ZoSoRose Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hey Marc, just curious,Why was Axl cool with you being close with both him and Slash from 96-07? It seems Axl does not support people being friends with both so what was that like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 That is a good question, I don't really know. Maybe because he knew that I go back so far with both of them and axl and i were very close. I think my wife and I were just grandfathered in. There were just a few people that were aloud to be in touch with slash and I think he liked the fact that I could maybe be the one to get slash to turn things around someday. I guess that's probably one of the reasons why I thought it would still be ok for me to put out the book. Axl always had a lot or respect for me and trusted my opinion. My big mistake was not talking to him directly about what was going on with my book instead of the people in the camp. It turned out to be a poor choice by me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 That is a good question, I don't really know. Maybe because he knew that I go back so far with both of them and axl and i were very close. I think my wife and I were just grandfathered in. There were just a few people that were aloud to be in touch with slash and I think he liked the fact that I could maybe be the one to get slash to turn things around someday. I guess that's probably one of the reasons why I thought it would still be ok for me to put out the book. Axl always had a lot or respect for me and trusted my opinion. My big mistake was not talking to him directly about what was going on with my book instead of the people in the camp. It turned out to be a poor choice by meMaybe leave him a vm; send him a text; or shoot him a email stating that if you haven't already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Now there are many reasons why he wouldn't want to talk to me. I think he would be easier to get over the book thing by now but all the interviews that I do and talking about the old band on this site is just too much for him to handle. I'm in too deep to stop now. Plus I enjoy helping people find out info that they want to know about. I'm sure if we ran into each other there would be a lot to talk about and I think it could be the start to healing the wounds between us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock4eva Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 So you think he reads this site and takes in what is said about him? The fat Axl jokes & memes about him would be offensive to him or do you think if he sees them he doesn't care and isn't hurt by things said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I know he has sean things that he doesn't like. I don't think he reads the site but I'm sure his camp does from time to time. I don't think it would be very healthy for him to read these sites because he doesn't take criticism well and as you already know there all some real Assholes on some of these sites that are just a bunch of pigs. The fact that he said he didn't read Duff's book in an interview was a sign that he has learned to back away from things like this. I know a few times he read interviews that I did and had some real big problems with the things that I have said. Although I stick up for him it doesn't matter because as soon as I say anything good about Slash it kills the whole thing and he ends thinking that somehow I bad mouthed him. He has thanked me for sticking up for him before but can't deal with the fact that I ride the fence between him and Slash. Also regardless he doesn't want the old band promoted and even though I have good things to say about the new band, it doesn't work for him. Maybe someday he will see where I'm coming from and will be able to respect it but for now it has to be the way it is. I will go on doing the things I believe is right and he will go on and do what he thinks is right. Edited January 23, 2014 by recklessroad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock4eva Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Thanks Marc, and great book by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 So would you say reading Slash's book was a mistake Axl learned from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) I guess you can say that but, either way there would have been quotes from it in the press and the internet so he still would have heard things. The thing is that if he had to do it all over again I think he still would have read Slash's book. There is just too much that went wrong between them for Axl not to see what Slash had to say where with Duff it was a lot different. Also I know Slash didn't read Duff's book either but, I bet if Axl did one that Slash would read it. Edited January 24, 2014 by recklessroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock4eva Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Slash didn't say much about Axl that was detrimental, it was just going over old ground that fans would know anyway. He didn't slam him but did say how he loved him & how close they were at one time. Maybe too close, that's when friendships fall apart is when one knows too much about the other's personal life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'm pretty sure that Axl has a whole list of things that Slash said that Axl doesn't agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'm pretty sure that Axl has a whole list of things that Slash said that Axl doesn't agree with.True but there are also disagreements between Slash and Duff books. In fact both mentioned that those are their own recolection and memories. And they understand that other members may have other point of view and memories about the events. They are open about someone else´s side of the story.If they complaint about Axl being 2 hours late at gigs for no reason. We all do. We all witness that Axl goes to stage 2 hours late. Axl can´t expect an standing ovation from the whole world for doing that. The problem was that Slash and Duff decided to get drunk instead of being real men a confront Axl. But they addressed that in their book. And they regret not doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) believe