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18 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

It wasn't deleted. Duff's story is still up

But no sound? Maybe I've heard it elsewhere.

It does sound like Axl, that second and a half, but it could be anything. Anyway, how pathetic is the fact they delete even short shit like this? They present themselves like some government secret, for god's sake. Just don't give fans anything, what if they downloaded it and thus destroyed the future album and in fact the entire internet! 

20 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

What do you suggest he should wear instead?

What he wears at sound checks. 

9 minutes ago, Billy Cundy said:

Don’t know if I’d call live guest appearances ‘collaborations’. Typically a collaboration involves writing and recording of a track with another artist.. Which he/GNR were partial to - ‘Under My Wheels’/‘the Garden’ with Alice Cooper, ‘I did you no harm’ with Steve Jones, tracks on Angel Down by Sebastian Bach, the stuff on UYI with Shannon Hoon, and my personal favourite… ‘I will not go Quietly’ with Don Henley…

Guess he got pretty close to a legitimate collaboration with Brian May… 

In terms of recording, I honestly believe at this point he’s more likely to guest on a Carrie Underwood track than release anymore GNR. They’re proper mateys it seems. 

There's more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axl_Rose#Guest_appearances

Nobody, and definitely not rappers. Maybe he could be a DJ in GTA 6, something like Tommy the Neverreleasenewmusic Nightmare Smith. 

It's about time we have another One in a Million discussion! What a racist, he should be cancelled right now. 

35 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said:

I love taking a few months' break from this forum and then coming back to this thread just to see how much hope is still alive that new music is coming.

It's heartwarming.

Nu music in 6 months (TM)

I never heard of Carrie before this whole Axl/Guns thing (when was it the first time, 2022?), but she sounds good, and also, she’s doing a good job bringing this older music to younger generations. 
All things considered, Axl wasn’t bad either. 

SOYL absolutely could be an opener per se, even if just occasionally (but let’s not fool ourselves, they don’t make changes at the beginning of the set any longer), as it’s one of the songs that Axl can still nail, it’s in the right register; plus it’s an ass-kicker to start off the show with. However, the problem might be the timing – afaik he often couldn’t hear himself or whatever and was off when they played it, and that wouldn’t be good for the beginning of a concert. 

And I don’t even expect Jungle to return as an opener – ISE surely is way easier to sing and suitable to warm up with; he’s not getting any younger, is he. It’s fast-paced and mostly in the low register. Plus the cool bass at the beginning. Clear opener. 

As for PTU, he’d need the middle mild rasp for that one, which he doesn’t do any more, so Idk. I guess we’d end up with another Dead Horse, i.e. better off left in the past. 

Perfect Crime is not happening, I mean come on. 

32 minutes ago, Karice said:

About the infamous Riverport Concert Riot, on another Guns N'Roses Fan Website, I asked something like,"Why was Axl allowed to walk off the stage and go backstage? Someone should have grabbed his hot headed ass and make him finish performing before he reached backstage!"

 

A Poster replied something like,"A German Promotor learned his lesson from the infamous Riverport Concert Riot. Axl got PISSED during a show and walked backstage to leave early, only to see that the backstage door was LOCKED. The German Promotor had locked backstage door just in case Axl got PISSED like he did at the infamous Riverport Concert Riot and tried to leave early. Axl had no choice but to come back to the stage and he delivered the goods with anger in his guts, putting on a good show. After the show, he happily told the German Promotor something like,"Thanks for locking backstage door because you caused me to put on a good show!" 🤣

 

Can anyone tell me what show this was? 😁🤔 It seems like a good show! 😁

 

The British have a nice word for stories like this one: complete bollocks.  

We should ask the Gpt chatbot, or whatever the hell the thing's named. May be interesting.

Assassin’s Creed: Unity. An awesome adventure in lively, revolutionary Paris. The atmosphere is unmatched. 

I hope you guys know this channel:

https://www.youtube.com/@JCS/videos

However, I believe if Slash wanted to, he could say fuck it, let’s throw them at least some bone, and talk with Axl about this. I mean, what could happen to him? Also, yes, I get that Axl got butthurt by all that CD stuff, but that was some two decades ago, with completely different people involved on all sides, so I reckon maybe it’s time to get the shit together and start acting at least a little bit like a normal band. 
The mystery aspect stopped being cool sometime after 2002. 

- AfD: Anything Goes 
- Lies: this is difficult. I almost feel this pressure to go with the crowd and say One in a Million, but you know what? Fuck that, I’ll go with Mama Kin. 
- UYI 1: gonna have to go with Dust N’ Bones 
- UYI 2: (not counting My World) So Fine 
- TSI: This one’s for you, Johnny 
- CD: Scraped 

10 hours ago, Nintari said:

I said figuratively.

