WFA Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 http://metro.co.uk/2014/09/07/identity-of-jack-the-ripper-finally-revealed-using-cutting-edge-technology-of-course-4859504/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Quick, call the police! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Is it conclusive? I don't think so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val22 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Even if they ever find real proof to who Jack the Ripper was, what does it matter now? It's like over 100 years. I don't think anyone would care.\I think it was either one of the royal family or a important doctor. He had to have had knowledge of the human body because of the way he cut the women up.It would be cool if they could find out who it was, but I doubt this mystery will ever be solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What the hell are you talking about? The identity of Jack the Ripper being revealed is HUGE. That is like finding Jimmy Hoffa's body. Or even the Zodiac KillerI don't know how much of this is true. I think there should be more research, but it would put away all those theories for good. Like Kosminski was one of the main subjects but for some reason people think there was some kind of cover up. But it turns out it was a foreigner and was not just xenophobia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 We will never know, Patricia Cornwall wrote a very entertaining book on the Ripper murders where she claimed it was the artist Walter Sickert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixes Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 There have been some theories that Jack The Ripper is in fact, I'm an idiot, salami king of Long Island 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 We will never know, Patricia Cornwall wrote a very entertaining book on the Ripper murders where she claimed it was the artist Walter Sickert...DNA match is pretty conclusive evidence, plus this guy was considered amongst the suspects.From Hell to me will still be a good movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLDEN CAULFIELD Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I DONT KNOW HOW TOO POST YOU TUBE LINKS BUT LOOK AT THE LAST TEN MIHUTES OF THE JACK THE RIPPER EPISODE OF "KILLER CONTACTS" PRETTY COSMIC CONSIDERING 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It's interesting, for sure, but too much time has passed for anyone to ever really close the book on a case this ubiquitous.I'm still holding out for the identity of the Zodiac. We might be able to swallow that one if it the answer comes all neatly wrapped in a bow in the next twenty years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ripperologists! Give trainspotters and trekkies a run for their money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It's interesting, for sure, but too much time has passed for anyone to ever really close the book on a case this ubiquitous.I'm still holding out for the identity of the Zodiac. We might be able to swallow that one if it the answer comes all neatly wrapped in a bow in the next twenty years. Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac killer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman1987 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Thank goodness, our god-fearing whores are finally safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Haha! Jack the Ripper got caught! He will forever remain in the shadow of Jack the Stripper who killed more people over a longer period of time and in a much more interesting way (knocking prostitute's teeth out so they couldn't bite down while they were getting choked to death by his giant cock), and who's identity is still not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It's interesting, for sure, but too much time has passed for anyone to ever really close the book on a case this ubiquitous.I'm still holding out for the identity of the Zodiac. We might be able to swallow that one if it the answer comes all neatly wrapped in a bow in the next twenty years. Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac killer. No, Arthur Leigh Allen was Arthur Leigh Allen. Most definitely not the Zodiac killer. A lot of time has been wasted on that fellow. He was a nobody and by his own behavior, he helped perpetuate the myth that he was Z. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2MPjfZ_8vE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The bad news is that I lost a $10 bet. I thought his name was actually gonna be Jack. Dammit! I was getting 100,000 to 1! So close to a million dollars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
***Flawless Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 People are disputing it and the guys claiming this have a book coming out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It's interesting, for sure, but too much time has passed for anyone to ever really close the book on a case this ubiquitous.I'm still holding out for the identity of the Zodiac. We might be able to swallow that one if it the answer comes all neatly wrapped in a bow in the next twenty years. Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac killer. No, he wasn't. He was made into a character by an author who was trying to sell books. It was later proven that about 90% of the "evidence" that Graysmith had and promoted was actually false or extremely spun to try and make ALA appear to be the Zodiac. The majority of his book and the famous movie Zodiac are both pretty much based on non-facts made up by Graysmith.Unfortunately, there probably never was an actual Zodiac serial killer. The reason he was never caught was probably because the killings were done by different people - and were erroneously tied together for awhile as the work of one man. A lot of the law enforcement officials from the time period and area never believe it was one man doing it all. Random murders - that's the reason no one suspect was ever able to be tied to all the different killings.A few years back the police released thousands of pages of case notes relating to the initial investigation. Each murder actually had a specific suspect or two, the letters didn't really match up, Graysmith's book is a load of garbage, etc.And I say that as a huge fan of the case. I saw the movie, read all the books, spent time on Z forums and message boards. I personally believed that Richard Gaikowski made the most sense as being Zodiac. But once you look at the police documents, it makes it pretty obvious that there was no "Zodiac Killer." Even things like the famous calls to the police from the "killer" turn out to be false.Graysmith took a lot of random events...............chose his favorite suspect..............lied about certain important facts.......then twisted everything else to fit into making Allen look guilty.Funny thing is that Graysmith's book is what made the Z killer one of the most popular unsolved cases of all time. Yet, it also was so inaccurate in terms of facts that even the police knew it was an absolute joke, and thousands of people have wasted thousands of hours trying to solve the case and not knowing they were using lies as their evidence.Even if they ever find real proof to who Jack the Ripper was, what does it matter now? It's like over 100 years. I don't think anyone would care.