Funeral Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 The question is...does Slash know how too any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 The question is...does Slash know how too any more?You changed your name.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttyhc Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 definately not, purely because this album (CD) is of axls creation and his alone, he's very controlling and a hard character to get on with because of his mood swings. Slash wanted one thing axl wanted an entirely different other, thus Slash wasn't going to stay around no matter how much $$ you put in front of him, especially waiting all the time axl has as well, VR are a solid unit but they are certainly not guns n roses, because at the end of it all axl has proven that he is truly the heart of guns n roses and those around him simply are 'expendable'.Slash probably regrets signing over the GnR name to Axl, that was a dumb thing to do and tbh that showed Axl's true intentions, hes a control freak and its a shame such a brilliant musician and artist such as him is so flawed, but most genius is isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) No way. Of course they must have very mixed(mostly negative) emotions about GNR music being released with a new lineup, but if these past 10 years prove nothing else, it's that Axl--as talented as he is--is a frustrating nightmare to have to work with just like they and others painted him those many years ago. Only wanting to work on his schedule, missing sessions and then showing up at 5am and expecting everyone else to drop their pants and oblige, being inactive for long periods of time, causing riots, etc. As much as they've always recognized Axl's immense talents, this last decade could've only reinforced for them they made the only decision they could.And Axl is best at this point working with session musicians who are willing to stay on the dole . It's the only way he could keep a "band" together like this... Edited February 19, 2006 by Turn_It_Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Disillusion Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 what Slash may say is something to the effect of:'He didn't need to get rid of the whole band to do this...we could have done this with him'That's the really unique thing about this entire situation.. When grunge was popular, Axl wanted to do a grunge record. When industrial music hit the scene, Axl wanted to do an industrial record.. From what we've heard,.. the new material is not a noticeable departure from the original bands sound. It's all the more heartbreaking for the fans,.. considering we know Axl could have made this album with the original guys,.. it was just the collective ego on everyone's part that ruined those chances.More than a decade for an album that sounds like Use Your Illusion? So many years have been lost.. and, I believe that when Chinese Democracy hits -- they'll all realize this.-KickingthehabitGreat post, couldn't have said it better myself. After all those trends came and went, Axl is cutting an album with certain key tracks that are very illlusion era in style....The old band would have played the hell out of them.who cares if the old band coulda or couldn't play this shit?? THEY ARE DONE. Coulda woulda shoulda. the band is fine as it is. some people are fucking ungreatful piece of shit "fans". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverythingWasRoses Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 The question is...does Slash know how too any more?You changed your name.... differant person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 yes im pretty sure they are goin to regret it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidlook Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Maybe they hear the songs and think 13 Years for This?this is exactly how i feel!!This could be true. Because the songs aren't very guitar oriented. I.R.S. has the most guitar out of all but it's not that complicated. Just power chords. Not really any complex riffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carne_asaDA Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 The question is...does Slash know how too any more?You changed your name.... After all this time, that idiot finally realized that his name was not spelled right. It was fun roll instead of funeral. Imagine what he would sound like. Probably has speech impediment and hooked on phonics. Dumbass!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Honestly, Slash isnt nearly as egotistical as Axl, if at all.Hes a man who wants to hide under a hat and hair because hes a little shy so that he can play his guitar.The only real prob with Axl and Slash was that Slash is much more simplistic in his approach to life and Axl overanalyzes things to death.Then Duff is just a sweety pie as well. They just wanted to play Rock n Roll and didnt get Axl's insistance on making it more difficult than that.Im sure they have no real regrets because they are in a top band and playing music. But they both have huge hearts so I believe the frienship factor is something that has bothered them more than anything else, and what they viewed as Axl's betrayal of them. Axl is much more methodical in his thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Honestly, Slash isnt nearly as egotistical as Axl, if at all.Hes a man who wants to hide under a hat and hair because hes a little shy so that he can play his guitar.The only real prob with Axl and Slash was that Slash is much more simplistic in his approach to life and Axl overanalyzes things to death.Then Duff is just a sweety pie as well. They just wanted to play Rock n Roll and didnt get Axl's insistance on making it more difficult than that.Im sure they have no real regrets because they are in a top band and playing music. But they both have huge hearts so I believe the frienship factor is something that has bothered them more than anything else, and what they viewed as Axl's betrayal of them. Axl is much more methodical in his thinking.Yes. all very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Honestly, Slash isnt nearly as egotistical as Axl, if at all.Hes a man who wants to hide under a hat and hair because hes a little shy so that he can play his guitar.The only real prob with Axl and Slash was that Slash is much more simplistic in his approach to life and Axl overanalyzes things to death.Then Duff is just a sweety pie as well. They just wanted to play Rock n Roll and didnt get Axl's insistance on making it more difficult than that.Im sure they have no real regrets because they are in a top band and playing music. But they both have huge hearts so I believe the frienship factor is something that has bothered them more than anything else, and what they viewed as Axl's betrayal of them. Axl is much more methodical in his thinking.Yes. all very true.Thank You, I do what I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobadog Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Slash might find