undercovergunner Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 If twat is the first video/single that would explain only doing the song a few times to get footage for the video.I mean why drop and add only one song throught the tour if it is a part of a setlist . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 i thought you meant axl wasnt gettin laid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagnoris Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Yea me too, lack of twat just sounds like he isn't getting any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Studham Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 the title made me laugh....we havnt heard catcher live at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 thats a ridiculous asumption. just coz TAT hasnt been played much. madagascar, chinese democracyhave only been played occasionally on the tour, silkworms and rhiads havent been played at all this tour, and cathcher has never been played. plus the songs weve never heard like atlas shrugged and prostitute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 It isn't good enough to be released as a single. The demo version is a mess.Better would be okay, but they can't play that live.They would need to bring out a better song than the demos to have any impact on the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixtus Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 ..could also be a mental thing..(..look at the lyrics...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwideboss Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I think T.W.A.T. could be a good single to release later, because it has great guitar work and would appeal more to the die-hard fans. But I would prefer Better or The Blues first... I.R.S. is in the same situation as T.W.A.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt13 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 thats a ridiculous asumption. just coz TAT hasnt been played much. madagascar, chinese democracyhave only been played occasionally on the tour, silkworms and rhiads havent been played at all this tour, and cathcher has never been played. plus the songs weve never heard like atlas shrugged and prostituteI disagree... not that TWAT will be the next single or not... but I think it was a good brainstorm. They could have potentially been getting video footage for a music video... all the concerts appeared to be pro-shot. On top of that, the light show during TWAT was far and away the best of any of the songs played on opening night in NY... in my opinion.So I think it's a possibility.As for the idiot who said TWAT is 'a mess' if fooling themselves. Demo or not, in my opinion is the strongest song of the leaked bunch to date. My non-GNR groupie friends who I've shared the demo's with all think TWAT is pretty amazing and the best of the bunch too. A local DJ even plays it quite often at a popular pup in these parts... too:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Axl Kev Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 It isn't good enough to be released as a single. The demo version is a mess.Better would be okay, but they can't play that live.They would need to bring out a better song than the demos to have any impact on the charts.Sorry what's messy about the demo exactly? It's not like they are gonna release a demo. I've heard a lot of people say the demo is a mess but I've gained the impression they had not a clue what they were talking about so an explanation would be appreciated please.I think 'Better' is great but the only thing, which would put the general public off is the sudden transition to un-GN'R like heavy metal half way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 It isn't good enough to be released as a single. The demo version is a mess.Better would be okay, but they can't play that live.They would need to bring out a better song than the demos to have any impact on the charts.Sorry what's messy about the demo exactly? It's not like they are gonna release a demo. I've heard a lot of people say the demo is a mess but I've gained the impression they had not a clue what they were talking about so an explanation would be appreciated please.I think 'Better' is great but the only thing, which would put the general public off is the sudden transition to un-GN'R like heavy metal half way through.The demo of TWAT just doesn't flow properly. Its more a collection of musical ideas than a song. Perhaps better production and stuff would make it fit, but it just doesn't scream out quality to me at the moment.Catcher in the Rye is a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-GenerationX Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 It isn't good enough to be released as a single. The demo version is a mess.Better would be okay, but they can't play that live.They would need to bring out a better song than the demos to have any impact on the charts.Sorry what's messy about the demo exactly? It's not like they are gonna release a demo. I've heard a lot of people say the demo is a mess but I've gained the impression they had not a clue what they were talking about so an explanation would be appreciated please.I think 'Better' is great but the only thing, which would put the general public off is the sudden transition to un-GN'R like heavy metal half way through.The demo of TWAT just doesn't flow properly. Its more a collection of musical ideas than a song. Perhaps better production and stuff would make it fit, but it just doesn't scream out quality to me at the moment.Catcher in the Rye is a lot better.If anything, what I highlighted in bold describes CITR to a tee. That tune has no flow whatsoever. Its seems like 3 or 4 songs crammed together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I think T.W.A.T. could be a good single to release later, because it has great guitar work and would appeal more to the die-hard fans. But I would prefer Better or The Blues first... I.R.S. is in the same situation as T.W.A.T.the blues? no way. he may as well release a remix of fog on the tyne and he'd get more radio play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undercovergunner Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 It seems axl really gets into twat............more than the other songs but doesnt play it much so maybe he is holding back because twat is worthy of playing everynight.All the other 02 and current songs are just ok and they play them alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 TWAT is a complete throwback to UYI. I for one love it! IRS and Better are throwaway tracks. Same as how Shotgun Blues was on UYI2 and how Estranged was the epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November_rain Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I don´t think the first single will be one of the leaks. I bet you all that the first single will be a song any of us has heard before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Manson Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 From a profitable point of view, I would Have I.R.S as the first single.Why? Because out of all the 'nu' songs, it seems to posess a certain 'old Gnr' thing about it. And people might buy into it because of that, plus they would be getting some fucking kick ass stuff from The new band as well.Its simple, its hard, and its Baz's fav!! Nuff said!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 The title of this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack99 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I don´t think the first single will be one of the leaks. I bet you all that the first single will be a song any of us has heard before.I hope so too. A brand new rock songs that will blow us away! B) Even if I like I.R.S. more and more I still think T.W.A.T. (shortened and faster) has a better chance of being a hit and help launch CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 IRS is the Shotguns Blues of the new material. Great song but its not the album launching mega single the band requires.The version GNR did of Better at Download would be far better. But they haven't pulled it off anything like as well as they did there at any of the other shows and it would be a bad move to have them play it during the promotion of it as a single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tat2d1 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I don´t think the first single will be one of the leaks. I bet you all that the first single will be a song any of us has heard before.Agreed. I think it'll be a song we haven't heard yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt13 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 IRS is the Shotguns Blues of the new material. Great song but its not the album launching mega single the band requires.The version GNR did of Better at Download would be far better. But they haven't pulled it off anything like as well as they did there at any of the other shows and it would be a bad move to have them play it during the promotion of it as a single.Man... must have been cool to have been at every show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Axl Kev Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 'I.R.S' is a far better song than 'Shotgun Blues'. I would like that to be the single too actually and despite what people say about Finck's solo early on in the song I think it rocks. Charlie is right, when I let a friend at work hear the leaks (he's a 'It's not GN'R without Slash' guy) he said that 'I.R.S' was his favourite because it sounds traditionally Guns N' Roses esq. rock1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undercovergunner Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 The 99 demo feature irs and twat maybe catcher so they were the singles back then who's to say things have changed?Axl has said he loves twat so I say he goes all in on twat..............damn that sounds so filthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 IRS is the Shotguns Blues of the new material. Great song but its not the album launching mega single the band requires.The version GNR did of Better at Download would be far better. But they haven't pulled it off anything like as well as they did there at any of the other shows and it would be a bad move to have them play it during the promotion of it as a single.Man... must have been cool to have been at every show Don't laugh. Some people have been.Almost all of all of the shows are available on the internet. Some not the best quality, but you can tell how well things went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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