Free Bird

On 4/12/2024 at 8:13 PM, janrichmond said:

I really love the outro. I love Slash but I still prefer Peter Green's version vocally.

The outro is damn good. I love it to but I also think Chris did an awesome job here. Don’t get me wrong, the original is untouchable vocal wise but though Chris sticks close to the original he gives it his own spin. 
But damn, I really prefer this outro to the slow original one.

2 hours ago, Kelmi said:

What time has Mammoth began and what time Slash? Asking from recent concert goers.

Mammoth around 8 and Slash just before 9

1 hour ago, MaskingApathy said:

100%, Fitzy is one of the best. Current GnR would sound 100x better if he (or someone like him) was behind the kit.

I feel the same way. The tour last year was cool and fun to follow online here because of the changes in the set and the overall positive energy but otherwise there's nothing exciting going on there anymore.

LtD was fine but 4 sounded like a demo from a rehearsal. I agree with your 2nd sentence though. I've found that most musicians don't pick up on the finer details in the mix the same way that mixing engineers and producers can.

I agree, LTD wasn’t that bad. 4 is by far Slash’s worst sounding record to date and Mike Clink is the best producer he had. I really hope he keeps it in mind for future releases.

3 minutes ago, ToonGuns said:

Just out of interest, which songs do you think are more cringe in Joe B's repertoire? I can kind of see your point but equally I've always thought Joe did a good job of modernising blues, and his business model seems to work very well (frequently release music, tour regularly, have a live album for every tour etc). 

I thought his work with Beth Hart was pretty dope. Let’s see what Slash did with her.

1 hour ago, Voodoochild said:

I think he used it for Oh Well too. You can hear him attacking the tremolo bar in the outro.

I tried to do some Sherlock work here but I failed hard. You guys are right and this guitar was probably his main guitar for that record.

11 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

 

 

This comment from Youtube lol:

 

@Nitromessiah 7 hours ago

This is one of the worst version of this classic song I've ever heard. Slash wrote 1-3 great licks, and has made an entire career off of it. He's just average at best, but he looks cool doing it.

Out of all opinions in the world, this is one of em.

I think there’s a lot that happens in the background that we are not aware of. 

By the time he finished working on the blues record we didn’t know it existed. 

54 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

Doesn't matter when they'll release it. It will make zero impact anyway when it comes out with zero promotion and as a single song with nothing to follow.

Plus, Monsters isn't exactly a banger that will turn heads - it's just a bit better than the other/ most of the other Chinese leftovers.

Surely all true but honestly, at this point I don’t care for their impact. I hope that they release what they got with the production is as good as possible (😂 I know, that was a good one). Just to get disappointed again because they’ll never release anything newly written, even when Slash said so.

16 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I think he's using that guitar for most of the record, not just one song.

Maybe, I really have no idea.

Wouldn’t plans change that fast in GNR-land, then I’d think they were releasing Monsters this year, probably this summer, but GNR is unpredictable.

2 hours ago, BluegrassBlues said:

Loved it! I'm a huge Chris fan and he and Slash sounded great together, I can't wait for the rest of it to come out. I keep hoping the one with Beth Hart would be released as a single too but it looks like I'm going to have to wait 

I really have no idea but if I had to bet my money I’d say the third single will be released around the time the album is coming on May 17. 
We know he recorded another video with that hollow body guitar in that bar. 
 

If I had to guess I’d say it’s Crossroads with Gary Clarke jr. I can guarantee you it’s not the song with Beth Hart, since that one is 8 min. long.

Edit: Someone with knowledge could tell which song would be a good fit for that guitar. @Voodoochild?

1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

It is, if that's what he wants to do  Again. what is logical in this context is entirely dependent upon what goal you have in mind. If Axl now decided that the songs would be best if they contained the original musicians, then it would only be logical for him to release them that way. Obviously, for the four songs now released, he decided that Slash should be on them, so what he did was logical (regardless of what people might feel about that decision). But if he now decides that, "Fuck it, I'm gonna release the next singel with Paul Huge playing a solo on kazoo even if it means fans will be angry, I will be ridiculed, and it won't sell at all - but that is what I really, really want because that's how that song is supposed to be heard," then it is completely logical to do it. It won't be the best decision from a fiscal perspective, it won't be the best decision if he wants to make the fanbase happy, it won't be the best decision for his legacy, surely, but if when weighing the pros and cons he still decides that that is what he wants to do, then that action is logical per definition.

You won. I’m tired.

1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

I am not talking about any of this at all. You have lost the plot. I am talking about the argument that only one way of going about this is logical, as if it doesn't depend on what the desired outcome is. 

I didn’t lose anything. At this point there’s only one logical way to go. IF Axl releases now songs with BH or Finck, while Slash is in the band, than it’s not logical. It’s not logical to wait for years to reunite with Slash just to use recordings of other guitarists. Recordings you already had. That is not logical. It simply isn’t.
 

