TMZ: Slash gear banned from GNR concert

[Spirit]

Alright, so I think the answer is probably somewhere in the middle here. What you have is a situation where there's many players involved. While I don't doubt that Axl would rather not have people showing up wearing Slash garb or yelling his name during the concert, I'm pretty positive these directives aren't coming from him or anyone in the band. What's more than likely is that someone involved in the production or financing of this tour is sending out instructions about what security should keep an eye out for. I recall in Axl's discussions with fans a year ago that he mentioned he really doesn't have a problem with people taking pictures at concerts, so long as those pictures don't end up for sale and whatnot. So I'm pretty sure Axl isn't too worried when people take their cell-phones out to snap a few shots. Yet somehow some security people at these shows feel the need to hassle people with cell phones out, no matter what they're using them for (in my case, text messaging).

I think bottom line is that whoever is underwriting this tour is worried about Axl and the band flying off at the handle and has sent out vague and overly cautious security instructions. Moreover, I feel like these instructions are being taken too serious by some members of the security staff at respective venues. Some people are not capable of using common sense, so you get situations where I'm getting yelled at for send a text message while at the concert. Then there are other security guards, who see me rocking out for four or five songs and don't give me shit for taking the odd picture here and there 'cause they know I'm a fan and I'm not looking to tape the whole show. When I was in the pit for the London show, security would only yell at people with cameras when they were using them for a long time.

In the end, this is most likely a case of broken telephone.

Cheers,

Andrew

EXACTLY!

I've never doubted those who said this incident really happened. I just don't believe for a second that these orders came from Axl.

[rapemymind]

i was told by a security guard TONIGHT in front of 3 friends that any pissing axl off , or yelling for slash would get u kicked out

so wtf

[downzy]

i was told by a security guard TONIGHT in front of 3 friends that any pissing axl off , or yelling for slash would get u kicked out

so wtf

Well, that's a little different. You'd only be yelling out Slash to antagonize Axl. Like I said, it's all about common sense. It's one thing to show up with a Slash shirt on, it's another thing to yell the guy's name at Axl while Axl is trying to perform. I refer to the post in the previous page where the guy speaks about his friend who works security at the ACC. If you're trying to cause shit, then you get escorted out.

Cheers,

Andrew

[Granny]

I didn't want to comment on this topic any longer. But seeing somebody writing down exactly what is my own assumption here - I need to agree, Andrew. Over-eager, power-drunk or simply mindless security individuals hassling fans on the basis of the general instruction to prevent Axl from getting mad.

It all comes down to what you want to make of the information bits you get.

You want Axl to act like a freaked-out psychopath for you to feel superior? You will find clues everywhere.

You want him to act like a really nice guy with a short fuse? You will find clues everywhere.

If you want to know what he really is like - stick to what people say about him who actually met and worked with him. And never take things that get public at face value because there is always tons of connected background information that we will likely never learn about.

So, peace on earth.

[The Glow Inc.]

i was told by a security guard TONIGHT in front of 3 friends that any pissing axl off , or yelling for slash would get u kicked out

so wtf

Why would you yell for Slash at a NuGnR concert if it's not to piss Axl off or to mock the guitarists ?

Are you really surprised ?

[karlossacanell]

i was told by a security guard TONIGHT in front of 3 friends that any pissing axl off , or yelling for slash would get u kicked out

so wtf

Why would you yell for Slash at a NuGnR concert if it's not to piss Axl off or to mock the guitarists ?

Are you really surprised ?

Yes, i´m agree ...

