CAFC Nick

I remember everyone discussing how amazing this was at the time, back in 06, but until the other day I hadn't really heard it. I think I heard a version they played of this at the Cuckoo Club? This is truly INCREDIBLE. One of my favourite Axl performances of all time.

Really not getting my hopes up on this. Plans change too frequently. They could be working on new music, but by that token they worked on Chinese Democracy for 10+ years before it actually came out.

Thanks Eric and MyGNR.

I see...

Is it possible to make it louder? I mean, more clear.

Like it was done to Sebastian Bach at the Sorry chorus, someone made it crystal clear.

And just for the record, a lot of Autotune

Well it's not that much hidden during live performances. But it should've been more front in the album mix.

Not really... I mean, it's not supposed to be there, is it? Ron recorded the solo to be put there, so I'd guess they would completely remove Buckethead solo.

The Baz autotune was crystal clear in the 'Additional Instruments' .mogg of 'Sorry'.

inb4someonesaysheneedsthecashbecausehewassackedbyaxl.

So its Catcher and Atlas (knowledge that has been around for the past 3-5 years or so - I guess since Catcher leaked back in '06), but I wonder what the other 'half' song he worked on was? Was it one of the rumoured/confirmed titles from the CD sessions?

Sweet Child O'Mine?

Haha that made me chuckle a lot.

This is hardly confirmation lol

I don't understand your issue with BBF's role on the album. The album was largely written and completed by the time BBF joined and still he played on every track and had solos on several tracks. The only other option I would see to give BBF a larger role would be to discard some of CD material.

One possible legitimate reason the band hasn't entered the studio is that perhaps the focus right now is not on new material, but on arranging a US tour. Perhaps, after a long year of touring in 2010, Axl just wants to relax and focus on getting the US tour together prior to doing anything else? Also, perhaps there is no desire to discard the other CD-era material in favor of starting fresh with the current band? Perhaps, the focus for the future in terms of album releases will be to get another record out of the CD sessions rather than discarding that material completely.

The problem I see is that either new material is written and recorded at the expense of the rest of the CD-era material, or new material is held off on until the CD-era material is released completely as Axl wants it. I don't see wanting to release additional CD-era material as being at the disservice of the current lineup because that doesn't preclude fresh material being written with the current lineup down the road. However, discarding any additional CD-era material would be a great disservice to everyone who put their heart and soul into that material, as well as the fans who would like to hear it.

And, I don't think you can release any material the CD sessions and NOT market it as being representative of GN'R currently. The only option would be to not release that material at all, which again, is not a reasonable option to me.

Ali

I have no problem whatsoever with Bumblefoot's “role” on “Chinese Democracy”. My issue is with you seemingly legitimizing the notion that Axl respects Ron's studio “prowess” because he allowed him to play a fairly elementary role on the album (people may prefer certain aspects of the record contributed by Thal, but the reality is had he not featured at all the majority's opinion would be relatively unchanged).

Wouldn't you agree that “new” material of some sort would enhance the possibility of a U.S tour being successful? Its seems a bit chancy (for want of a better word) to tour behind material the majority of people in America weren't taken aback by, as such. With more songs at the band's disposal (through downtime recording or unreleased existing material) surely there's a greater capacity for success (as I've said)?

Don't you see the illegitimacy in releasing albums comprised between 1999-2008 as representative of GN'R ala 2009? The rest of “Chinese Democracy” can be put out there without being credited as Guns N' Roses' seventh studio album (by releasing it as part of the initial album release as opposed to another concept entirely).

Buckethead and Finck's efforts should not be tampered with by Dj or Ron. In the same way that Buckethead's or Finck's prior involvement should not compromise the immediate potential of this “new” line-up (by Axl continually prolonging their now defunct role when he could just as easily close that chapter for good).

Again, I didn't propose “Chinese Democracy” II/III be released under another pseudonym or brand. What I did propose is that all of the material from that particular era be marketed under one concept (the initial “Chinese Democracy” release).

In my opinion Axl should clearly signal his intention to collaborate with Dj and Ron (in the studio) or stop kidding himself and give Buckethead/Robin a call.

This guy gets it.

I am dying to hear the rest of the music from the Chinese Democracy sessions.

Good interview, Ron.

Good to get an incite, and I think he has quite a fan's perspective on a few things such as how GN'R deal with press etc.

Just picked up the Red Hand cover at a used record store in LA today...for $5! Totally shocked to see it. The new artwork is both cool and weird. There's an alien rape painting for Shackler's Revenge. Still like the bike cover and the pics of the band in the original release...but it's cool to have the correct lyrics and a few additional liner notes from Axl.

What's interesting is that the back says Copyright 2008-2009

Pics of GTFO.

Well GN'R doesn't really need to come back with any new matieral; GN'R are pretty irrelevant in modern music IMHO.

However, I think it would be great for the die-hard fans to hear some, if not all, of the backlog of music from the Finck/Buckethead era.

Wheres the original video of the audio?

It was the fanmade video that surfaced online around the time that CD came out with a guy dressed up as BBF, Bucket and Slash and playing along with the songs; haven't seen the video in so long and am quite intrigued to see it again.

Bumblefoot is probably more talented; he is probably a lot more educated in guitar in terms of theory etc.

However, its all down to opinion really, and if I'm honest I just prefer Bucket's sound.

I also wonder when the CD songs were written and recorded, and what the oldest song is on there--Oldest lyrically, that is.

This I Love 1992

Catcher 199?

CD 1999

TWAT 1999

Prostitute 1999

The Blues 2000

Madagascar 2000/01

IRS 2001

Rhiad 2001

If The World 2001

Better 2002 (?)

Sorry 2003/04

Scraped 2005

Shackler 2005

Just an educated guess from when I first heard (about) them.

Shackler's and Scraped are both predominantly Buckethead songs, so they have to be dated to pre-2004.

To all that don't know:

the girl on the right is Sasha Volkova - Ukrainian model, that has been hanging out with Axl since 2006

And she is the one credited for some of the artwork in the Chinese Democracy booklet.

Happy birthday Axl rose

Very cool indeed, it's a shame that the sound quality is that bad.

I love Ron's voice in the first part of the song, he's quite a talented singer as well.

Ron is an extremely talented singer.

Somehow I don't think they will be playing France in March.

Axl said that Sorry was based on many things, like each portion of the lyrics relates to something different. One of those subjects is Slash, in my view anyway, so when Axl says the song isn't about Slash he isn't lying, the song was not written purely with Slash in mind, just certain lyrics relate to him.

This guy has got it spot on. I don't think it's purely about slash, but to say that it has absolutely nothing to do with slash is very naive.

'That was denied and I didn't walk till several months after having 3 to 4 hour phone conversations nearly every day with Slash trying to reach a compromise. I was specifically told no lyrics, no melodies, no changes to anything and to sing what I was told or fuck off.'

Sorry lyrics: "Just shut up and sing"

Would be a bit of a PR disaster if he came right out and said that 'Sorry' was about Slash.

So an album is supposed to come out in winter, yet there will be a single out within a week? No chance.

Yeh I saw this too...

Interesting