axlr23 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Axl Rose fell down in Mexico City, and it's all your faultby Kyle AndersonAs is wont to happen whenever he steps out the door, Axl Rose’s current tour with Guns N’ Roses hasn’t been the smoothest journey.There have been multiple complaints of Rose’s vocal weakness, an over-reliance on tracks from the sub-par Chinese Democracy, pacing issues (any show that pauses so that a dude named Bumblefoot can noodle on the theme from The Pink Panther is bound to seem sluggish), and side effects that may or may not include blindness. And on Wednesday night in Mexico City, Rose fell down and went boom in the middle of “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door.”The good news is that Axl didn’t channel his 1992 self and storm off the stage in a huff and shut down the entire concert. But the bad news is that this happened at all. Not because it’s a bummer whenever an artist takes a tumble (even Beyoncé loses her footing sometimes), but because Axl is still doing this, and that people show up.People always talk about how sad these shows look, either because the star in question is not as glorious as they once were, or are just going through the motions for the sake of a payday. But in reality, we only have ourselves to blame. Those of us (and I include myself in this group for reasons we’ll get to in a minute) who buy tickets to these shows and then feel disappointed when things go awry? We only have ourselves and our hideous attachment to nostalgia to blame.A few weeks ago, my wife and I went to go check out the Lemonheads. Actually, it was Evan Dando and a pair of dudes (not unlike the Guns N’ Roses situation). We had been looking forward to the show for weeks, as the ticket promised that the band would play through their classic 1992 album It’s a Shame About Ray in its entirety. That album is one of the finest collections of druggy, jangly mope-rock tunes ever committed to tape, and it holds a particularly strong meaning for my wife and I. (“Rudderless” is especially great.)Though we were both feeling a little under the weather, we made our way out to the venue for the show. After waiting more than an hour after the band was supposed to hit the stage, Dando finally came out and announced that he was too sick to perform, because his voice was shot. He had actually canceled a show in Atlanta a few nights before, so he had clearly been worn down.The crowd resisted his insistence that he couldn’t perform, so to prove it he played a song by himself. It was weak, but people cheered, so he did a few more solo tunes. Then he attempted to leave, but a number of people on stage (including Butthole Surfers frontman Gibby Haynes) encouraged him to stay and keep playing.That cycle kept happening. Dando would play a few songs — the rest of the band eventually joined him — then would attempt to leave before being drawn back. All of the performances seemed perfunctory and rushed. Most people didn’t stick around, and the ones who did were pretty angry.But really, we have nobody to blame but ourselves. Even if he was healthy, Dando wouldn’t be the same guy he was in 1992, just as the Axl of 2011 has almost nothing to do with the one from 1987. Why would we, as the ticket-buying public, expect any of these guys to be able to recapture lightning in a bottle? Logically speaking, if they were still as good as they were at their peak, wouldn’t they still be that good? And yet neither Dando nor Rose have made any significant contribution to music in the 21st century.I’m hardly anti-nostalgia. Heck, I’ve spent the better part of the fall thinking about and revisiting albums that came out 20 years ago. But the whole point of nostalgia is that it lets you hang onto a fleeting feeling that exists in your memory.Don’t let simulations of the things you love ruin them, even if they are simulated by the original creators. Let the things you love in the past exist in the past, and spend your concert ticket money on up-and-coming acts who will help you create new thrills and memories. Unless it’s Prince. Then go nuts.Have you had an unfortunate experience with a nostalgia act? Or have any of them delivered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Fuck entertainment weekly. That was perhaps the dumbest article I've read about the incident. Or rather, the most delusional, misinformed, shittily researched article. Of course, it is Entertainment Weekly. They stopped being relevant back in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosonen Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Writing a positive thing about Axl is obviously wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Too bad for him, I got one of the best GN'R shows in decades. Not only judging by what I saw when I was there, Youtube videos pretty much confirm it as well.Anyway, newspapers etc. are trying to get an award for ''best anti-Axl article''. This guy won't even be nominated. If you take a shot, make sure it's a good one dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changes Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I don't even get the logic in the link between the fall and the point of the article. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I liked the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realpoti Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Actually, this is a pretty good article. You people are too sensitive when it comes to Guns N' Roses, hell, it's just a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblecool Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I liked the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) Here is the response I posted to this article on ew.com:"The writer of this article is a totally ignorant moron. I saw them live in Paris last year and they were great! I hate how our culture has degenerated so thoroughly that the loser that wrote this article can seem so justified in his blatantly innacurate characterizations of Rose and the current band. I cannot wait to see them in NJ in a few weeks. Anyone else that does will see one of the best shows of their lives." Edited October 22, 2011 by Tyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changes Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I'm a bit nervous about how they are going to tear him to pieces when he reaches the US, considering how many articles that has been generated from a few shit incidents in SA. It's getting out of hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 This guy is an idiot, as is anybody who agrees with him.It says people are complaining because they play too many CD songs? I've never heard that. Pretty much the exact opposite is what most people say on this forum.And of course Sunny liked it, because is was a negative article. You are such a bad-boy rebel by going on a GnR fan forum specifically to bash GnR. Can somebody ban this clown from this section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I liked the article.Of course you did, just like you liked that whiny emo frat rock band in the other thread. :eyeroll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changes Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 This guy is an idiot, as is anybody who agrees with him.It says people are complaining because they play too many CD songs? I've never heard that. Pretty much the exact opposite is what most people say on this forum.And of course Sunny liked it, because is was a negative article. You are such a bad-boy rebel by going on a GnR fan forum specifically to bash GnR. Can somebody ban this clown from this section?Of course people on this forum are going to be the exception. Reviews VERY often comment on that. Still, I don't get the logic of that point either. He talks about how nostalgia acts are sad, but still makes a point of Axl playing too many new songs... Doesn't that NOT make it a nostalgia act? Plus, nowadays they play like 3 or 4 CD songs so I don't see how anyone could think that is wrong seeing as it is the latest album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realpoti Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 This guy is an idiot, as is anybody who agrees with him.It says people are complaining because they play too many CD songs? I've never heard that. Pretty much the exact opposite is what most people say on this forum.And of course Sunny liked it, because is was a negative article. You are such a bad-boy rebel by going on a GnR fan forum specifically to bash GnR. Can somebody ban this clown from this section?I'm sorry if outside your living world people do have their own opinions. I'm with Sunny on this and i'm pretty sure you're the only idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 haha...yeah.the jist of the article is "stop living in the past" or "its not 1987 anymore"; kinda funny that the axl nutters are bashing me for liking the article when they same that exact same shit over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 haha...yeah.the jist of the article is "stop living in the past" or "its not 1987 anymore"; kinda funny that the axl nutters are bashing me for liking the article when they same that exact same shit over and over. Why do you even come here? Do you not get any attention in the real world?By the way, who's living in the past again? Oh that would be you, since all you do is whine about the current version of GnR. Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Used To Love Me Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Once again, too many contradictions..."Stop living in the past""Stop playing new music""Too much AFD on this tour""GNR is a nostalgia act""They need to release a new album"None of those things go together - can't we all just accept that GNR is NONE of those things? That they simply are GNR?It's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I find the principle of "letting things that happened in the past live in the past" utterly stupid. The point of being human is using the past to make your future, which means you can try here and then to resurrect the past and better it. Doesn't work that often but it'd be a shame if we forgot what made us or admire it in a glasswindow of our memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 GnR is Deep Purple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w6a6x6l6 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 haha...yeah.the jist of the article is "stop living in the past" or "its not 1987 anymore"; kinda funny that the axl nutters are bashing me for liking the article when they same that exact same shit over and over. I really hope I don't run into you at the Chicago show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdave Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I have a cousin named Kyle Anderson who I've only met once in my life... I wonder if it's him??!?!!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeaxl Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Fuck Kyle Anderson and the dirt rag he writes for. What a flaming pile of steaming shit. Who give a fuck what this guy thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(t) Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I have a cousin named Kyle Anderson who I've only met once in my life... I wonder if it's him??!?!!?!?!It is him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Bullshit.I've seen Axl live three times (2002/2006/2010) and the guy killed it each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Here is the response I posted to this article on ew.com:"The writer of this article is a totally ignorant moron. \What are they ignorant of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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