IndiannaRose

Axl happened.

Newsflash. Not everyone has the same music tastes as you. That's what makes us individuals.

Well then, in that case, Sorry has a Pink Floyd vibe to it. That's my opinion as an, umm, individual.

I think your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

Ditto.

Newsflash. Not everyone has the same music tastes as you. That's what makes us individuals.

Well then, in that case, Sorry has a Pink Floyd vibe to it. That's my opinion as an, umm, individual.

I haven't heard a single Chinese Democracy song come on the radio since about 2009 or so. Imo, 'Better' would have performed exceptionally well as a lead single....oh well. Unfortunately, the reality is that the album made a rather unimpressive impact in the music industry and in popular culture in general.

That statement could apply to many different things. As a matter of fact, in my opinion, such statement greatly applies to posters such as yourself who love to speculate for the sake of promoting a strongly biased and negative agenda. Boo-hoo.

I started reading this forum in 2002 and joined in 2003. I also posted in Mygnr's more primitive 'message board' from 2001 to 2003.

I'm starting to think I may be the longest serving active member right now and that's a trifle worrying.

Damn, I had no idea you had been posting for that long! Haha, I've been here since 03' and I don't think we've spoken before.

We always discuss, debate and argue about how one slimmed down UYI album might've been as good as AFD, would've sold more, etc etc, that it's hard to put two albums against AFD, etc...But instead of that, what about if the UYI albums were simply one double album. Two CDs in one set: Use Your Illusion, a two CD double album. It then would've been one album--UYI--and would not only have had all the songs, but would've been the equivalent to GN'R's Exile or Physical Graffiti. It in retrospect might've been the best way to go about it--Anyone agree?

This probably occurred as the record company most likely thought that a double-album would be too expensive for GN'R's then-juvenile fan base to afford. Furthermore, an argument could be made that by releasing the Use Your Illusion project in two separate discs the band's record sales would be inflated, which could have been seen by Geffen as a PR tool in promoting GN'R as a commercially superior band.

The answer to your question is yes. But then that's what sets Axl and GNR apart from bands like Motley Crue, Velvet Revolver, modern day Aerosmith or Slash's solo band. One thing you could never accuse Chinese Democracy of being is throwaway. Infact Axl's songwriting nearly always has huge personal significance to him. That's why GNR's music resonates so strongly despite their relatively small canon of work.

I respectfully disagree 100% with you.

At which point of GnR's career do you thin they released the biggest depth of quality material?

From July 1987 through 1991, the band released four albums.

87 - Appetite

88 - Lies

91 - Illusions

91 - Illusions

In that four year period, they released songs like Jungle, SCOM, Paradise City, Nightrain, Patience, You're Crazy, November Rain, YCBM, Don't Cry.....do I need to go on?

From 1999 through 2012, what has Axl done? One album.

So I really don't understand how anything in your post makes any amount of sense. Everything you say seems to contradict itself.

The time period where Guns n Roses and Axl produced the greatest amount of quality of work was during a 4.5 year period where they released FOUR albums of material.

And your "throw away" example is just ridiculous.

Only on this forum is NOT releasing music considered a good thing - and bands that regularly release music are considered to be doing something bad.

You might not personally like bands like Motley Crue, Slash, Metallica, BJ, etc - but how do you think their fans feel?

Do you think they sit at home and go "Dang, I sure wish my favorite band would STOP putting out new music. I hate that they just put out a new album and in 2-3 years they are going to release more new music for the FANS TO ENJOY. I sure wish my favorite band would only put out an album every 10 years." See how idiotic that sounds.

Lastly - how big of an Axl fan are you?

I have no doubt that Axl and the band have the ability and talent to create a quality album every 4 years. You, and a few others, on the other hand, seem to think Axl only has the abilty to create a quality album every 10-15 years. Why do you feel he isn't capable of doing more? You think he just doesn't have the talent?

What the fuck? You completely misinterpreted his post and rambled nonsensically.

p.s. Haha, it looks like you and I saw the same thing, The Only Cosmonaut!

What is "nonsensically" about what I said?

"But then that's what sets Axl and GNR apart from bands like Motley Crue, Velvet Revolver, modern day Aerosmith or Slash's solo band. One thing you could never accuse Chinese Democracy of being is throwaway"

Maybe the three of you haven't been following the boards much over the past couple of years.

There is an ongoing theme where Axl's most die-hard fans on here will chirp in whenever somebody complains about the lack of music Axl has chosen to release since keeping the GnR name alive.

And the response is always the same.

Chinese democracy and the 10 year wait shows that Axl is filled with integrity, because he doesn't go the route of bands like Slash, BJ, Metallica, Motley Crue, etc who just release music on a regular basis so they can make money.

I was in a discussion with somebody on this forum about a month ago and they actually said that Metallica was RIPPING OFF their fans because they released 9 albums in the past 16 years, and Axl had more integrity than Metallica, because he refused to do that. Think about that.

