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18 hours ago, vloors said:

 

This must mean something, maybe not an album, maybe something as simple as another olive branch to Axl... But there’s definitely a message. 

20 minutes ago, Gackt said:

Happy birthday Papa Axl, save a slice of cake for me will you? 

 

Axl most definitely eats all the pie..... 

5 hours ago, Powderfinger said:

Yes that adds up...... 

Thanks for replying though. 

I wonder how much they’re worth...

11 hours ago, scooby845 said:

Probably to 2500 since there was 500 people times 5 sizes ( S M L XL XXL ).

Bow to my impeccable reasoning!

Yes that adds up...... 

Thanks for replying though. 

Highway to your illusions 

Does anyone happen to know how limited the “I was there” shirt from the troubadour gig is? 

2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

I wouldn't say I hate it but I certainly don't consider it a particularly good album irrespective of the personnel.

I’m with DieselDaisy. Irrespective of personnel it doesn’t stand up against the rest of Albums.

If it had been released as a solo Axl album or a side project it might have been received differently. 

The last time people bought a new Guns record they got UYI 1&2, no matter the personnel on CD it was always going to be hard follow up those records.

They had to release 2 records to follow up Appetite! I think I read an interview where one of them said they wanted to bury Appetite with those records. 

I went to whateverthefuck that movie was and sat until the end to hear Oh My God for the first time. I loved it, and I thoughts the lyrics were fucking great. I was hoping CD would be more of that type of stuff. It was a cool blend of rock and industrial to me while still retaining the spirit of Guns. 

The leaks before it was released sounded good also I thought, I can’t fully remember but I think IRS, Better, TWAT and at least one or two other songs leaked and I think I preferred those mixes to what I heard on the album. I did like album version of TWAT. 

Axl’s a talented musician, and anything released he has written is worth exploring. There’s always going to be something I like. But I liked GNR. And that’s Axl, Izzy, Slash & Duffs ideas In a melting pot and put together with how each contributed to the sound of the band and the sound that shaped those songs. Each players nuances or instincts musically made the songs unique. 

I could hear moments of Guns N Roses in CD but it was far less than would make me listen to that album more than once a year. 

The OP saying he likes it better than the others records makes sense, it sounds so different to all the rest, and he likes that sound. It’s nice to get the neutral point of view. 

I just prefer the sound and songs of the rest. 

26 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I did my work experience in a guitar shop frequented by Peter Green. 

Did he play in the shop? He’s an amazing guitarist. The live Fleetwood Mac stuff from his time in the band is brilliant. Just an amazing amount of emotion. 

9 hours ago, killuridols said:

Y'know... This is a discussion board and people discuss topics here so why don't you let people be and have them whatever discussion and opinions they want to have?

Aren't you here to preach about freedom? Then do as you preach and leave those fucking mamas alone because this is OUR thread and it is our space to talk/vent/complain/laugh/cry about whatever we want. 

We earned it with our freedom of speech and opinion.

Then walk in your own shoes and let us be. It's our life. It's our concerns, not yours. We will keep talking about whatever we want and you won't come tell us what we must say or not say or else you are being a hypocrite with your preaching.

It is unlikely you've understood the concept yourself in first place. Because no one is entirely free and that's not my philosophy.

What I said is that certain aspects of life interfere with the utopia of total freedom. Whether you are married, single, in charge of others, disabled or dealing with a demanding job, life as an adult forces you to make a list of priorities and function according to it. It is not always th case that you can dedicate enormous amounts of time to leisure or traveling around the world. 

I repeat, that was not in question, it was just a conversation between two people exchanging experiences about motherhood and comparing their priorities to others.

Why someone who preaches about freedom gets their panties in a bunch just because others were discussing those topics is frankly odd.

 

Yes. 

3 hours ago, killuridols said:

I think you don't understand the context in which those things were said.

While I do agree with you that people are entitled to do with their money whatever the heck they want, I do not think it is realistic to say that the great thing about this world is that people get to live their lives in the way they want.

Financial and gender reasons, age, physical impediments and other things can limit the freedom of someone and I dont think there are many people out there that can do what those superfans do.

So we have two moms just talking between themselves about how time consuming is to be a mom and how raising kids oftenly puts you in a place where you have to manage the best you can the time and money you can destine to yourself and your children.

