Flayer Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's not how you're thinkingor as you've imaginedwe live in the shade ofbeliefs that oppress usbelieve your enslavery and drain out your soulIt's that first verse that's the verse of a million Mondegreens. That's how I've always heard it, I like the sound of "enslavery," and it fits with other made-up Axl words like "disinfatuation" and "inconquerable." But I like how everything hears their own thing. Think Axl should just sing it different each time (whenever he gets around to actually singing it) to fuck with us even more.That's how I hear it.I think we need an official lyrics thread for Patience. Actually, not true. I don't hear the oppress us part. I hear "Believe in your own fashions" there.I can understand how you'd hear every part of that except "own," that just doesn't seem to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 That's true. It does sound out-of-place."Believe in your fashions?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiedHands Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 That's true. It does sound out-of-place."Believe in your fashions?"Fashions, ideas. the basis for the term "old fashioned", believing in old ideas. It makes sense, I'm just not sure that's what he's saying. Could be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 That's true. It does sound out-of-place."Believe in your fashions?"Fashions, ideas. the basis for the term "old fashioned", believing in old ideas. It makes sense, I'm just not sure that's what he's saying. Could be...I think it makes sense, too.There should seriously be a team of people on this site trying to put the absolute correct lyrics of every GN'R song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiedHands Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 That's true. It does sound out-of-place."Believe in your fashions?"Fashions, ideas. the basis for the term "old fashioned", believing in old ideas. It makes sense, I'm just not sure that's what he's saying. Could be...I think it makes sense, too.There should seriously be a team of people on this site trying to put the absolute correct lyrics of every GN'R song.Hahaha, I can't really think of any other songs that have any questionable lyrics, except maybe 'Silkworms'. Most people always have that one off by a country mile, though I don't claim to know the 100% correct lyrics, I think I used to get it pretty damn close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 In the past few weeks, people have mistaken two Patience lines, so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) It's not how you're thinkingor as you've imaginedbeen living in the shade ofbeliefs that were fashionedto keep you in slavery and drain out your soulWhat can I do when there's so many liarsthat crawl through your veinslike millions of spidersthat seek out their victimsAnd who is the wiser?Watch outGotchaOh my godI can't deny thisI've been trying just to kill and fight thisto bury it deeper where nobody can find itlike nobody wanted to knowSo give it awaylike they're not gonna fuck youhow much can you pay themto come back and haunt you?To broadcast your feelingsand cause you to suffer.You're starting to bleedif they don't give coverBefore its too lateWhat will you offerIn way of a healingThough I'm so confused, confused, misusedOh my godI can't deny thisI've been trying just to kill and fight thisto bury it deeper where nobody can find itcause nobody wanted to knowOoh, if it opens your eyeswell it's better than a strong compromiseI was willing to be lost in the shuffleIf only you had let me knowOoh, if it opens your eyeswell then it's better than the last compromiseI was willing to be lost in the shadowsIf only you had let me knowAnd they wont give inCause they know what they're afterA kick in the faceLike its all that would matterand OooohhhhhOh my godI can't deny thisI've been taught just to murder and fight thisto bury it deeper where nobody can find itCause nobody wouldn't knowOoh, if it opens your eyeswell it's better than our last compromiseI was willing to be lost in the shuffleIf only you had let me knowOoh, well then it's on with the showLike the tides out on the oceanThe waves already set in motionThe only one in the game who's lost is you Edited November 7, 2011 by Gagarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 This is 100% correct except for the lyrics I have as ????.It's not how you're thinkingthat you've been right??? ??? ??? the shade of???? ???? ???? ???to keep you in slavery and drain out your soulWhat can I do when there's so many liarsthat crawl through your veinslike millions of spidersthat seek out their victimsAnd who is the wiser?Watch outGotchaOh my godI can't deny thisI've been trying just to kill and fight thisto bury it deeper where nobody can find itlike nobody wanted to knowSo give it awaylike they're not gonna fuck youhow much can you ??? ????to come back and haunt you?To broadcast your feelingsand cause you to suffer.You're starting to bleedthey don't discoverBefore its too lateWhat will you offerIn way of a healingI'm so confused, abused, misusedOh my godI can't deny thisI've been taught just to kill and fight thisto bury it deeper where nobody can find itCause nobody wanted to knowOoh, if it opens your eyeswell this is better than a strong compromiseI was willing to be lost in the shuffleIf only you had let me knowOoh, if it opens your eyeswell this is better than the last compromiseI was willing to be lost in the shadowsIf only you had let me knowAnd they wont give inCause they know what they're afterA kick in the faceLike its all that would matterand OooohhhhhOh my godI can't deny thisI've been taught just to murder and fight thisto bury it deeper where nobody can find itCause nobody wanted to knowOoh, if it opens your eyeswell this is better than a good compromiseI was willing to be lost in the shuffleIf only you had let me knowOoh, well then it's on with the showLike the tides out on the oceanThe waves are already set in motionThe only one in the game who's lost is you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's only that first verse that's in question, and it's funny, cause that's definitely the most striking one. I like how it's ambiguous and each can have their own interpretation that's more or less correct. OP should just make a list of everyone's variation that's been posted, probably quite a list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Star Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I just slowed the song way down in Audacity. I will post lyrics when finished dissecting each section/measure/beat/note, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's not how you're thinkingor as you've imaginedbeen living in the shade ofbeliefs that were fashionedto keep you in slavery and drain out your soulThis actually makes perfect sense. I think this is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Star Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's not as you're thinking, had you imagined, belief in a trade-off. Belief that we're fascists, leave your enslavery and drain out your soul. What can I do when there's so many liars that crawl through your veins like millions of spiders that seek out their victims and lure in the wiser. Watch out. Gotcha! Owww!