Guest Len B'stard Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 You might like the Hot Space album then, Queen does gay disco.I just remember hearing it when i was little when it first came out and my sister saying he wrote it whilst he had AIDS (dunno how true that is) and i remember thinking wow, i mean you think songs about death you think doom and gloom and misery and wrenching guitars and yet you got this upbeat dance track, albeit with not exactly upbeat lyrics but...it just sounds like someone putting a brave face on something and trying to...i dunno, it just has this real genuine human quality to it that i've never forgetton. 'got to be some good times ahead' fuckin' hell Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 It was around 1986 when Freddie tested positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Nile Rodgers prob. should have produced Hot Space if they wanted to do a disco/funk album, but Queen with the Chic girls in the background? I don't know how it would've panned out. The band said part of the problem was the guy Freddie was dating at the time was giving his feedback on the songs and affected the course of the album. The saving grace is Under Pressure. They never should have gone to Munich to make it and stayed in NYC to make it. The focus wasn't there and it came through on the album. I'm sure there were drugs involved, and none of them would deny it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Did John have a lot of say? Funk/Disco was right up his ally. I know he wrote Back Chat and was opposed to a guitar solo but Brian (thankfully) convinced him. The songs were a lot better live. Body Language was awful though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Well love kind of killed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 All this information on his love life has been coming out of the woodwork lately. I've never even heard of Bill Reid until earlier today. Now I've read that Freddie was sexually abused a number of times during childhood which supposedly fucked up his love life. The way I see it is that he needed men to get off but women to love him. If that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Yes, the band was split between Deacon/Mercury who wanted to lead the band into a disco direction, and May/Taylor who were the rockers. They were recording in some ghastly cold war building in Germany and May was hitting the bottle as he was getting a divorce and there was a fair bit of coke. Not a good time. Hot Space is one of those notoriously 'bad' albums (a bit like St Anger). Even Mercury said it was crap when they were touring it. Live however, the material sounds better. There was a lot of promise there but the production ruined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Staying Power and Back Chat were amazing during the Milton Keyes concert. I think The Works showed the band reached a compromise. You have a well represented band. Deacon for I Want to Break Free, Freddie for Its a Hard Life, Roger for Radio Gaga and Brian for Hammer to Fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 You might like the Hot Space album then, Queen does gay disco.I just remember hearing it when i was little when it first came out and my sister saying he wrote it whilst he had AIDS (dunno how true that is) and i remember thinking wow, i mean you think songs about death you think doom and gloom and misery and wrenching guitars and yet you got this upbeat dance track, albeit with not exactly upbeat lyrics but...it just sounds like someone putting a brave face on something and trying to...i dunno, it just has this real genuine human quality to it that i've never forgetton. 'got to be some good times ahead' fuckin' hell Fred People also say Bohemian Rhapsody and Who Wants To Live Forever were written about Freddie having AIDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 You might like the Hot Space album then, Queen does gay disco.I just remember hearing it when i was little when it first came out and my sister saying he wrote it whilst he had AIDS (dunno how true that is) and i remember thinking wow, i mean you think songs about death you think doom and gloom and misery and wrenching guitars and yet you got this upbeat dance track, albeit with not exactly upbeat lyrics but...it just sounds like someone putting a brave face on something and trying to...i dunno, it just has this real genuine human quality to it that i've never forgetton. 'got to be some good times ahead' fuckin' hell Fred People also say Bohemian Rhapsody and Who Wants To Live Forever were written about Freddie having AIDS.Really? How so with Bohemian Rhapsody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin White Duke Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 News of the World and Innuendo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 You might like the Hot Space album then, Queen does gay disco.I just remember hearing it when i was little when it first came out and my sister saying he wrote it whilst he had AIDS (dunno how true that is) and i remember thinking wow, i mean you think songs about death you think doom and gloom and misery and wrenching guitars and yet you got this upbeat dance track, albeit with not exactly upbeat lyrics but...it just sounds like someone putting a brave face on something and trying to...i dunno, it just has this real genuine human quality to it that i've never forgetton. 'got to be some good times ahead' fuckin' hell Fred People also say Bohemian Rhapsody and Who Wants To Live Forever were written about Freddie having AIDS.Really? How so with Bohemian Rhapsody?Bohemian Rhapsody was written in 1975, years before AIDS became known. Either Freddie had extraordinary premonition or someone who came up with that theory is a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 You might like the Hot Space album then, Queen does gay disco.I just remember hearing it when i was little when it first came out and my sister saying he wrote it whilst he had AIDS (dunno how true that is) and i remember thinking wow, i mean you think songs about death you think doom and gloom and misery and wrenching guitars and yet you got this upbeat dance track, albeit with not exactly upbeat lyrics but...it just sounds like someone putting a brave face on something and trying to...i dunno, it just has this real genuine human quality to it that i've never forgetton. 