Nobody ever says "I'm glad Axl Rose doesn't release new music, I hope he doesn't release music except once a decade."

BUT when you say that Axl has integrity because he doesn't release music on a regular basis like other bands...........surely you aren't so big of an Axl fan that you lost your ability to think logically.

Towlie's statement is silly.

Axl's greatest time period of releasing music is when they were the MOST productive and prolific, and the band had a lot of throw-a-way songs during those four years. Have you heard Anything Goes?

The rest of my comment was based on the feeling that Axl is at his best when he only releases an album every decade, as that shows he has more intergity than the bands that regularly release new music. Which is said on this forum a LOT.

Towlie made his statement in regards to the subject matter that is dealt with in Axl's songs. How often Axl releases material is completely irrelevant to the point that Towlie was trying to make. I said that you were "rambling nonsensically" because what you said had little to nothing to do with Towlie's central argument.

The answer to your question is yes. But then that's what sets Axl and GNR apart from bands like Motley Crue, Velvet Revolver, modern day Aerosmith or Slash's solo band. One thing you could never accuse Chinese Democracy of being is throwaway. Infact Axl's songwriting nearly always has huge personal significance to him. That's why GNR's music resonates so strongly despite their relatively small canon of work.

I respectfully disagree 100% with you.

At which point of GnR's career do you thin they released the biggest depth of quality material?

From July 1987 through 1991, the band released four albums.

87 - Appetite

88 - Lies

91 - Illusions

91 - Illusions

In that four year period, they released songs like Jungle, SCOM, Paradise City, Nightrain, Patience, You're Crazy, November Rain, YCBM, Don't Cry.....do I need to go on?

From 1999 through 2012, what has Axl done? One album.

So I really don't understand how anything in your post makes any amount of sense. Everything you say seems to contradict itself.

The time period where Guns n Roses and Axl produced the greatest amount of quality of work was during a 4.5 year period where they released FOUR albums of material.

And your "throw away" example is just ridiculous.

Only on this forum is NOT releasing music considered a good thing - and bands that regularly release music are considered to be doing something bad.

You might not personally like bands like Motley Crue, Slash, Metallica, BJ, etc - but how do you think their fans feel?

Do you think they sit at home and go "Dang, I sure wish my favorite band would STOP putting out new music. I hate that they just put out a new album and in 2-3 years they are going to release more new music for the FANS TO ENJOY. I sure wish my favorite band would only put out an album every 10 years." See how idiotic that sounds.

Lastly - how big of an Axl fan are you?

I have no doubt that Axl and the band have the ability and talent to create a quality album every 4 years. You, and a few others, on the other hand, seem to think Axl only has the abilty to create a quality album every 10-15 years. Why do you feel he isn't capable of doing more? You think he just doesn't have the talent?

What the fuck? You completely misinterpreted his post and rambled nonsensically.

p.s. Haha, it looks like you and I saw the same thing, The Only Cosmonaut!

I think at times Axl, when he writes, tries too hard. I mean, I've never really seen Axl make a totally fanciful song outside of Used to Love Her. What I mean is, Mick and Keith were able to survive musically cause they didn't have a fixation with telling the truth. They had fun with the music, and would tell stories. I mean, does anybody believe Mick Jagger was ever a "Street Fighting Man"? Most of their songs are rock n' roll fairy tales, but in a good way. It's imagery, creating an image. In the song, we can buy into Jagger as a badass. They have fun with the music, joke around; In Rock in general not many rockers take themselves or the music too seriously. It's all in fun, it's all an escape. For Axl, he really seems to try and pour his soul, or his life as it is at the moment, or his feelings, into a song. We'd never have a Honky Tonk Woman written by Axl in terms of just a song with mindlessly fun lyrics about shit that never happened. Given all this, do you think Axl takes music and himself way too seriously, way too honestly--and always has? Is it a part of the appeal of W. Axl Rose--that everything he writes is genuine shit from his POV?

Umm, yes. That is one of the reasons why people find Axl Rose to be so fascinating. Some people find it to be a flaw; others do not. I think it's both. Imo, it is this genuine trait that sets him apart from the so-called 'rockstars' of today, while it also hinders him from releasing new material.

The answer to your question is yes. But then that's what sets Axl and GNR apart from bands like Motley Crue, Velvet Revolver, modern day Aerosmith or Slash's solo band. One thing you could never accuse Chinese Democracy of being is throwaway. Infact Axl's songwriting nearly always has huge personal significance to him. That's why GNR's music resonates so strongly despite their relatively small canon of work.

Bingo.

Great setlist - hope it was great for those who went!

What the fuck? It's the same setlist of the last 60 shows.

And it's a great fuckin' setlist.

This is most definitely a pre-Appetite Axl (pre-1986). I am more than 1,000% sure. His tone of voice is very reminiscent to the tone he had in the Hollywood Rose demos.

