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1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

Never expect, always hope. 

I'm always hopeful. I also didn't think there'd be a reunion of any sort, but here we are. So, I've been wrong before. I'm happy to have it happen again.

16 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

That an album isn't ready to be dropped now had been inferred from other interviews Slash has done. Nothing new there. 

Any expectation for any kind of complete album is hilarious to me.

More evidence that an album isn't even close to fruition. When you're talking about "probably" releasing a couple new singles, an actual new album doesn't just emerge right after that. Not in GNR land, anyway. If there was an album ready, it would've been ready by now. I'd still love to be wrong, and just have a new album come out in the Fall, but it's not happening.

The problem with this AMA is that it's supposed to be about a group/album, both of which are completely transparent with no hidden details/mystery. Thus, an actual AMA about it is utterly pointless, and people just want to know the actual juicy stuff with GNR, since they're consistently shrouded in mystery/eternal dry spells.

Extremely meh, but glad to hear Froosh in the band again.

2 hours ago, Popcorn crew said:

For me it is like Star Wars after episode 6. (4,5,6). I had my closure. Yes, new episodes is up there but my interest is not as it was. 

Yet still enjoy taking trips to some tour date concerts.

At least they made a new trilogy, even if the new trilogy was terrible. We can't get one original song out of these bozos.

At one time, it was about one of the biggest rock bands ever. Now, we get to talk about two birds who only possess notoriety because of the actual band's shit-tastic approach to music, business, reissues, anything and everything, etc.

What a time to be alive.

The holy grail for me would be one original song that they wrote from scratch after 2016. Just one. They're never going to create an album again, but write one original song and I'll be satisfied.

Won't ever happen because pasting songs together with godawful production is clearly the way to go.

Hopefully they took a vastly different production approach to the remaining songs.

No. Haven't listened to them since they came out. Both are painfully mediocre as "finished" songs, and the leaks sound vastly superior. It's baffling.

41 minutes ago, Alejandro GNR said:

Civil War, Coma and Estranged from beginning to end on the UYI  albums.

These come to mind for me as well. I'll also add Don't Damn Me, since he uses a lot of different vocal techniques during that one song alone.

3 hours ago, Ralphelmo said:

Disagree, it's overproduced, overlayered and even considering some beautiful guitar work on certain tracks I find this album really pretentious, there's not that much of quality on it. Axl should've released it under his own name as a solo project, it would've been much better received. GNR was always about rock & roll, CD contains 0% of rock and roll.  

Then you have Slash's output, which is 100% rock and roll, and about as flaccid as it gets.

Fact is that they both wrote together and that's when they were at their peak. Without each other, they're writing songs that don't even come close. And slapping Slash over Silkworms isn't going to bring that back. At the end of the day, I think fans would be most pleased with any organic effort to release new, original music. It may not be Appetite, but even the most cynical fans could appreciate the effort. I'll give Slash credit for being prolific, but 99% of his material is forgotten as soon as it comes out. Some will say that they love it, and that's fine. Some say they love Absurd. But really, these songs will be forgotten in the years to come, and people will just flock back to AFD or UYI to continue to get what they want out of these two.

I've shat out better turds.

But seriously, why? Lyric videos are shitty to begin with, but who in their right mind said, "Hey, let's drop this lyric video on a random day in December! GNFNRssss!"

I can't really comprehend it. I kinda wish this was an elaborate joke and we were getting the real album, with real songs, next Friday or some shit.

1 hour ago, Gnrcane said:

I know he released a lot more albums than GNR but Billy Joel hasn't released any new music (aside from a classical music album in 2001) in 28 years and just tours.

He basically said he doesn't have anything good left to write.  Maybe Axl doesn't think anything he's coming up with is very good and just doesn't want to record. He definitely enjoys touring and performing but maybe he just doesn't want to write and record anything.

Great thing about Billy Joel is he just said it. He knew his songwriting was finished and stuck to that conclusion. With GNR, it's one big mystery. And then we get two singles that were reworked from ages ago. The band doesn't owe anyone anything, but their approach to music is awkward and unfulfilling.

2 minutes ago, EvanG said:

No, I wasn't, the poster I reacted to was doing that, and like someone else already explained, it's pointless comparing bands. However, if you still feel the need to compare bands (how pointless that might be), at least stick to the facts and don't make shit up. Pearl Jam hasn't released 30 records and doesn't tour non stop, like said poster wrongfully claimed, and that's what I reacted to.

I think they were just exaggerating. But you were comparing them anyway, since you brought up both bands and their touring habits.

55 minutes ago, EvanG said:

What does that have to do with what I said?

You were comparing/contrasting Pearl Jam with GNR, so it's only natural to bring up the band's lack of releases since 1991.

3 hours ago, EvanG said:

Pearl Jam released 11 records since 1991. It took them 7 years to release their latest record. Still not bad, but not exactly 30 records either. As for touring, they don't tour as much as you think apparently, definitely less than GnR has been touring in the last 5 years needless to say.

How many records has GNR released since 1991?