the new music interesting. Maybe the only regrets will be the money and crowds Chinese Democracy will maybe bring in. I wonder if ex GnR members will gain financially from CD what with it being released under the GnR name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Disillusion Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I wonder if ex GnR members will gain financially from CD what with it being released under the GnR name.not from CD directly, they signed their rights over and quit on their own accord.CD will probably boost sales of other GNR albums tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I wonder if ex GnR members will gain financially from CD what with it being released under the GnR name.not from CD directly, they signed their rights over Yes, when threatened by Axl before a live show that if they didnt, he wouldnt take the stage that day.I hardly think they could anticipate the long term ramifications of what they were signing that day with the pressure of the crowd who had already been left waitting and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 The question is...does Slash know how too any more?You changed your name.... After all this time, that idiot finally realized that his name was not spelled right. It was fun roll instead of funeral. Imagine what he would sound like. Probably has speech impediment and hooked on phonics. Dumbass!!!!I'll give you a classic "funral" reply: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Disillusion Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I wonder if ex GnR members will gain financially from CD what with it being released under the GnR name.not from CD directly, they signed their rights over Yes, when threatened by Axl before a live show that if they didnt, he wouldnt take the stage that day.I hardly think they could anticipate the long term ramifications of what they were signing that day with the pressure of the crowd who had already been left waitting and all.stop trying to give excuses, they signed their rights away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I wonder if ex GnR members will gain financially from CD what with it being released under the GnR name.not from CD directly, they signed their rights over Yes, when threatened by Axl before a live show that if they didnt, he wouldnt take the stage that day.I hardly think they could anticipate the long term ramifications of what they were signing that day with the pressure of the crowd who had already been left waitting and all.stop trying to give excuses, they signed their rights away Under duress. If you're conned out of your rightful property, I doubt you'd write it off as an excuse. This is all water under the bridge but you are amazingly cold hearted. Are you really that much of a fanboy that you don't have any humanity left in you? What Axl did was straight up wrong. He's not infallible, he's just a man. He fucked over his own friends. That really sucks from any point of view. Do you recall how Izzy was given his walking papers? Those two grew up together. Izzy was the coolest and nicest guy in the band. Axl sent him high and dry with a pittance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I wonder if ex GnR members will gain financially from CD what with it being released under the GnR name.not from CD directly, they signed their rights over Yes, when threatened by Axl before a live show that if they didnt, he wouldnt take the stage that day.I hardly think they could anticipate the long term ramifications of what they were signing that day with the pressure of the crowd who had already been left waitting and all.stop trying to give excuses, they signed their rights away Under duress. If you're conned out of your rightful property, I doubt you'd write it off as an excuse. This is all water under the bridge but you are amazingly cold hearted. Are you really that much of a fanboy that you don't have any humanity left in you? What Axl did was straight up wrong. He's not infallible, he's just a man. He fucked over his own friends. That really sucks from any point of view. Do you recall how Izzy was given his walking papers? Those two grew up together. Izzy was the coolest and nicest guy in the band. Axl sent him high and dry with a pittance.People like this guy here are one dimensional in their mindset and arent able to see things from all sides and come to a logical yet objective conclusion, whatev.We all know what Axl did yet we are still here, I dont approve of it but I think that a crappy childhood makes some people extremely calculating, so Iguess I cut Axl slack because of that. He really is an interesting combo of a man who has a huge heart yet can be ruthless all at once. Just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) Yeah Axl's gonna get alot of crap about "This is what you can do with 13 YEARS??"But I think the album will be truly amazing from what we've heard and I just hope it doesn't create any conflicts between the original membersi imagine vr could've come up with better' if they'd took 13 years Edited February 19, 2006 by lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 yeah but they wouldn't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani69 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Slash might find the new music interesting. Maybe the only regrets will be the money and crowds Chinese Democracy will maybe bring in. I wonder if ex GnR members will gain financially from CD what with it being released under the GnR name.He'll get more money from the 5 VR Albums he'll release while Axl's putting Leaks online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard2k Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 GnR turn up to the first festival show and new GnR take the stage and belt through Paradise City.then Axl says "We have a couple of special guests here tonight". Out come Slash, Izzy, Matt et. al.They run through some classic AFD and maybe some UYI stuff.Then Axl says "All right - who wants to hear what we've been doing for the last 10 years"The crowd cheers. Axl says "Let's have a round of applause for our special guests". Slash and co. leave the stage.New GnR cut into the new Chi Dem material. It would allow the band to "bridge the gap" between old GnR and new GnR but does not require the reformation of the old band and sacrifice of the new band.Far fetched? Sure. But it's a way that allows Slash to play with the band, as per Hallfin (sp?) and it does not require the destruction of New GnR and re-recording of all their material etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Niveen Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 yeah... no.This is very unlikely : a lot of people in the audience that are not familiar with the band would not even understand it.It would be like a circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAFIA Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Who need old gnr anyway,or you are stucked in past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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