me the smallest detail can piss Axl off. Also he can easily misunderstand some things too. He also has some problems seeing that there may be 2 sides to a story with neither one being wrong or lying about something. For what ever reason he is not always able to see it from the other person perspective and therefor puts the blame on them. That is one of the reasons I can't blame him for not seeing or understanding things that went wrong between Slash and him or even between me and him. Thats just the way I think he is wired and it's not his fault. Edited January 25, 2014 by recklessroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I feel a little bit sorry for Duff here. Neither of his bandmates were interested in his book. It was well written and to the best of my knowledge written by himself. It was a much more personal journey too, I think Axl and Slash should have read it. :-( 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.wa.T Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Duffs book was very good. I liked it better then Slash's. It was cool that Duff thanked each of his former bandmates individually at the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Why has Slash not read Duff's book Marc? It cannot be that he is not a reader as I remember him saying that he liked the novelist Graham Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 He is a reader but for what ever reason he said that he didn't read it and was not going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFromDetox Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Do you think Axl read Steven's book, or is it true that he actually didn't write most of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Do you think Axl read Steven's book, or is it true that he actually didn't write most of it?All of them had a ghost writer. They are musicians not writers. However Duff went to college so he took writing classes. That´s an advantage over Slash and Steven. So Duff was capable to add more writing to his book. So how it works? The ghost writer inteviewed and recorded on tape the stories they were telling. And he edited whatever draft they had written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I would bet that Axl read Steven's book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBA Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Marc, have you ever considered just driving to Axl's house, ringing the buzzer, and see where things go from there? All the negative scenarios be damned.[edit]Or have you already tried something like this in recent years and it didn't go so well? Edited January 26, 2014 by BBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessroad Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) The book was one thing but the fact that I keep talking about the old band is nothing but a buzz kill for Axl. So yes I think if I went over there and tried to patch things up, I would have to stop doing interviews and talking on the forms. That doesn't work for me because I like doing it. So for now things will have to be the way they are. If I could go back in time to 1994 and tell him that one day he is not going to want to talk to me because I'm promoting the work that I did that he was so happy with and what the band did from the club days. There would be no way that he would believe me. Things changed for him and he just doesn't want to relive those times anymore. I didn't realize how much my book was going to suck me in to all this. I think if things would have gone better with the publisher that I picked, that I could have just put out the book did a few interviews and some promotion for it and moved on. Because I had to do so much my self to help get the book out, and because so many people still don't know about my work is why I have to keep on it. It's like a child of mine and I love to brag about it. For Axl, it's like the wedding album that he was a part of and because Slash and him had such a falling out (Divorce) is why he no longer loves it. I don't really blame him for no longer loving it but i didn't think he would no longer talk to me because of it knowing how much it meant to me. Edited January 26, 2014 by recklessroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFromDetox Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Do you think Axl read Steven's book, or is it true that he actually didn't write most of it?All of them had a ghost writer. They are musicians not writers. However Duff went to college so he took writing classes. That´s an advantage over Slash and Steven. So Duff was capable to add more writing to his book. So how it works? The ghost writer inteviewed and recorded on tape the stories they were telling. And he edited whatever draft they had written.Thanks for that. I know what a ghost writer is but there was this whole thing that raised questions about how real the book was: http://www.thegnrsyndicate.com/interviews.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Do you think Axl read Steven's book, or is it true that he actually didn't write most of it?All of them had a ghost writer. They are musicians not writers. However Duff went to college so he took writing classes. That´s an advantage over Slash and Steven. So Duff was capable to add more writing to his book. So how it works? The ghost writer inteviewed and recorded on tape the stories they were telling. And he edited whatever draft they had written.Thanks for that. I know what a ghost writer is but there was this whole thing that raised questions about how real the book was: http://www.thegnrsyndicate.com/interviews.phpOh that! I remember reading something similar on the matter. I don´t know what went on. Nor I know if some stories on Steven´s book are made up by him or other people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 So yes I think if I went over there and tried to patch things up, I would have to stop doing interviews and talking on the forms. That doesn't work for me because I like doing it. Marc, I ask this with respect. Does that mean that you value PR liberty over your friendship with Axl Rose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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