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6 minutes ago, Kasanova King said:

As with most band's channels, it won't be just G N'R songs....it will be songs from artists that influenced them as well...AC/DC etc....that, plus some live performances, etc ....the playlist should be plenty varied and lengthy. 

Yeah Howard even said that on the announcement. That the station will play their influences as well. So there'll be loads of Aerosmith, AC/DC, Rolling Stones and probably some Elton John and Queen too.

"Oh, oh, oh I, I, I, I've got a message for you." They won't play Prostitute. I hope. I'll be pissed if they do because I really wanted to hear it in London.

10 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

BS...raspy midvoice intact...ability to sing GNR songs= way off 

Shit song but Axl makes it a lot better. Same with Rock or Bust, his vocals elevate it to another level.

1 hour ago, Zurimor said:

Full On rasp which ruined his voice in the first place, sure. It Is a good thing Axl became a bit wiser. And from all people tell which were at the concerts he doesncC sound Mickey live, so everything is fine. The concerts are for the people which attend the shows not those watching subpar streams.

Full on rasp doesn't ruin his voice at all. It just requires effort to do so, something he's not a fan of applying to GN'R.

I agree with the rest of your statement though.

10 hours ago, tsinindy said:

I'm confused...didn't you just say Axl was "fantastic" of late?

That statement in no way detracts from my opinion of his overall ability whatsoever.

It'd be hilarious if Axl and Tom got banged up in a cell for the night. Their mugshots would make a sick t-shirt. 

1 minute ago, IncitingChaos said:

People watch this nonsense

 

Thank god less people saw this 

 

and at the end of the day this is GNR's fault for releasing...yes I'm actually complaining that they released these videos, Bc they ruin the perception of the band.  

I am hopeful we get an interview with stern though! That would be truly awesome. I really don't think a ton of people will listen to the show so I don't think it's going to matter all that much if Axl is average 

Even average performances these days have enough moments of greatness in them though to be considered good. It's only when bad bits are shown out of the context of a show in which they stand out.

I've really never understood why Stern is predominantly renowned throughout the rock world, he seems ignorant to almost every single band he's interviewed that I've seen. His interview with Brian and Angus was embarrassing to the point of almost being insulting.

27 minutes ago, Derick said:

True! I watched again and he said "Put it down" pointing to the guy in the crowd

Ah, I thought he was being honourable and defending a distressed fan for a minute. Turns out he was just being a dick. Good ol' Axl!

50 minutes ago, beautifulanddamned said:

But who really cares at this point? Now is the time to do it. The contracts have been signed, tickets sold, money made. It's all coming to an end this year. The fat memes and disaster videos have been around for years and it hasn't stopped the tour from being successful. The line-up hasn't stopped the tour from being successful. And this is just how Axl sounds now. It is what it is. Very few people seem to give a shit.  The only thing that matters to the 99% is that Axl and Slash are on that stage together.  And they are almost to the finish line.

But the phrase "This is how Axl sounds now" is pretty ambiguous. Like, what does that even mean? You could watch a video of Sweet Child from Osaka and think he's awful but you watch a video of Jungle from Philly and think he's great. Or you could watch a video of him singing Back in Black and think he's the best he's ever been. That's the point I'm making, no matter what he does, people will always criticise him. But you're right. It doesn't matter, and most people's opinion of him and GN'R in general have drastically become more positive these past 12 months than they have been in decades. So I'd say things are pretty good right about now.

15 minutes ago, Axl_morris said:

For some reason the reading Leeds was a weaker 2010 show.  Everything before and after were solid.

Haha! It's because it was pro shot. Trolling everyone with his tradition of performing bad when it matters most.

1 minute ago, Derick said:

It seems he told the security guards did not pull a fan out of the crowd. After that "Hey" Gio went there and it looks like he said to leave the fan there.

 

Pretty amazing Nightrain,btw!!!

 

go to 3'14"

 

Awesome. He doesn't miss a thing when it comes to security haha.

2 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

He escapes it by having one great performance...read the comments under an AC/DC video, a majority are saying "holy shit he got his voice back, wtf" 

thats an opinion that goes back to the 2002 VMA' s that band stood no chance after that performance. 

But ACDC with Axl videos carry over a million views. You google Axl and those videos are the only one that show up on his page...so the current opinion is he's back, but like you said it's going to take one bad performance and all that goes to hell 

Well I guess the reality is then is that it doesn't matter. However good or bad a random show may be, people are gonna stumble across all kinds of shit good or bad that's already out there. No point worrying about it, however, I would prefer it if he gave a shit more often than he does haha.

9 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

All I ask of Axl is to show up for this Apollo show with rasp...he can Mickey the hell out of the tour. 

Problem is though, with the amount of views that fan footage YouTube videos get these days, all it takes is one bad show and that's it. Not even that, one bad song from an otherwise great show would do it. However many thousands of casuals or even millions happened to watch it, that's their opinion formed. You can't escape it now like the old days.