It´s not the same to swear a Slash or VR shirt than to be yelling Slash just to piss Axl off ... big difference for me

[rapemymind]

sorry let me rephrase

i was kinda high when i wrote that

i was told that axl had said that anyone who yells shit will about slash will get kicked out

i was suprised axl supposdly said that , kinda thought he wouldent give a shit

[sandynroses]

Alright, so I think the answer is probably somewhere in the middle here. What you have is a situation where there's many players involved. While I don't doubt that Axl would rather not have people showing up wearing Slash garb or yelling his name during the concert, I'm pretty positive these directives aren't coming from him or anyone in the band. What's more than likely is that someone involved in the production or financing of this tour is sending out instructions about what security should keep an eye out for. I recall in Axl's discussions with fans a year ago that he mentioned he really doesn't have a problem with people taking pictures at concerts, so long as those pictures don't end up for sale and whatnot. So I'm pretty sure Axl isn't too worried when people take their cell-phones out to snap a few shots. Yet somehow some security people at these shows feel the need to hassle people with cell phones out, no matter what they're using them for (in my case, text messaging).

I think bottom line is that whoever is underwriting this tour is worried about Axl and the band flying off at the handle and has sent out vague and overly cautious security instructions. Moreover, I feel like these instructions are being taken too serious by some members of the security staff at respective venues. Some people are not capable of using common sense, so you get situations where I'm getting yelled at for send a text message while at the concert. Then there are other security guards, who see me rocking out for four or five songs and don't give me shit for taking the odd picture here and there 'cause they know I'm a fan and I'm not looking to tape the whole show. When I was in the pit for the London show, security would only yell at people with cameras when they were using them for a long time.

In the end, this is most likely a case of broken telephone.

Cheers,

Andrew

Totally agree

[madison]

I wanted to respond to the thread that we deleted.

I'm almost positive that this was written by a former banned member. The writing style and ridiculous story matches her style word for word.This isn't the first thread she's created over the years, where she makes up stories to further her personal vendetta for being banned. And she's been banned from every single GNR forum on the Net multiple times.

However, I'm happy to respond to her bogus story: I contacted the security manager who handled security at the Winnipeg show because fans had started a thread making a claim about Slash gear being banned. I didn't believe the claims initially, which is why I closed the thread. But when several members contacted me in pms insisting they had witnessed it firsthand, I decided to check into it myself.

So I made calls and spoke to the security manager who headed up security that night. I simply asked if there was a special security policy that evening, and the manager went into great detail about the Slash hats and gear and how several people had been turned away, and he specifically said the instructions had come from "Axl." I didn't ask him - he volunteered it. Personally, I figured he probably meant somebody from Axl's camp. But that's all there is to the story.

As for TMZ, they clearly spoke to the same person who headed up security that I did - not some kid who answers phones at the venue. TMZ is a nationally syndicated show and would not just run a story based on something they read on an internet forum. That's just silly.

As for my support for the band - anyone who has been here for any length of time knows that I've been here building this forum's membership from day one. I've spent eight years keeping GNR's name alive and keeping discussions going even when there was no GNR news. So, it's quite ludicrous for anyone to suggest I don't support the band and Axl. Ridiculous.

[axl_on_drums]

Who the hell cares

[droezle]

So I made calls and spoke to the security manager who headed up security that night. I simply asked if there was a special security policy that evening, and the manager went into great detail about the Slash hats and gear and how several people had been turned away, and he specifically said the instructions had come from "Axl." I didn't ask him - he volunteered it. Personally, I figured he probably meant somebody from Axl's camp. But that's all there is to the story.

If this is true than how does it come that we didn't heard any news about this during the Asian leg of the tour or during the first shows they played in Canada?

[sweetness]

I wanted to respond to the thread that we deleted.

I'm almost positive that this was written by a former banned member. The writing style and ridiculous story matches her style word for word.This isn't the first thread she's created over the years, where she makes up stories to further her personal vendetta for being banned.

However, I'm happy to respond to her bogus story: I contacted the security manager who handled security at the Winnipeg show because fans had started a thread making a claim about Slash gear being banned. I didn't believe the claims initially, which is why I closed the thread. But when several members contacted me in pms insisting they had witnessed it firsthand, I decided to check into it myself.

So I made calls and spoke to the security manager who headed up security that night. I simply asked if there was a special security policy that evening, and the manager went into great detail about the Slash hats and gear and how several people had been turned away, and he specifically said the instructions had come from "Axl." I didn't ask him - he volunteered it. Personally, I figured he probably meant somebody from Axl's camp. But that's all there is to the story.

