allwaystired

I have no idea why so little is being done to generate any excitement for this tour. Starts in a week and no-one seems to care, from management to promoters down to band members, who just a week or so ago are busy promoting their solo stuff!

I can imagine money will be largely made via GNR songs being used to sell anything and everything- any crap advert you can imagine may feature their music. Other than that, yeah, there will be loads of terrible merch, but there's piles and piles of that crap already. No idea who buys any of that stuff though- I wouldn't be seen dead in most of those hoodies and t-shirts they make now. In terms of credibility though- is there actually much more damage that can be done to GNR? After fly GNAIR, miniature baseball bats, toy cars and laundry bags I don't think there is.

Nostalgia I think. Surely that's the draw now? Even if people say "to go and have a good time"- the reasons for that have to be nostalgia, as they're just playing old songs ot as well as they used to. Without moving themselves on, what else is there? Foo Fighters aren't a nostalgia act, GNR are. That's about what it boils down to really.

If you genuinely think Axl Rose and Carrie Underwood are going to rewrite and record One In A Million I worry for you! That's about as likely as Slash taking his trousers down on stage at Glastonbury and having 'I quit' written on his arse.

Not much love for Foo Fighters here! I'm surprised actually. Decent enough band, some great tunes in their catalogue. I know around here we prefer our bands idle and coasting on the past, but Foo Fighters aren't so bad, surely?!

Sounds like a few factors all kicking in at once then. I didn't know that Geffen had released a press release saying they weren't funding it anymore. What a weird scenario!

I thought it was a matter of fact that the label pulled the plug due to spiralling costs? Didn't Axl even say this at one point? I could be wrong here, but was sure I remember that was the case.

Wasn't it more that the label just got pissed off and forced their hand?

I think we're past the lap of honour stage now. Without a push to the 'next phase' of the band, we're looking at them just slowly sliding away I think.

No, no, don't worry- no need to apologise. I get totally where you're coming from. That's a good point about the price, and to be honest, when you keep that in mind and select what you watch a bit carefully you could have a good couple of days....it just doesn't seem to have much of an identity, which I think always leads to crappy/uninterested crowds in my opinion.

Puppet Show and Guns and Roses? They'd get the big dressing room.

Comparing Axl Rose, one of the greatest, wildest rock and roll frontmen of all time to......the coasting boss of a business who wants things dull, stable and secure is most definitely not a compliment! But I think that is probably the problem now. GNR is a business, just waiting for the boss to retire. And that's a tragedy given their talent.

Oh, absolutely not. You got any?

Haha, my musical horizons are pretty well expanded, and rock is certainly not just my only interest (probably the genre I listen to least actually these days).....but it doesn't stop festivals needing to have some time and thought go into their lineup to be enjoyable rather than just throwing together anyone that is available. I've been to so many festivals, but in recent years the music they have on is an afterthought. People go to take photos, chat with their backs to their stages and talk about 'festival vibes'. From this, frankly dreadful, lineup this seems like a classic of that genre. I just stick to gigs now, where there's a change the crowd might actually be interested in who is playing! Been burned too many times from watching great bands play to uninterested crowds, sadly.

It's a bizarre lineup- it just looks like a load of acts have been thrown together with no thought. I suppose that's what festivals are now though mainly, just a mess of acts designed to act as background for drinking and Instagram photos. This one just seems particularly all over the place. All the Lil Baby (had to Google him just to check he is, indeed, another auto-tuned mumble-rapper) fans will doubtless be thrilled at Uncle Axl and his old pals coming on right after! Absolutely bizarre.

VERY overpriced if my previous experiences there are anything to buy! Eat before and after you go in/out would be my advice.

I was one of those that used to really think that. I actually think that's genuinely a sad thing- that illusion being shattered. As a fan it's a tough one to come to terms with.

I wonder if releasing those two songs in that manner sold them many tickets? It's difficult to see that they would with no promotional campaign behind them. In gig promoting the big moment is the announcement and the on sale day. That's when most tickets get sold. In a lot of cases that's when ALL tickets get sold. You'll pick up some more over time, but the big push is then. You need to give potential buyers the buzz and the feel of "I might miss out if I don't get them now" to capitalise on expensive tickets. Definitely try not to give them time to either consider it or get buyers remorse before they actually buy the tickets. It's pretty basic business stuff really.....and it baffles me why everyone has done so little with this latest leg. There's no selling point at all to push at people other than the vague "this might be your last chance....but probably not" angle, which they've pretty much removed by touring constantly since 2016.

Well,the tour starts in a couple of weeks so if they're hoping to drive sales I'd say that ship has already sailed. The time to do it would have been when the tour got announced as part of a big campaign.

Joking aside, this band really isn't worth getting heat stroke/dehydration for. Is there not some legal requirement for the venue to provide drinking water free of charge? It was always the case that water would be dished out by security at the front I thought? Why not just relax a bit? Buy GC tickets, stand towards the back of it, go and get some water whenever you need it. Absolutely no point making yourself ill.

Haha, I thought I was very out of touch!

A pink dolphin onesie costume?! Audiences at rock gigs sure have changed. If you'd worn that at a GNR gig in the past I imagine you'd have been beaten senseless!

What the fuck is that?! Absolutely embarrassing.

I don't either. People like predictability and repetition I suppose. They get something out of it that I personally don't understand- probably as simple as "they enjoy it", but it's certainly not for me. Variety and stuff I haven't seen before is pretty vital to me when going to gigs. I don't think those are that important to a lot of people though.

"Come on folks, dig deep, these stadiums won't fill themselves". But yeah, you might be right to be honest. A crazy, off the wall suggestion though could be to release and promote something new from the band that are touring......but we all know that isn't going to happen! There is a very big silence and lack of promotion around this tour though. Nothing seems to be being done by anyone to drum up excitement and interest.