'got to be some good times ahead' fuckin' hell Fred People also say Bohemian Rhapsody and Who Wants To Live Forever were written about Freddie having AIDS.Really? How so with Bohemian Rhapsody?I'm not sure, I think it was the "Mama, just killed a man, put a gun against his head, pulled the trigger, now he's dead" being about giving someone else AIDS. Pure BS, just something I've heard before.And of course Who Wants to Live Forever wasn't even written by Mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 You might like the Hot Space album then, Queen does gay disco.I just remember hearing it when i was little when it first came out and my sister saying he wrote it whilst he had AIDS (dunno how true that is) and i remember thinking wow, i mean you think songs about death you think doom and gloom and misery and wrenching guitars and yet you got this upbeat dance track, albeit with not exactly upbeat lyrics but...it just sounds like someone putting a brave face on something and trying to...i dunno, it just has this real genuine human quality to it that i've never forgetton. 'got to be some good times ahead' fuckin' hell Fred People also say Bohemian Rhapsody and Who Wants To Live Forever were written about Freddie having AIDS.Really? How so with Bohemian Rhapsody?Bohemian Rhapsody:"Too late, my time has comeSends shivers down my spineBody's aching all the timeGoodbye everybody - I've got to goGotta leave you all behind and face the truthMama, ooo - (anyway the wind blows)I don't want to dieI sometimes wish I'd never been born at all" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Shit song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 You might like the Hot Space album then, Queen does gay disco.I just remember hearing it when i was little when it first came out and my sister saying he wrote it whilst he had AIDS (dunno how true that is) and i remember thinking wow, i mean you think songs about death you think doom and gloom and misery and wrenching guitars and yet you got this upbeat dance track, albeit with not exactly upbeat lyrics but...it just sounds like someone putting a brave face on something and trying to...i dunno, it just has this real genuine human quality to it that i've never forgetton. 'got to be some good times ahead' fuckin' hell Fred People also say Bohemian Rhapsody and Who Wants To Live Forever were written about Freddie having AIDS.Really? How so with Bohemian Rhapsody?Bohemian Rhapsody:"Too late, my time has comeSends shivers down my spineBody's aching all the timeGoodbye everybody - I've got to goGotta leave you all behind and face the truthMama, ooo - (anyway the wind blows)I don't want to dieI sometimes wish I'd never been born at all"Nothing to do with AIDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 You might like the Hot Space album then, Queen does gay disco.I just remember hearing it when i was little when it first came out and my sister saying he wrote it whilst he had AIDS (dunno how true that is) and i remember thinking wow, i mean you think songs about death you think doom and gloom and misery and wrenching guitars and yet you got this upbeat dance track, albeit with not exactly upbeat lyrics but...it just sounds like someone putting a brave face on something and trying to...i dunno, it just has this real genuine human quality to it that i've never forgetton. 'got to be some good times ahead' fuckin' hell Fred People also say Bohemian Rhapsody and Who Wants To Live Forever were written about Freddie having AIDS.Really? How so with Bohemian Rhapsody?Bohemian Rhapsody:"Too late, my time has comeSends shivers down my spineBody's aching all the timeGoodbye everybody - I've got to goGotta leave you all behind and face the truthMama, ooo - (anyway the wind blows)I don't want to dieI sometimes wish I'd never been born at all"Nothing to do with AIDS.I know, it was written years before Freddie likely even contracted it, but people who go by the "Bohemian Rhapsody is about AIDs" theory usually reference that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 And they are idiots. Because AIDS wasn't known to the public at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Shit song.http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/greenday/longview.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 And they are idiots. Because AIDS wasn't known to the public at the time.I know.I wonder, a little off topic, but I wonder when Freddie caught AIDs? He was diagnosed in 1987 but I'm not sure if it was still HIV or if the disease had proceeded to AIDs at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 And they are idiots. Because AIDS wasn't known to the public at the time.I know.I wonder, a little off topic, but I wonder when Freddie caught AIDs? He was diagnosed in 1987 but I'm not sure if it was still HIV or if the disease had proceeded to AIDs at that point. Speculation is he contracted HIV in the early 80s while spending time in New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Shit song. http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/greenday/longview.htmlI am also aware that Bohemian Rhapsody is a critically acclaimed song, but I still think it's shit. Aren't opinions wonderful?I would also like to point out that I can't find a single Queen song I enjoy. I suppose I'm just bitter because when I was fourteen I biked four miles to the record store to get into music, and people told me Queen was a good band, so I bought a copy of their greatest hits. When I found out the songs were awful I was crushed. The good news is I am a firm believer in recycling so it made a good coaster for glassware and a decent frisbee in the park. CDs have multiple uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Shit song. http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/greenday/longview.htmlI am also aware that Bohemian Rhapsody is a critically acclaimed song, but I still think it's shit. Aren't opinions wonderful?I would also like to point out that I can't find a single Queen song I enjoy. I suppose I'm just bitter because when I was fourteen I biked four miles to the record store to get into music, and people told me Queen was a good band, so I bought a copy of their greatest hits. When I found out the songs were awful I was crushed. The good news is I am a firm believer in recycling so it made a good coaster for glassware and a decent frisbee in the park. CDs have multiple uses.You're a fucking moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinegunner Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 People also say Bohemian Rhapsody and Who Wants To Live Forever were written about Freddie having AIDS.I think Scandal was.And The Show Must Go On. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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