1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

Again, what is logical depends on what you want to achieve. You follow this far? If you want to maximize sales, then releasing the music with Slash is logical. Did you get that? All okay to this point? But if you want to keep the music as close to how it was written, then what is logical is to not replace musicians with Slash. So what is logical here really depends on what you want to achieve. Did your brain explode now? Or did you not understand it? What is logical can only be understood in the context of what the end goal is. So when people like @jamillos argue that the only logical thing to do is release music with Slash, that suggests he either doesn't understand this or that he used rhetoric to kind of devalue those who have a different goal than him. Get it?

Dear SoulMonster, you’re a smart guy but sometimes your stubbornness doesn’t do you a favour. Maybe your head is exploding because you can’t deal with reality. You can make up your own truth as long as you want but reality remains. In this case it means you have no single reunion song without Slash. Period. There’s a reason Axl didn’t release songs prior reunion and there’s a reason he releases songs post reunion. IF he wanted the songs as close as they were written he would have released them already. You can twist and wriggle yourself as much as you like but this is not an option. And as long as there isn’t Robin or Bucket on the future releases you simply can’t convince me otherwise. Get that?

58 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

What we are talking about here, @Free Bird, is me reacting to @jamillos saying the only logical thing is to include Slash on new music. My argument is that this "logic" is entirely based on what Axl (read "the band", if so you prefer) wants; if Axl wants to maximize sales, then yes it becomes logical to add Slash to the songs; if Axl wants to please the majority of the fan base, then yes it becomes logical to add Slash to the songs; but if Axl wants to have Bucket on these songs, then it is no longer logical to add Slash to them. You see? The "logic" here is based on what the objective is. Whatever leads to the objective is what is logical. It varied depending on objective. But @jamillosdidn't add this qualifier, he presented it as if there was only one logical thing to do, as if it was a case of 2+4=4, and hence, implicitly, anyone who felt otherwise would be illogical. 

And no, @jamillos, you didn't qualify your original statement to be only about what would be logical to do for the majority of fans, because this is what you wrote:

As you see, you said it was "basic logic" to add Slash and that it "makes no sense" to not add Slash. As if it is a universal truth. A fact. Something that goes beyond motives and goals and desires and preferences. But again, that comes from the perspective of someone who wants it that way; to everyone who doesn't want it that way it ceases to be "logical". 

Lovely. Please point out to me precisely where I used a logical fallacy. Oooh, I can't wait 

I don’t agree. Axl had decades to release the material he got in the vault. He chose to keep it. If theres something to release now, than it’s songs with Axl, Slash and Duff. Not to maximise sales, it’s the band situation that calls for it. And yes, I agree with @jamillos here. It’s the only logical thing to do if they’re gonna release music now. Everything else is wishful thinking by a minority who get wet dreams when they think of BH. And for people like you who like to argue for the sake if arguing.

41 minutes ago, F*ck Fear said:

Much better than 'Killing Floor' in my opinion.

I needed a few listens for Killing Floor but this one has burned into my brain immediately. Can’t wait to listen to it at home on a proper hifi. The production on this record is killing everything I‘ve heard in recent time. Just great.

11 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I have to disagree with the idea that there is some egalitarian situation between the trio, but for the sake of the argument just replace "Axl" with "the partnership" then. My argument isn't affected by this, it still comes down to what they, together, agree on, which is dictated by their preferences. Their decision to add Slash to the songs wasn't determined by some outside logic that could have squashed their own preferences, it was 100% aligned with what they, as a trio, wanted to do. 

I really don’t know what we’re talking about here. Forget all preferences in or outside the band. As long as Slash is in the band there will be just him on lead guitar and maybe Fortus or whoever is playing alongside Slash. Call it logic, preference or whatever you want. It is what it is.

12 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

No, it is only logical IF Axl wants new music to feature Slash. There is no objective logic here. It all comes down to what the Axl wants. If he wanted the songs to feature Buckethead then it would be logical for him to release them with Buckethead. If he wanted to maximize sales revenues, then it is logical to replace Bucket with Slash. If he wanted to keep the songs with the original musicians, then it is logical to not redo them.  If he wanted to please the majority of the fanbase, then it is logical to add Slash to the songs. See, the "logic" here is tied to preferences. This is not mathematics where the truth is objective. It all comes down to what Axl wants. 

Lol no, that’s just your logic. Guns N Roses is not just Axl. It was during the New Guns Era but this is over since 2016. Good morning, sir.

29 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Your argument is that it is some logical that transcends personal preferences and dictates that Slash should be added to these songs. My argument is that you are blatantly wrong. 

No, his point is that it’s logical for GNR to release music with Slash when he’s in the band. Regardless of preferences. And he’s right, of course.

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The 2nd single of Orgy Of The Damned and the shortest cover on the album right after Killing Floor. 

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OIh3P_V_LtI&si=2VQgyhQduth9I8A3

Just an hour until midnight but I have to go to bed now. Have to work tomorrow morning but I already know what my workmates are gonna listen to the whole day. If they want to or not.

1 hour ago, jacdaniel said:

Do you like it? 

Either it’s forgettable or he’s still listening to it nonstop 

5 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

So, how many of you guys watched The General official music video again in the last couple of weeks?

I don’t have friends who like it 😂

16 minutes ago, vloors said:

Listening now 🙂

Its out on Spotify Australia.

 

What do you think? Is it as promising as the snippet?