Vincent Vega Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 What are some great bands, or some great songs, that have utterly terrible or cringeworthy lyrics?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 IRON MAIDEN!!!! Gigantic gap between the quality of the music and that of the lyrics. I love them anyway as ridiculous as their lyrics are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) iron maiden has great lyrics for the most part the x factor is the best for lyrics IMO post AJFA metallica has some laughably bad lyrics Edited August 19, 2012 by bran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 iron maiden has great lyrics for the most part the x factor is the best for lyrics IMO They're amateurish as fuck! Steve Harris couldn't rhyme if his and his entire hometown's lives depended on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 iron maiden has great lyrics for the most part the x factor is the best for lyrics IMO They're amateurish as fuck! Steve Harris couldn't rhyme if his and his entire hometown's lives depended on it.i really dont see them (for the most part) as amateurish songs like fortunes of war, 2am, hallowed be thy name etc have great lyrics, who cares about rhyming lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Led Zeppelin at times although not always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Owl City, that Adam Young knows how to create some absolutely stunning soundscapes and arrangements. He even manages to write some clever lyrics sometimes... But most of the time it's all a bit awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Most bands have one or two stinkers when it comes to the lyrics, or because the music was first, the words were just thrown together and made the song work. Songwriters who also write poetry bring up having to bastardize a line or two just because the rhythm of the words is better. If Maiden work on music first, it makes sense if they don't try to write eloquently. To me the best songs are simple and to the point, a lot of times they're dumbing down to write songs, and prob. have notebooks of poems stashed away. Esp. if they're writing the lyrics in the studio as they're recording. Down the road, you'll hear them talk about rushing to write down the words in minutes because they were burning money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Apparently Iggy improvised them on the spot always, somehow i find that impossible to believe. They do at timesCome off that way but there's almost always too much substance to em, if it is true then he's a bigger genius than i first thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 Apparently Iggy improvised them on the spot always, somehow i find that impossible to believe. They do at timesCome off that way but there's almost always too much substance to em, if it is true then he's a bigger genius than i first thought.As someone who writes lyrics I find it's much freer to just come up with the shit on the spot and sing and rhyme and riff of that and create a melody that way. Writing it down and trying to make a rhyme is kinda tedious. It's fun as hell to just come up with a song or lyrics and sing it out as the song comes into your head, easier to rhyme or make it flow that way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevelle Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 As much as I like Nine Inch Nails, a lot of Trent's lyrics come off as angsty teenage poetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) For a band that is rooted in rapped vocals, RHCP has pretty bad lyrics, especially past BSSM. I'm With You has some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard."Be my wife, I think you're right that we should mate" - Factory of Faith"I'm comin for ya cuz, cuz I adore ya and, I'd like to get inside your mass production...the day I blew on ya, you said I grew on ya" - Did I Let You KnowI love the melody in both of those songs but....come on.I also hate Led Zeppelin's use of the word "baby". Edited August 20, 2012 by Jakey Styley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevelle Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 For a band that is rooted in rapped vocals, RHCP has pretty bad lyrics, especially past BSSM. I'm With You has some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard."Be my wife, I think you're right that we should mate" - Factory of Faith"I'm comin for ya cuz, cuz I adore ya and, I'd like to get inside your mass production...the day I blew on ya, you said I grew on ya" - Did I Let You KnowI love the melody in both of those songs but....come on.Yeah, gotta agree with you. Kiedis' lyrics are the reason I cannot get into RHCP in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrandyk Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 When I think bad lyrics I think this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 When I think bad lyrics I think this :rofl-lol: that is very true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 As someone who writes lyrics I find it's much freer to just come up with the shit on the spot and sing and rhyme and riff of that and create a melody that way. Writing it down and trying to make a rhyme is kinda tedious. It's fun as hell to just come up with a song or lyrics and sing it out as the song comes into your head, easier to rhyme or make it flow that way! it just don't sit well with me that "i'm a street walkin' cheetah with a heartful of napalm, i'm the runaway son of a nuclear A Bomb, i am the worlds forgotten boy, the one who searches and destroys" is improvised, it's too perfect, songs like China Girl, Blah Blah Blah, Lust for Life, they just sound too good to be improvised. They have certain repetitious elements that perhaps lend themselves to the notion that it's something done by a singer listening to the music and trying to follow it lyrically but overall they're just of too high a quality.For a band that is rooted in rapped vocals, RHCP has pretty bad lyrics, especially past BSSM. I'm With You has some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard."Be my wife, I think you're right that we should mate" - Factory of Faith"I'm comin for ya cuz, cuz I adore ya and, I'd like to get inside your mass production...the day I blew on ya, you said I grew on ya" - Did I Let You KnowI love the melody in both of those songs but....come on.I don't