makes zero sense to me. And frankly, the moral superiority is nauseating, because you're no better than the rest of us who've listened to the songs.It's as hypocritical as saying "I hate drugs!"...and then someone brings them to a party, and you do them. I mean, like, spare me, man.I think Axl would be against the demos being out, because he's a prefectionist. But unless a CD quality copy of the entire album is leaked, it's unlikely to affect album sales. Like others have said, it may actually do the opposite, and generate interest in the album and band. For example, the "Don't Cry" demo was commonly available in the late 80's and early 90's, but it didn't affect sales of the "Illusion" albums (at least, it didn't seem to).I just don't like people calling people fucking assholes for wanting to hear songs from their favorite band and acting like they're so above every one else. State your opinion but don't slander those who have a different opinion.If its leaked, I will probably love it.If it is not leaked, I will survive. Axl has said he has up to potentially 70 songs he's working on. These are only three. Personally I love comparing demo versions to studio versions. But for your sake if TWAT is leaked, don't download it, but don't call me a fucking asshole if I do. I've been following this guys carreer since 1989 when I first heard wttj, and when I heard it I was like OH FUCK. These songs have had the same effect. So what did you say about poeple like me? I'm spoiled or an ingrate just b/c I would like to hear music? I am not entitled to anything? I think that sucks. Didn't Axl send this cd to Mike Piazza anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneAXLinamillion Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Axl put so much fucking work into all of this. Don't be an idiot, and ruin it.You had your fun with IRS, and Better.agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 do you think anyone with an IQ over 15 , would listen to these and not gonna buy the originals?leak as much as you can. i see no harm to axl. it just made me hornier.i fuckin' cried when i heard those.AXL WILL SAVE ROCK MUSIC ONCE AGAIN , with or without the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetite For Waiting Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) Axl put so much fucking work into all of this. Don't be an idiot, and ruin it.You had your fun with IRS, and Better.Agreed.I agree too - the guy put a massive amount of work and heart into the record.However, he is a multi-millionaire living in a mansion in Malibu. He used to be biggest rock-star in the world. He dated Erin everly and Stephanie Seymour. He could fuck any girl he wanted to at the drop of the hat. He drives Ferraris and top-end BMWs! He's the guy who kept his fans waiting for the best part of 15 years just the hear this record.I feel a damn sight more sorry for those "normal" fans who have waited so long than for a multi-millionaire in the Hollywood Hills who is sitting there now pining over the fact that a few songs he wrote have been leaked on the internet!GET A GRIP! Remember his quote: "a dog-eat-dog sly smile". I guarantee you care a damn sight more for his feelings than he care's for yours. If I were you, I'd stop wasting my time.This might feasibly be the only chance we get to hear the music in our lifetime! Unlike your Christmas presents that you open early, there's no guarantee that you're ever going to get Chinese Democracy. A better analogy might be that it would be like opening your Christmas presents early and stashing them because you're pretty sure that if you don't your house is going to get robbed on Christmas Eve and you're never going to get the chance to play with them!!!!!! Edited February 16, 2006 by Appetite For Waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtydane Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Dude, this is a selling tactic. The company is releasing this shit to get the internet community all horned up for a release. This is what Axl wants, release the fuckin songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvrocknroll1979 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Well if some people at some bar heard it, why can't I? I can assure you I've been waiting longer. I think this is a good thing for us fans, 'cause maybe if tracks are being leaked, it would pressure Axl and finally realease CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martina Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Axl put so much fucking work into all of this. Don't be an idiot, and ruin it.You had your fun with IRS, and Better.agree......better and irs are enaugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWORLD Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 1st, I will always buy the cd, even if the CD, landed in all it's final glory right here, BUTI believe there will be some that are happy with just downloading it and going on there way.I like to think that what we are getting is a little preview for our Club, even though we don't have to stay open late, or do anything else beside being GNR fans. Sum it up.... always be happy with any gift..and DAMN I CAN"T WAIT FOR CD TO BE OUT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Manson Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 DO NOT RUIN THE ALBUM. DO NOT RELEASE ANY MORE SHIT. THANK YOU. exactly!!!! i wanna hear TWAT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Terminator Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Fuck that, post it! How long have we waited, and how long are we expecting to wait?!POST THE MOTHERFUCKER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadablues Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Post it here ! We want to hear T.W.A.T Im true fan and if CD will be relased I will be first person in Poland who buy this fuckin album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRose01 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 There Was A Time is probably the only other song to leak (assuming its from the Trunk CD) and it's in demo form like the others, so it's not as if we're hearing the final versions here. To finish off "Better" and get "There Was A Time" wouldn't heart too much in the grand scheme of things I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR'R Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 WTF I was downloading TWAT from Limewire, all of them are just heavy distorted instrumentals, but they are studio...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetchild Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 WTF I was downloading TWAT from Limewire, all of them are just heavy distorted instrumentals, but they are studio...?There are some fake TWAT songs, labelled as Guns N' Roses on the internet. I think you downloaded those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe_teko Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Leak it. If you can hear it is because axl wants. The cd has not been stolen. don't be an idiot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR'R Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 WTF I was downloading TWAT from Limewire, all of them are just heavy distorted instrumentals, but they are studio...?There are some fake TWAT songs, labelled as Guns N' Roses on the internet. I think you downloaded those.O ok...that was stupid of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromle Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I've been to school and suddenly the shit hits the fan!!!What has been releasedI've got IRS and the first minute of betterAnd I understand that TWAT hasn't been released. Or has it. This is fucking huge. GOD DAMN!!!!Weels set in motion !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 If someone has it, not leaking it is stupid. We're all going to buy the album regardless. I thank Saint and whoever for sharing and let's continue that with the rest of the songs, they're only demos after all, and it's really spreading the word for the album to be mega successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrseb Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) If someone has it, not leaking it is stupid. We're all going to buy the album regardless. I thank Saint and whoever for sharing and let's continue that with the rest of the songs, they're only demos after all, and it's really spreading the word for the album to be mega successful.You made the point!I hope we will be able to hear the TWAT leak soon Edited February 16, 2006 by gnrseb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 If someone has it, not leaking it is stupid. We're all going to buy the album regardless. I thank Saint and whoever for sharing and let's continue that with the rest of the songs, they're only demos after all, and it's really spreading the word for the album to be mega successful.You made the point!I hope we will be able to hear the TWAT leak soon so do i but then if CD is released soon why have a leak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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