22 hours ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

Let's be honest  ; do you think that Hard Skool and Absurd could be in a GNR album ?? do you think it at the level of this band (exept "my word" !!). I already stop listened to this 2 tracks....sadly

No. I thought HS would come close when hearing the leak, but in its final form, it doesn't touch older GNR material. Absurd isn't even in the conversation. Might as well be a b-side on a release with My World.

11 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Anything or everything? Is there any reason to distrust anything she says? Why on earth would she lie about there being an album? 

As for Susan, it only means the band has worked on new music. She should know, don't you think? And if we accept that the band has worked on new music, and that Susan, Beta, Slash and others aren't flat out lying, don't you think that at least implies a desire to release new music? Or do you think Slash and Duff are adding tracks to songs and reworking them just for fun?

Oh My God was a single to promote both a movie and to showcase a new band. Hard Skool and Asburd, not so much. Of course it is possible that they are just stand-alone releases not connected to a new album at all, but when you take into consideration the fact that they have recorded additional songs, when they have expressed a desire to release these songs (including Axl), and all the comments about there being an album in the works - it makes no sense to use the release of Hard Skool and Absurd as evidence against additional music being released in the future.

And yes, Slash talks more about his release with SMKC than a future album from Guns N' Roses. There are some very obvious, possible reasons for that: SMKC is coming up first so obviously that's the record it is his job to promote right now; and Axl (obviously) doesn't want them to talk about GN'R and their upcoming release(s). It could also very well be he is more excited for "his" own music being released in "his" own band, than "Axl's songs" being released from his cashgrab side project - but don't conflate this as an album not coming.

And yes, it is silly they haven't been able to release an album earlier. But in the world of Guns N' Roses, is that really a functional argument for an album not coming?  Did we learn NOTHING from the period 1994-2008? It isn't so much a lack of will, and being completely dysfunctional (and yes, we are looking at you, @Dexter). Besides, as @Blackstarhas pointed out previously, timing-wise it is unreasonable to expect them to have released an album much sooner. Of course they could have released it last year (it was likely done by then), or they could have released it this autumn. But as it is, it seems they want to release more music in connection with touring activity. 

Fair enough. But let's say Oh My God was released to showcase a new band. Why can't the same be said here? If anything, Absurd and HS should've both been pushed as hard as possible, touting the semi-reunion lineup as being back and all that fluff. The songs passed like farts in the wind. There's no momentum from them now, when there could've easily been something to follow. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'd honestly love to be wrong and somehow be shocked by the presence of a new album. But I really feel that not capitalizing on releasing the two new songs was a colossal oversight. Which, as a result, makes me think there's just nothing else there.

As for the people talking about new music, it's the same story we've heard for years. Anyone outside of the actual band members has next to no idea what's being worked on, or what's going on within the band's dynamic. Hell, even some of the band members don't know. Fortus could come out with an interview tomorrow and say, "Well, things are 99% ready." We all know where that would go. We've been down that road before. The fact is, that no one outside of the main group (Axl) has any clue what's going on. We just have to cling onto these scraps because we have nothing else. The songs presented some optimism, for sure. But now they're just scraps as well. So, unless this is the poorest album rollout ever, I don't see any of this as critical evidence of a release at all.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. I don't see how timing is any issue here. I'm not in the business, though, so I have no clue. I just think it's odd to release two new songs, have next to no follow-up, and then see people thinking that they're sitting on a full album of material, leftovers or not. If they do have a full album, I'd love to hear it. But the evidence just isn't there for me at this point.

39 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

What writing is that? Beta's FB wall where she said Absurd was on the album? Susan's social media saying they are working on an album? Axl's statements regarding him wanting to release more? The release of two new singles? Slash saying they have worked on lots of material? What evidence to people actually have to support this negativity? The fact that the band hasn't released anything in five years? As if five years means anything to GN'R and that it isn't entirely normal for them to spend an inordinate amount of time on absolutely everything? 

Do people believe anything Beta says? Susan's social media is fine and all, but does it mean anything concrete at all? I don't doubt that Axl wants to release more leftover songs, since he's worked on those for years and years. Them coming out piecemeal is really the evidence of this. 'Oh My God' came out how long ago now? 21 years ago? I don't even remember now. An album didn't follow that at all. Unless we're really going to say CD followed that 8 years later. Then we can say a new album may come in 2029? Sometimes smoke doesn't always mean a fire. Sometimes it's just smoke.

All the evidence is in how Slash talks about SMKC. It's an album, it gets a single, it's coming out later. That's how it works. I know GNR is put into this weird continuum where they're somehow allowed to operate in this fantastical way. But the reality is that if an album were close at all, the two singles would've pointed us there. And I'm tired of hearing about the pandemic somehow delaying things, when plenty of artists find ways to release vast swaths of material. The old saying still rings true: "Where there's a will, there's a way." There's no will here. You'd know if it was there. It's just not.

This thread entertains me, as some still think a new album is an actual possibility.

I appreciate the optimism, but the writing is on the wall.

So, essentially, no chance of a new album?

I'm stunned.

4 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

the new adele video hit the 10 million mark within a few hours. a proper video can do wonders.

But Adele is actually relevant.

I would be beyond shocked if we got anything else as far as music is concerned.