think so, i think they're meant to be like that, it's kinda freewheeling and fun and...y'know, Keidis isn't claiming to be God MC here, it's just kinda fun funk with some silly rap to it, it's charming i reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) "The Future"Give me back my broken night my mirrored room, my secret life it's lonely here, there's no one left to torture Give me absolute control over every living soul And lie beside me, baby, that's an order! Give me crack and anal sex Take the only tree that's left and stuff it up the hole in your culture Give me back the Berlin wall give me Stalin and St Paul I've seen the future, brother: it is murder. Things are going to slide, slide in all directions Won't be nothing Nothing you can measure anymore The blizzard, the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold and it has overturned the order of the soul When they said REPENT REPENT I wonder what they meant When they said REPENT REPENT I wonder what they meant When they said REPENT REPENT I wonder what they meant You don't know me from the wind you never will, you never did I'm the little jew who wrote the Bible I've seen the nations rise and fall I've heard their stories, heard them all but love's the only engine of survival Your servant here, he has been told to say it clear, to say it cold: It's over, it ain't going any further And now the wheels of heaven stop you feel the devil's riding crop Get ready for the future: it is murder Things are going to slide ... There'll be the breaking of the ancient western code Your private life will suddenly explode There'll be phantoms There'll be fires on the road and the white man dancing You'll see a woman hanging upside down her features covered by her fallen gown and all the lousy little poets coming round tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson and the white man dancin' Give me back the Berlin wall Give me Stalin and St Paul Give me Christ or give me Hiroshima Destroy another fetus now We don't like children anyhow I've seen the future, baby: it is murder Things are going to slide ... When they said REPENT REPENT ... For my money, the best lyrics ever put down in a song. Thats actually so good lyrically that it works just as a standalone piece of poetry, it really is the most wonderful lyrics i've ever come across, just flawless. "you don't know me from the wind, you never will, you never did, i'm the little jew who wrote the bible", delicious It's been so long since i listened to Leonard Cohen, pretty much since my mid-teens and i'm coming back to it now after a while and God it's all so fresh and familiar. I do think i didn't have the suss at that age to truly get what it was always about but the majesty and lyrical grace just drew me in again and again.Forgot how much i loved this old bastard, what a fuckin' brilliant artist, ordinary mortals don't write lyrics like that. Found my first Cohen CD and got it onto my ipod, it's called The Songs of Leonard Cohen and it's the fuckin' bollocks. Edited August 21, 2012 by sugaraylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I agree Lenny, it's outstanding. Even outstanding for Cohen who is extraordinary on a normal day. Kind of haunting how relevant it is to today and how crazy the world has gotten in the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 +1 to Maiden and NIN, rarely they're able to write serious lyrical content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 For a band that is rooted in rapped vocals, RHCP has pretty bad lyrics, especially past BSSM. I'm With You has some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard."Be my wife, I think you're right that we should mate" - Factory of Faith"I'm comin for ya cuz, cuz I adore ya and, I'd like to get inside your mass production...the day I blew on ya, you said I grew on ya" - Did I Let You KnowI love the melody in both of those songs but....come on.I don't think so, i think they're meant to be like that, it's kinda freewheeling and fun and...y'know, Keidis isn't claiming to be God MC here, it's just kinda fun funk with some silly rap to it, it's charming i reckon That kind of thing fits for the fun, early RHCP stuff but post BSSM it often sounds out of place with the serious tone of the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 For a band that is rooted in rapped vocals, RHCP has pretty bad lyrics, especially past BSSM. I'm With You has some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard."Be my wife, I think you're right that we should mate" - Factory of Faith"I'm comin for ya cuz, cuz I adore ya and, I'd like to get inside your mass production...the day I blew on ya, you said I grew on ya" - Did I Let You KnowI love the melody in both of those songs but....come on.I don't think so, i think they're meant to be like that, it's kinda freewheeling and fun and...y'know, Keidis isn't claiming to be God MC here, it's just kinda fun funk with some silly rap to it, it's charming i reckon That kind of thing fits for the fun, early RHCP stuff but post BSSM it often sounds out of place with the serious tone of the music.Yeah i suppose i see what you mean though, it has the feel of like, some improvised anyway so perhaps it's not meant for that kind of scrutiny. I always thought it worked great though because...it has sort of the ridiculousness of certain funk to it, the comedic aspect and it's like, you're a white guy in a funk rock band, you're gonna rap, you're never gonna swim with the big boys on this one so whats a boy to do? Make it purposely amateurish and playful and goofy and unashamed in being so, it kinda gives it it's own charm, it reminds me of like rap in the very very early sense of like, y'know, the sorta stuff James Brown did, rapping as Dolemite would have you understand the concept http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARepQeZGyBo&feature=relatedWatch that from about 28 mins...y'see what i mean, it's sort of in that tradition A lot of people listen to it and go, ugh, listen to that whiteboy fuck rapping up but he's actually not, it's just...more in that 70s jive-talk tradition of rapping. The association should be obvious bearing in mind the Chilli Peppers funk roots. But i see what you mean, it tends to clang a bit when dealing with more serious type issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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