For me, the band is finished. They're now in Zeppelin territory. I have the records, I have the memories, I have the officially-released VHS/DVDs, I have the Youtube videos of their glory years etc. Anything they release from 85-93, I will have a serious interest in... but it's over. I have no interest in watching an overweight, sixty-year-old Axl Rose with extreme vocal damage slowly wobble around the stage in clothes that befit a man in his mid-twenties, completely unable to sing his own songs correctly. Ditto for the rest of the guys. They're old, tired and attempting to play a role that was written for drugged-up, pissed off, socially-rejected men in their mid-to-late twenties... and it shows... a lot... and I don't care for it. That's not what I got into this band for, and if they had been this version of themselves back in the late eighties, they never would have gotten a record deal and no one would have cared.

But yes, there's millions of people out there who are willing to pay huge chunks of money to get drunk on crummy, over-priced draft beer and squint at the stage and play make-believe like it's the late eighties or early nineties again for three hours because they can't let go.

I went once in 2016 because it was a bucket-list thing (I could have gone in 1992, but since I wasn't old enough to drive, my mom was able to stop me), and it was literally  (for me), a sad, sobering experience.

I'll never do it again.

While you’re generally right, it begs a question what are you expecting from them in 2023 when you already didn’t like them in 2016. 
Oh and I’m not one of those obnoxious "stop complaining" assholes – complain your heart out if you like. But they’re not getting any better. Are you in just for a potential album? The old CDII stuff? 

I know this festival is big and all, but reading the names, how exactly do GN'R fit there? I don't see anything really similar to them (granted I don't know most of the names). 

The longest ones that I like - Estranged, Coma - plus probably Breakdown. 

None of the top stuff like PC or Jungle, cause that'd drive me nuts out there. 

13 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

I think Slash and Duff have a bit more of a say than is being described here. They apparently were the ones who wanted CD songs in the set, so I assume the 2016 cuts we heard: CD, Better, TWAT, TIL, Catcher, were what Slash and Duff deemed as their favorites off of the album. Stuff that came later, like Prostitue and SOD, especially with the latter being a soulless disaster by Slash, feel like they could've been more of Axl's ideas.

I have a feeling that stuff like Coma, Locomotive, Dead Horse, any UYI deepcuts really, were more of a request from them too. Axl doesn't really seem all that attached to the UYI era, when he was the one 100% calling the shots it was very underrepresented in 2001-2011, until Bumble got us Don't Cry, Estranged and Civil War.

That being said Axl does call all the final shots. How long did the band know Hard Skool before it was played- nearly 2 years? And show after show it appeared on the alt list without it being played live. With the band excitedly rehearsing it every night, it is very safe to say Axl held that one up.

I'm sure it's not that strict though. Someone mentioned Frank wanted to play WLR in 2017, and also in LA 2017 Frank asked to play OTGM. My guess is Axl calls the final shots, but is pretty nonchalant and relaxed with whatever Slash, Duff, and occasionally Frank want to do (withholding new music), as he's basically retired. I wouldn't be surprised if Slash and Duff really have shaped the setlist more than Axl actively has.

I would perceive a difference here between them discussing the general setlist (plus alternatives) for the given leg/tour and between immediate decisions regarding playlists at individual gigs. The former is undoubtedly a collective effort (of the three guys), while the latter is pretty much about Axl and what he can handle that night, IMO. 

He'd look great. And he's reddish, I don't think it'd be too gray/white. 

Absolutely

43 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Because he doesn't consider it to be "horrible"?

Also, I don't think he cares much if a few GN'R nerds can predict the setlist or not . I think he is more focused on making sure the order of songs flows well for him and the crew and that it is a great representation of the band's discography, to please the thousands of people attending the shows. 

Maybe not horrible, but they’re audibly hard for him. And he can’t not be aware of it. And he can’t not be aware of the more or less same playlist either, with negligible alternations between individual shows/legs. I know you know what I’m talking about. 

I still don’t understand why he keeps insisting on doing songs like Better live. Why he just doesn’t drop these things (after 6 years) that are audibly hard for him and bad for the audience. And why he doesn’t alternate songs like RQ or YCBM according to his current form. There are other songs to be played, and by alternating these (who says they have to be played at every gig?), he would get two birds with one stone, because there would be some diversity in the playlist created this way, some element of surprise. But no, the horrible stuff stays, and we can predict the setlist almost exactly every night. *Sigh*