From the point of view of someone married with children, the question arised about how these people were able to afford not only the trips and tickets but also the time spent attending so many shows. Even from the point of view of a single person, this question pops up too.

I think it was clear that no one was trying to tell them superfans how to live their lives or how to administrate their money and their freedom. It was just wondering about priorities in life and what are the motivations behind investing a load of money in such activities.

I understand. That’s why I said why speculate? If you don’t know the reasons, leave people be. They don’t need to be discussed or understood from “your” point of view. Live and let live. Y’know. My situation in life would not allow me that be a superfan, but I don’t view their behaviour through the narrow lense of my existence....

People can do what they want. It’s their life. I don’t introduce someone else’s situation to my mind and try to understand it through my experience... it’s their fucking life. So leave them be... Everyone should walk in their own shoes and leave others do the same. 

I guess if I’m explaining what freedom of choice is to someone, it’s unlikely they will understand it anyway. Your philosophy appears to be “You can have freedom but......” don’t be infirm,or poor,or have kids, or be married” 

1 hour ago, killuridols said:

It took 10 seconds. Probably 98% less than what it took you come here to lecture a mom who was just having a conversation with another mom 

In my defence I was quite stoned 😂 

(and fuck it, leave people be who they are)

4 hours ago, killuridols said:

Thanks for taking the time to care by posting.

On 2018-01-18 at 6:42 AM, default_ said:

I honestly believe Axl had/has mental issues and never wanted to treat it properly until the threeunion hapenned.

People with this kind of condition usually arent aware of their behaviors, so yeah, I think theres a possibility he still thinks everything he did was Ok, but agreed to be on meds in order to keep the machine running.

I think this also. There is some sort of mental anguish / depression shit going in there for certain.

I think the meds calmed him down enough to talk shit out before they started the process and agree to things like being on time every night. He’s not talking as much on stage either. 

I was glad to see him onstage at the troubadour, he looked better minus the redneck 70s porn ‘tache, leather jacket and you could see his hair....

Meds, Team Brazil, Slash & Duff back, money rolling in all these things have contributed to his mental health improvements and improvements in Judgement.

I think this version are back for good and they will function on and off for the rest of the bands life. It is now “the business” phase of the band. I expect to be robbed blind with deluxe box sets of the illusions albums, with a porntastic amount of discs in each.... And the obligatory 5 hour bluray Illusions Tour Documentary. 😂

On 2018-01-17 at 1:55 PM, MillionsOfSpiders said:

It's true when you say that, mums do need to get out of the house too, you tend to look at the calendar and realise you haven't been anywhere but the supermarket and school runs for about 6 months 

Can you imagine what the bands think when they look down at the rail and there's the same people as last time, even if they flew half way around the world? 

Y’know what, who fucking knows why they do it and how they can afford to do it. Each to their own. The great thing about this world, is you get to live your own life how you want to. There’s been plenty of bands who have had “super fans” over the years and some now work for the bands as archivists or running websites etc.. 

It’s 2 Asian chicks bouncing at a railing having a good time.

I don’t want anyone to bitch about me and wonder why I have sex for example, I like it, it’s a good time, now piss off... 😂

They like Guns N Roses. Fair enough.....

Freedom is a fucking great thing, and it’s not a personal thing, we only have it by giving it to other people. 

I didn’t see Mike Clink and voted Steve Albini.... But yeah Clink.

I liked the sound on The Spaghetti Incident, so more in that direction than UYI....

7 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

Yes. That's what I thought. But there was a not so old pic of him without a hat and it doesn't look bad. But he could also wear a baseball hat, just like at the Joe Perry show. Just not that damn top hat. He became his own caricature.

I Wonder if the caricature situation is inevitable for certain musicians. Take Keith Richards, every fucking interview I see the guy in, he has a cigarette hanging from his lips, but I NEVER see him inhale smoke, take a drag, blow smoke out.... He just lights them and carries them around. His lines in general are so blurred Keef don’t know who Keith is.

(Kinda fucked how that Slash toy for sale on the Guns website also has him with a smoke stuck between his lips but he has quit in real life......I don’t want cancer but I don’t mind letting people think I smoke because it’s cool maaaaaaaan.......) 