As for TMZ, they clearly spoke to the same person who headed up security that I did - not some kid who answers phones at the venue. TMZ is a nationally syndicated show and would not just run a story based on something they read on an internet forum. That's just silly.

As for my support for the band - anyone who has been here for any length of time knows that I've been here building this forum's membership from day one. I"ve spent nine years keeping GNR's name alive and keeping discussions going even when there was no GNR news. So, it's quite ludicrous for anyone to suggest I don't support the band and Axl. Ridiculous.

I can't believe some people would take this whole thing so close to heart as to go out of their way to pose as a security guard in attempt to refute the claims of numerous concert goers, people who payed good money to stand in line for hours and see this band. What a joke, thats extremely pathetic

[Tater Totts]

I don't get it either. I mean I am not saying Maddy is wrong about this but I find it really strange that it happened at one venue with the instructions from Axl but, we havent heard anything similar from the other shows.

[gunsguy]

This story is 100% untrue, confirmed... I know it sounds cool to think he may have done that to certain members, but its someone's ideas blown outta proportion, can this thread be locked or dead now? Another classic media hyper twisting and fabricating of something they want you to believe...

[madison]

If this is true than how does it come that we didn't heard any news about this during the Asian leg of the tour or during the first shows they played in Canada?

I don't want to get into this debate again.

I only checked into the policy at the Winnipeg show. I have no idea if the policy continued after that or not.

I can't believe some people would take this whole thing so close to heart as to go out of their way to pose as a security guard in attempt to refute the claims of numerous concert goers, people who payed good money to stand in line for hours and see this band. What a joke, thats extremely pathetic

If it's the same banned member that I'm assuming it is, she's done a lot nuttier things than that over the years - including stalking forum members she doesn't like in the real world. She's nuttier than a fruitcake and has been banned from every single GNR forum on the Net. Guess she's off her meds again.

[hollywood_democracy]

I don't understand what the big deal about this claim/rumor (at the time) was that Madison had to call the security and find out... some people are really bored... let alone post it, confirming it and then letting Guns N' Roses get bad press... Kind of sad and pathetic.

[Shackler118]

How about that album Chinese Democracy from that band Guns N' Roses? Good stuff.

[moreblack]

How about that album Chinese Democracy from that band Guns N' Roses? Good stuff.

there's an album?

[Orsys]

If it is such a huge deal, why doesn't GNR just come out and say you can wear a Slash shirt no problem, then the case would closed.

I suspect it's not a huge deal to GnR. Probably not any size deal to them. I think what they are doing is fine. Like I said in the other thread, I saw them selling Slash t-shirts at ACC last night and no one was doing anything about that. That's how they say they don't care.

[karlossacanell]

I wanted to respond to the thread that we deleted.

I'm almost positive that this was written by a former banned member. The writing style and ridiculous story matches her style word for word.This isn't the first thread she's created over the years, where she makes up stories to further her personal vendetta for being banned.

However, I'm happy to respond to her bogus story: I contacted the security manager who handled security at the Winnipeg show because fans had started a thread making a claim about Slash gear being banned. I didn't believe the claims initially, which is why I closed the thread. But when several members contacted me in pms insisting they had witnessed it firsthand, I decided to check into it myself.

So I made calls and spoke to the security manager who headed up security that night. I simply asked if there was a special security policy that evening, and the manager went into great detail about the Slash hats and gear and how several people had been turned away, and he specifically said the instructions had come from "Axl." I didn't ask him - he volunteered it. Personally, I figured he probably meant somebody from Axl's camp. But that's all there is to the story.

As for TMZ, they clearly spoke to the same person who headed up security that I did - not some kid who answers phones at the venue. TMZ is a nationally syndicated show and would not just run a story based on something they read on an internet forum. That's just silly.

As for my support for the band - anyone who has been here for any length of time knows that I've been here building this forum's membership from day one. I've spent eight years keeping GNR's name alive and keeping discussions going even when there was no GNR news. So, it's quite ludicrous for anyone to suggest I don't support the band and Axl. Ridiculous.