\I think it was either one of the royal family or a important doctor. He had to have had knowledge of the human body because of the way he cut the women up.It would be cool if they could find out who it was, but I doubt this mystery will ever be solved.SMH.Nobody would care? Nobody would care if the most infamous unsolved murder case of all time was solved? How many movies and books have been written about possible suspects? Ripper is one of the 10 most popular unsolved mysteries/scandals of all time. Millions of people would care.YOU think it was a member of the royal family? LOL, did you call Scotland Yard and let them know? And why would it be an "important" doctor and not just a regular doctor? You say nobody would care, but your very answer of your suspects shows how delusional your statement is. Why must the killer be somebody famous? The more likely answer would be that it was some low-life scumbag who enjoy cutting up prostitutes. I hate to burst your bubble, but not every serial killer is Dexter or Hannibal Lecter.Are your opinions on every issue based on pop culture and what you see in the movies? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yet he publishes it first in the Daily Mail.Fascinating if true: I work in Whitechapel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yet he publishes it first in the Daily Mail.Look at the sidebar on the Daily Mail website. It wouldn't be the first time they've practically displayed a woman's innards for public consumption. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 It's interesting, for sure, but too much time has passed for anyone to ever really close the book on a case this ubiquitous.I'm still holding out for the identity of the Zodiac. We might be able to swallow that one if it the answer comes all neatly wrapped in a bow in the next twenty years. Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac killer. No, he wasn't. He was made into a character by an author who was trying to sell books. It was later proven that about 90% of the "evidence" that Graysmith had and promoted was actually false or extremely spun to try and make ALA appear to be the Zodiac. The majority of his book and the famous movie Zodiac are both pretty much based on non-facts made up by Graysmith.Unfortunately, there probably never was an actual Zodiac serial killer. The reason he was never caught was probably because the killings were done by different people - and were erroneously tied together for awhile as the work of one man. A lot of the law enforcement officials from the time period and area never believe it was one man doing it all. Random murders - that's the reason no one suspect was ever able to be tied to all the different killings.A few years back the police released thousands of pages of case notes relating to the initial investigation. Each murder actually had a specific suspect or two, the letters didn't really match up, Graysmith's book is a load of garbage, etc.And I say that as a huge fan of the case. I saw the movie, read all the books, spent time on Z forums and message boards. I personally believed that Richard Gaikowski made the most sense as being Zodiac. But once you look at the police documents, it makes it pretty obvious that there was no "Zodiac Killer." Even things like the famous calls to the police from the "killer" turn out to be false.Graysmith took a lot of random events...............chose his favorite suspect..............lied about certain important facts.......then twisted everything else to fit into making Allen look guilty.Funny thing is that Graysmith's book is what made the Z killer one of the most popular unsolved cases of all time. Yet, it also was so inaccurate in terms of facts that even the police knew it was an absolute joke, and thousands of people have wasted thousands of hours trying to solve the case and not knowing they were using lies as their evidence.This is a very logical conclusion and not one that I necessarily disagree with. That being said, ALA, at the very least, could have written a few of the letters and he may have committed a few of the murders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Apparently they tested an old white Ford Bronco for the DNA to prove this Ripper identity thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Arthur Leigh Allen had nothing to do with Zodiac. Zilch. He could have written the letters, but he didn't. The man who was Zodiac wrote those letters and I'm quite confident he committed each of the murders alone and without an accomplice. The most I believe Allen was responsible for was stalking Robert Graysmith and calling him late at night. This was because Allen knew Graysmith was an amateur sleuth trying to connect him to a case that, at that point, began to annoy him. Graysmith used this as further evidence that Allen was Zodiac. He was just an angry, sexually repressed white-guy who grew to hate the anonymity the Zodiac case brought him.Whomever the Zodiac killer was, he probably came under the radar of law enforcement at some point, as all killers tend to do, even if it is just as a footnote somewhere in the investigative process. I don't believe he was any of the publicized suspects, as he seems to have been too wily to be one of those characters.The last good book I read on Zodiac was the case for Earl Van Best Jr., written by his son:Though hardly conclusive, this gentleman has interesting ties to the Zodiac case:-He has a matching fingerprint to the one left at the scene of the San Francisco murder-He has matching handwriting to the person who prepared the Zodiac letters (matched by experts)-His name appears in the "My name is..." Zodiac cipher-He actually looks like the composite of the killer (funny how not a single suspect before him did)-Best of all: he had actual MOTIVE. Not for the commission of the crimes, per say, but of the fucking with the press that occurred afterwards. Specifically, with one San Francisco Chronicle writer named Paul Avery (Robert Downey Jr, to jog your memory) whom he hated with a burning passion.Again, take anything and everything with a grain of salt in these books that claim to "solve" historic cases. If nothing else, they're great material for weekday nights when shitty TV is about the only thing that can pass the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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