7 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

Yeah. He should only pull it out for Paradise City and maybe SCOM (and November rain, but only if he steps on the piano to play the solo) and otherwise not use it. It definitely has become cartoonlike.

It appears he wears it as it has become necessary! 😂 Get hair plugs man, you have the cash! 

On 1/13/2018 at 1:23 PM, Nicklord said:

Are they? Cause there are literally 0 guitarists out there that don't have Jimmy Page as their top 3 influences or drummers and Bonham. I mean, they influenced totally different things but don't think one is more influential than the other

I play guitar and while i respect Jimmy Page, I'll take Iommi over him any day, Bill Ward i prefer over Bonham also.

(I recognize its sacrilege to think Bonham was shit, but to me he's a bit lumbering and plodding) 

Sabbath all day long. More Original for certain. 

8 minutes ago, killuridols said:

You’re emoji has the munchies... 😂

4 hours ago, Sunset Boulevard said:

Guys...

You just all miss ONE point : nobody needs Izzy to come back. Nobody.

NITL is the 4th biggest tour in music history... without Izzy.

It's all about Slash and Fortus on guitar. They are the ones the entire world wants to see.

End of story.

How long did your survey of the entire world take? 

15 hours ago, ludurigan said:

yeah, except for the fact that izzy actually has done that in the past in much harder conditions

have you ever heard about a band called GNR who toured 1987-1988 and 1991?

anyone that knows a thing or two about GNR will tell you that 1) by all accounts those were much harder times... talking specifically about Izzy, he was (by all accounts) a junkie in a junkies (and drunk-fucks) band on the 1987-88 tour, 2) on most of the dates they were the opening band and thus playing for crowds that weren't there to see them...

i could go on and on... anyone that knows a bit about GNR and a bit about music could tell you, seriously, there is no comparison on how much harder it must have been to tour 1987-1988 and 1991 to this 2016-2017 tour!

(not to mention izzy solo tour in 1992-1993 in clubs playing a full-set of barely-known songs with not a single  GNR song in the repertoire and travelling by bus etc)

seriously, you read something like "there's zero indication that a two year world tour was something Izzy would commit to"...

and you wonder...

"am i talking to kid here who thinks the world started when axl released his solo album?"

"does this guy truly believe in the crap he is writing?"

FFS

Agree 100%..

Kid is the accurate summation.

Anyone who remembers the world in 1987 and now, would know its easier touring now compared to what it was then..

It's not like any of them could msg a dealer or jump on facebook to organize some junk. 

Going from show to show wondering where to get stuff is a junkies nightmare. Hell.

With that off his back, and the other guys sober, it would piss easy. It definitely Beats jonesing in a cold van with a fucking map trying to find some town and a payphone to call a piece of shit dealer ready to fuck over guys he won't see again.....

I'm sure Izzy could cope with the present tour.

NuGNR were called that because it was a different band. Guns N Roses are a separate band to that fuckology with KFC buckets. It's OK to like that stuff, but it's not Guns N Roses you like, it's a different band called NuGNR. With one guy from Guns N Roses in it. It appears Axl has rejoined Guns N Rose's, so why not wonder about Izzy? 

NuGNR is in the past,  It ain't coming back. 

35 minutes ago, kiwiguns said:

Fortus is in GNR and Izzy is currently not.

I can't understand some fans refusal to accept the reality of the situation.

It is what it is. 

You either except that and get on with life until we hear officially  what the future holds in terms of band members and plans.

Judging by the success of the tour and the fact band members seem to be happy playing with and touring together I don't see any changes to the band line up in the future.

 

Well see the thing is, you probably had that attitude while Slash And Duff were out of the band and look how that changed... 

I have no beef with Fortus and he fits in as a second choice, but what planet are you on to prefer and see live a replacement over an original contributing member.

Maybe you should listen to a different band or something because, It doesn’t really matter what you or I think or say, but Slash, Axl, Duff, Izzy & Steven were GNR. 

I can start lying if you wish and pretend that’s not true and fortus contributed heavily to Appetite & UYI, would that be a better reality for you? 

I’ll start by editing the Wikipedia page for you... 

1 minute ago, Gibson_Guy87 said:

Cool beans. Have fun beating your dead horse

Beating a dead horse is crass, we’re flogging a dead horse, it’s more civilized 😂