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verruckt Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Belief that we're fascists? That's a new one ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) It's not how you're thinkingor as you've imaginedbeen living in the shade ofbeliefs that were fashionedto keep you in slavery and drain out your soulThis actually makes perfect sense. I think this is correct.that's the trick.'what was he writing about? probably not about someone being a legend... he was writing about society'http://hem.passagen.se/snoqalf/tr-19990922-fax.html Edited November 7, 2011 by Gagarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) It's not as you're thinking, had you imagined, belief in a trade-off. Belief that we're fascists, leave your enslavery and drain out your soul. What can I do when there's so many liars that crawl through your veins like millions of spiders that seek out their victims and lure in the wiser. Watch out. Gotcha! Owww!!!!!Fail.Enslavery is not a word. It's not even something anyone says. Edited November 7, 2011 by Gagarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 This is really funny because I've had this song for years (not the biggest fan of it), and never bothered to look up the lyrics. It's interesting, because the first few seconds sound like mumbo jumbo, then when Axl says "What can I do..." ...POOF! It's English. Glad to finally know what the hell he's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's not as you're thinking, had you imagined, belief in a trade-off. Belief that we're fascists, leave your enslavery and drain out your soul. What can I do when there's so many liars that crawl through your veins like millions of spiders that seek out their victims and lure in the wiser. Watch out. Gotcha! Owww!!!!!Fail.Enslavery is not a word. It's not even something anyone says.I'm not seeing "disinfatuation" or "inconquerable" in my dictionary, either. Axl makes his own words when he needs to and I like the sound of it.Don't know how you hear fascists though. Are you just trying to close the debate with Godwin's Law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's not as you're thinking, had you imagined, belief in a trade-off. Belief that we're fascists, leave your enslavery and drain out your soul. What can I do when there's so many liars that crawl through your veins like millions of spiders that seek out their victims and lure in the wiser. Watch out. Gotcha! Owww!!!!!Fail.Enslavery is not a word. It's not even something anyone says.I'm not seeing "disinfatuation" or "inconquerable" in my dictionary, either. Axl makes his own words when he needs to and I like the sound of it.Don't know how you hear fascists though. Are you just trying to close the debate with Godwin's Law?Actually - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconquerable , http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/inconquerable .And Axl didn't come up with disinfatuation himself. While not strictly 'a word', it's been in use. Correctly? Incorrectly? You be the judge.http://www.thefreelibrary.com/With+Investors+Tapped+Out,+M-T-Oriented+%60Dot+Com'+Goes+Under.-a066010642 -from a news article in a business journalhttp://books.google.com/books?id=c9oYzu3FjrgC&pg=PT55&lpg=PT55&dq=disinfatuation+-chinese&source=bl&ots=ioTXqYPvUv&sig=bG51Iyo2ovC6o7EKZcx0qKNd4Ww&hl=en&ei=_Yy3TvX0J_PFsQK-96XODA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCTge#v=onepage&q=disinfatuation%20-chinese&f=false - from a literary criticism/academic bookhttp://www.anukriti.net/pgdts/course422/ch12f.html - used in one academic's translation of a text.There's a bunch of NON-GNR hits using disinfatuation.You can get away with adding 'dis' and 'in' to words.'Enslavement' is a word. But enslavery wouldn't make any sense, and wouldn't make any sense in the context of the line of the lyric.Enslavement means, basically, 'the state of being in slavery', or the 'act of making people slaves'.Google doesn't return ANY results of ANYONE trying o us enslavery.What would enslavery mean? Wouldn't the context just mean 'slavery'? Leave your slavery? Isn't it more likely that "in slavery" is the word, and not "enslavery"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Can we at least agree that ''trade-off'' is all wrong. Live versions show that he sings ''.....shade of''.I think I agree with the lyrics that Gagarin posted. That's the closest I've ever seen them.And isn't it nice to have a nice discussion every now and then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Fuck the etymology or lack thereof, I like the word enslavery and hear it in the song.http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=%22Enslavery%22+%22oh+my+god%22&pbx=1&oq=%22Enslavery%22+%22oh+my+god%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=11020l13013l2l13185l12l10l0l0l0l0l173l1133l5.5l10l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=a68f5572419f456d&biw=1280&bih=621And its on all the lyrics recorded here. Granted, it may be wrong, but other people hear this too. Edited November 7, 2011 by Flayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Fuck the etymology or lack thereof, I like the word enslavery and hear it in the song.http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=%22Enslavery%22+%22oh+my+god%22&pbx=1&oq=%22Enslavery%22+%22oh+my+god%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=11020l13013l2l13185l12l10l0l0l0l0l173l1133l5.5l10l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=a68f5572419f456d&biw=1280&bih=621And its on all the lyrics recorded here. Granted, it may be wrong, but other people hear this too.Copy-paste is a helluva drug.All of those include the 'trade-off' lyric...and 'version'.Lyric crawler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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