And the only thing they're being compared to from years ago is a few pro shots. All the bad shows of the past are forgotten. So no matter how great Axl may sound, there'll always be critics. He'll never escape it.

Look how many views "The Axl Rose Disaster" videos get, compared with brilliant performance videos. It's not fair but it's just the way it is these days unfortunately.

8 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

No, this level of criticism was there before the internet, it was just done in smaller circles because another medium didn't exist. And are you saying he was on autopilot from show one at Coachella? because he couldn't intonate the solo then either. 

Would I say something similar to his face if I met him? probably not, but that's because I'd be meeting him for the first time and overall he's still a guitar player I very much respect. If I somehow managed to get a sit down to play guitar with him, I'd probably mention it in a subtle way like "It's interesting that you choose to bend flat on NV these days" which he'd be like, "ah shit, do I do that???"  problem solved  

You might be on to something there. When these guys get complacent, there's no one there to mention it because they're surrounded by yes men ha.

18 minutes ago, gnfnr2k said:

 

stuff like this pisses me off. AC DC gets 110% Axl Rasp where as GNR gets half assed Axl Mickey Mouse

 

 

Only thing that annoys me is when someone hears a half assed version of Rocket Queen and they then think his voice is shot. When it's obviously not if he's capable of this. Grinds my gears.

20 minutes ago, Liquor & Whores said:

my vids

 

 

 

What was Axl saying during Nightrain? Was he telling the crowd to move back again? He kind of gestured with his hand and says something like "Hey!..." and then I can't make out what the rest is. Crowd must've been rowdy as fuck.

Brilliant performance anyway. One of, if not the best Nightrain so far on this leg.

3 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

I agree, there's just some songs that Axl can't really do justice to anymore... unfortunately for GNR and GNR fans, it's all of their biggest songs Sweet child, NV, YCBM. Axl sounded fine on the outro of NV, but all the way up to that was fairly hard to listen to.

Slash During the 2nd NV solo... terrible, Outro solo... same thing. The guy cannot intonate the NV solo properly anymore, every bloody night. He sounds like I did trying to play NV when I was a beginner. No excuse, he has top quality IEMs (a dedicated monitor engineer) and the best gear that money can afford, so I really don't know what the problem is.

Maybe after playing/singing the exact same show 72 times they no longer give a fuck? Slash is on auto pilot and Axl can't be assed warming up. Still a great show but pretty much business as usual by this point in a tour. I swear this level of criticism is one of the worst side effects of the internet age.

5 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

I remember listening to that 2012 show on the radio...it was Ozzy's boneyard or something. But it was very clear, Axl did great on the first 5 or 6 songs then fell apart...it was on par with every show that year outside of hellfest or Philly. 

As far as this show goes...the breakdown this forum will have if Steven and Izzy show up will be epic 

 

monster on pro shot 

Can't wait for the Rock or Bust tour blu-ray with Axl. Hopefully it's Philly as the rumours suggested. Best setlist and Slash was there! Plus Cliff's last show.

Anyway. Back on topic.

1 minute ago, maynard said:

If it was clean then it wasn't good. Not for me, at least. Axl's clean voice sounds bad to me.

Just compare any 2010 performance with 2011-current. It's like a completely different person. And the current person sounds amateur-ish.

This was 2010 and it sounds no different to any performance since. 

14 minutes ago, MrSoftie said:

Nah the whole thing beginning to end is clear as day. Axl's pretty high in the mix actually, can't hear Tommy for shit, DJ should have been muted.

Haha. Maybe whoever bounced it and uploaded it to YouTube lowered the quality in order to do so then. Because that recording sounds muffled. Almost as if there's something covering the mics or it was recorded underwater or some shit.

As long as we get to hear Dizzy's bongos clearly then everything will be fine. That's the important thing.

Just now, MrSoftie said:

I actually have the full thing from years ago, I don't know why that sounds so low-quality but the stream was actually like IEM/soundboard quality.

Well, Chinese was the opener back then and the band (Axl) were still notoriously tardy. So maybe they had to level the mics live and it improved after the first song or two.

1 minute ago, Tom-Ass said:

Two different singers. Cornell's voice held up a lot better than Axl's.... Axl will sound great on some songs but his flaws will be exposed on others. And people won't be able to blame it on "shitty streams"..

Either way, this us good stuff.. I want in

Axl's weird. He excels on what most singers can only dream of achieving but struggles on regular, mundane melodies. It's odd.

27 minutes ago, maynard said:

it sure ain't Mickey either.

it doesn't have to be all screaming to be raspy. and that's exactly what Axl can't do anymore. that raspy mid-range singing voice that was, honestly, fucking awesome.

NR nowadays is hilariously bad with the whiny Mickey helium voice.

Coachella pro shot November Rain was good and that was sang clean.

5 minutes ago, Silent Jay said:

One of the vegas concert in 2012 was broadcast for SiriusXM. Here's how it sounded:

 

That quality is terrible, almost like an audience recording.