Everything is clear now ...

[Ali]

This story is 100% untrue, confirmed... I know it sounds cool to think he may have done that to certain members, but its someone's ideas blown outta proportion, can this thread be locked or dead now? Another classic media hyper twisting and fabricating of something they want you to believe...

I didn't think the level of denial that goes on at HTGTH would take place here as well, but clearly it is. Madison confirmed it. TMfuckingZ confirmed it. What more do you want? Nobody is saying it happened at all shows. It did, however did happen at the show that is in question and this is what we are talking about. Now could the director of Security possibly have been misinformed? Of course, but all we have to go on is his word and the statements of several forum members.But in your eyes, this is just some massive campaign to smear Axl/GNR,which Madison would not do anyway.

Does it make sense that "Slash" gear was banned at one show and not others? Not really but plenty of things don't make much sense in GnR-land.

Your answer to your own question isn't really much of an answer at all. So, I'll say it does make sense if you consider that the source was not GN'R. That's the answer.

And, no, TMZ did not confirm it. They referred to the Regina show where there was no report of this ban happening. Unless, that is, they meant Wednesday the 13th in Winnipeg, not Wednesday the 20th in Regina, which is what it sounds like from the wording.

Ali

Edited January 29, 2010 by Ali

[Scumcat Esq.]

There's only ONE way to settle this. Someone in here needs to buy a ticket, dress up in complete Slash gear from head to toe, wig and all, and try an enter while filming it with their camera.

Nice option. But here's another one.... What if Slash himself turns up....?

Now that would be funny.

[dimitrisaxl]

This story is 100% untrue, confirmed... I know it sounds cool to think he may have done that to certain members, but its someone's ideas blown outta proportion, can this thread be locked or dead now? Another classic media hyper twisting and fabricating of something they want you to believe...

I didn't think the level of denial that goes on at HTGTH would take place here as well, but clearly it is. Madison confirmed it. TMfuckingZ confirmed it. What more do you want? Nobody is saying it happened at all shows. It did, however did happen at the show that is in question and this is what we are talking about. Now could the director of Security possibly have been misinformed? Of course, but all we have to go on is his word and the statements of several forum members.But in your eyes, this is just some massive campaign to smear Axl/GNR,which Madison would not do anyway.

Does it make sense that "Slash" gear was banned at one show and not others? Not really but plenty of things don't make much sense in GnR-land.

How could the director of Security possibly have been misinformed? He said to madison that the order came from Axl. Unless he don't know how Axl looks like...

[Scumcat Esq.]

How about that album Chinese Democracy from that band Guns N' Roses? Good stuff.

there's an album?

You should've asked, 'there's a band?'

[Ali]

This story is 100% untrue, confirmed... I know it sounds cool to think he may have done that to certain members, but its someone's ideas blown outta proportion, can this thread be locked or dead now? Another classic media hyper twisting and fabricating of something they want you to believe...

I didn't think the level of denial that goes on at HTGTH would take place here as well, but clearly it is. Madison confirmed it. TMfuckingZ confirmed it. What more do you want? Nobody is saying it happened at all shows. It did, however did happen at the show that is in question and this is what we are talking about. Now could the director of Security possibly have been misinformed? Of course, but all we have to go on is his word and the statements of several forum members.But in your eyes, this is just some massive campaign to smear Axl/GNR,which Madison would not do anyway.

Does it make sense that "Slash" gear was banned at one show and not others? Not really but plenty of things don't make much sense in GnR-land.

How could the director of Security possibly have been misinformed? He said to madison that the order came from Axl. Unless he don't know how Axl looks like...

Do you honestly think that Axl personally told the head of security in person that this is what he wanted? C'mon. Even if this is what Axl wanted, there is no way he would inform the venue's security head about this face to face. That's what management is for. And the fact that another party, like management, was involved in this alleged chain of communication makes it more likely that there may have been a misunderstanding as information was passed along. Hence the possibility of being misinformed.

Ali