I must agree...Axl's voice is pure ecstasy tonight.

In the venue. Opening band sucks.

I bought a ticket to this show while I was blacked out drunk this weekend. Oh, the wonders of alcohol. Just received my ticket confirmation today (which I had no idea about), so I'll be seeing some of you there. It'll be a killer show!

Here's a picture of Axl I took:

I'll post more pictures and a review tomorrow. It was an incredible show. I also met the girl who's hugging Axl in that short video taken backstage. She was incredibly annoying.

Nope. However, ironically, the only GN'R song (that I can remember) that has ever made me tear up is...Don't Cry.

You hvek a wicked sig!

Thanks! It's much appreciated.

Nope. However, ironically, the only GN'R song (that I can remember) that has ever made me tear up is...Don't Cry.

Honestly, this whole thing was handled quite terribly. Such mishandling of the situation has had multiple unnecessary effects. Having said that, I am absolutely stoked that this forum will keep on running. This is by far my favorite website to visit. I cordially thank the anonymous donor and greatly appreciate his contribution. However, I am more than sure that UK Subs would have run this forum extremely well had this donor not come forward. Overall, I am more than glad to still be able to visit my viral home!

This cover is absolutely stellar. The female vocalist and drummer completely nail the song. Her phrasing is just dead-on. In addition to that, I completely enjoy the 'clean' vocal approach. To hear people try to imitate Axl's voice is completely annoying (imo) as there isn't a single person in this planet who could perfectly replicate his voice...so, why even bother?

This is a fantastic effort.

Why are people even bringing Slash into this? What does the Moscow show have to do with him? Absolutely nothing. Having said that, why are you all making such a big deal of this? Do you all honestly believe that just because these people are wealthy that they are not allowed to enjoy a Guns N' Roses show?...That they are not capable of it? Let me guess, the wealthy couldn't possibly be fans of the music of Guns N' Roses...Right? Nonsense. So many posters make so much drama of nothing. Sides are taken (Axl vs. Slash) and useless, pointless arguments arise. This is complete absurdity.

Get used to it, this is a mainstream band. It's a cashcow. These kind of events come with the territory. Though, that does not take away from the musicianship; not one bit. What idiocy.

Guns N' Roses isn't mainstream.

They've sold over 100 million records globally. They've recorded some of the best known songs of all time (Sweet Child O' Mine, Paradise City, etc...). They have released the highest selling debut album of all time. The list goes on and on. This isn't some niche band/brand (whatever you wanna call it). They may not be all over the radio like Lady Gaga, but they are still very well known.

Why are people even bringing Slash into this? What does the Moscow show have to do with him? Absolutely nothing. Having said that, why are you all making such a big deal of this? Do you all honestly believe that just because these people are wealthy that they are not allowed to enjoy a Guns N' Roses show?...That they are not capable of it? Let me guess, the wealthy couldn't possibly be fans of the music of Guns N' Roses...Right? Nonsense. So many posters make so much drama of nothing. Sides are taken (Axl vs. Slash) and useless, pointless arguments arise. This is complete absurdity.

Get used to it, this is a mainstream band. It's a cashcow. These kind of events come with the territory. Though, that does not take away from the musicianship; not one bit. What idiocy.

How the hell Bon Jovi played 20 nights in a row there?!

I was thinking the same thing a few days ago

I mean to the general public haven't they only one hit? I'll probably be proved wrong but most people only seem to know Living on a Prayer

Bon Jovi have had 18 'Top 10' hits in the UK Singles Chart.

I've been to many concerts in my life, AC/DC, Metallica, Guns N' Roses... but Bon Jovi was the best! BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!

The concert was perfect in very possible term, seriously, they were on fire.

I know there's a whole script they follow on every concert, but they were very, very excited, specialy Jon and Richie, they were very spontaneos last night.

Jon even said "Some people are getting too excited out there!"

When We Got It Going On finished, the crowd kept singing the riff, and Richie took his own cellphone to film it.

I don't know who got more excited last night. The band with the fans or the fans with the band. It was a SOLD OUT concert, 65,000 people, and it was so tight there... But we did sing all the riffs, lyrics, everything. We jumped on every single music, every single second, and the band loved that.

I know Jon loves when he sees that the crowd is enjoying the music. I mean, he finds creepy all that "JON MARRY ME PLEASE" stuff... And he was very impressed.

It was Tico's birthday and we managed to get the whole stadium singing for him, it was great.

I took a poster written "THESE DAYS!!!", and once the cameras filmed it! And they played These Days, it was awesome! Even songs that almost everyone criticises here in Brazil, like Captain Crash and Who Say's, got outstanding reception, everyone jumped and singed on every song, every second, no joke.

And I managed to get a sambora guitar pick!

It was the best day of my life, I'll never forget. Thanks Bon Jovi for this awesome day, I hope I can see you again soon, please don't take more 15 years to come back!

Yea, you def. post at Dry County.