BBruin66 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I think they should make a great concert,even without the pyro..sounded like a big excuse.If the venue had only 3,000 people..those people should be respected,they went to the fuckin' place to see GNR and paid for it.There's a shit promotion for this tour,that's not the fans' fault.Well,I really expect that this tour will be sucessful in the end.And hope for an announcement till the end of this week.3,000 was probably an afternoon number. many, many people go to concerts at the last minute. the place would have been 75% full imoThe only seat tickets left on ticket master were in the back corners high up in the arena...Maybe there were a ton of pits tickets left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheNightTrain Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 (edited) I think they should make a great concert,even without the pyro..sounded like a big excuse.If the venue had only 3,000 people..those people should be respected,they went to the fuckin' place to see GNR and paid for it.There's a shit promotion for this tour,that's not the fans' fault.Well,I really expect that this tour will be sucessful in the end.And hope for an announcement till the end of this week.3,000 was probably an afternoon number. many, many people go to concerts at the last minute. the place would have been 75% full imoQuit holding on to that.Same day sales NEVER outnumber pre day sales.I've gone to MANY concerts at the last minute that had 'a few thousand tickets left,' and many of them sold out just after I got there early to get MY tickets.but i know the number ratios you're talking about, and i'm just saying that there could have been 5,000 people there. they also sometimes saturate the radio with ads on the day of the show if sales are slacking.The only seat tickets left on ticket master were in the back corners high up in the arena...Maybe there were a ton of pits tickets left?that's what bugs me. there's so many axl haters on the net, where did this 3,000 number come from anyway? it's probably an old number. and last i checked, businesses don't just offer that info to any tom, dick or harry. every show has this 'oh no, bad sales.' then we get the fans reporting back with phrases like 'nicely full.' Edited November 7, 2006 by OnTheNightTrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooze72 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 i think the obvious, logical truth probably goes like this:the fire marshall people took exception to the pyro/something else (see below) axl/gnr management got in an arguement with them about it, and it got heated (no pun intended!)finally, axl being axl, said "fuck this. we're half capacity anyway. let's cyphen some of these fans into the next undersold show, and refund whoever doesnt wanna do that. that gets these dickheads out of my face, gives me a night off, and insures i'll play for more people tomorrow."the truth is prolly somewhere between the official statement and the fact that the venue was undersold.OhYesIndeedIndeed, you just saved me the touble of posting the very same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 In case anyone is interested, there are still floor tickets available for the Worcester show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenstixx Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I think they should make a great concert,even without the pyro..sounded like a big excuse.If the venue had only 3,000 people..those people should be respected,they went to the fuckin' place to see GNR and paid for it.There's a shit promotion for this tour,that's not the fans' fault.Well,I really expect that this tour will be sucessful in the end.And hope for an announcement till the end of this week.3,000 was probably an afternoon number. many, many people go to concerts at the last minute. the place would have been 75% full imoQuit holding on to that.Same day sales NEVER outnumber pre day sales.I've gone to MANY concerts at the last minute that had 'a few thousand tickets left,' and many of them sold out just after I got there early to get MY tickets.but i know the number ratios you're talking about, and i'm just saying that there could have been 5,000 people there. they also sometimes saturate the radio with ads on the day of the show if sales are slacking.The only seat tickets left on ticket master were in the back corners high up in the arena...Maybe there were a ton of pits tickets left?that's what bugs me. there's so many axl haters on the net, where did this 3,000 number come from anyway? it's probably an old number. and last i checked, businesses don't just offer that info to any tom, dick or harry. every show has this 'oh no, bad sales.' then we get the fans reporting back with phrases like 'nicely full.'That's good logic. The Greensboro NC show had low sales until like 8:00 the night of. I found myself surrounded by fans, when I thought it would be easy to get near the band. GNR Canceled tonight and they had their reasons. End of fucking story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBruin66 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 i think the obvious, logical truth probably goes like this:the fire marshall people took exception to the pyro/something else (see below) axl/gnr management got in an arguement with them about it, and it got heated (no pun intended!)finally, axl being axl, said "fuck this. we're half capacity anyway. let's cyphen some of these fans into the next undersold show, and refund whoever doesnt wanna do that. that gets these dickheads out of my face, gives me a night off, and insures i'll play for more people tomorrow."the truth is prolly somewhere between the official statement and the fact that the venue was undersold.OhYesIndeedIndeed, you just saved me the touble of posting the very same thing. I agree, im a little glad we didn't all die from an LALD fireball too. As long as i get my money back... and too bad Portland is boring on a Monday night when you are only 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunzen Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I think they should make a great concert,even without the pyro..sounded like a big excuse.If the venue had only 3,000 people..those people should be respected,they went to the fuckin' place to see GNR and paid for it.There's a shit promotion for this tour,that's not the fans' fault.Well,I really expect that this tour will be sucessful in the end.And hope for an announcement till the end of this week.3,000 was probably an afternoon number. many, many people go to concerts at the last minute. the place would have been 75% full imoQuit holding on to that.Same day sales NEVER outnumber pre day sales.I've gone to MANY concerts at the last minute that had 'a few thousand tickets left,' and many of them sold out just after I got there early to get MY tickets.but i know the number ratios you're talking about, and i'm just saying that there could have been 5,000 people there. they also sometimes saturate the radio with ads on the day of the show if sales are slacking.The only seat tickets left on ticket master were in the back corners high up in the arena...Maybe there were a ton of pits tickets left?that's what bugs me. there's so many axl haters on the net, where did this 3,000 number come from anyway? it's probably an old number. and last i checked, businesses don't just offer that info to any tom, dick or harry. every show has this 'oh no, bad sales.' then we get the fans reporting back with phrases like 'nicely full.'That's good logic. The Greensboro NC show had low sales until like 8:00 the night of. I found myself surrounded by fans, when I thought it would be easy to get near the band. GNR Canceled tonight and they had their reasons. End of fucking story.AMEN....whos up for coffee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 It's all over! Sell your tickets! Axl hates you! Tour cancelled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 That sucks for the ppl who had tickets to the show, but I dunno why everyone else is bitching. The tour is going on as planned, don't be a bunch of wankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 A cancelled tour at this point would be the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I was being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraMav Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Wow they actually put it on the official website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack99 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Billboard.com seem happy about the cancellation.... http://billboard.blogs.com/jadedinsider/20..._n_noshows.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINGTRADER Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 http://www.wgme.com/NewsWeather/streaming/newsE.shtmlthey lost atleast one fan tonight . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwideboss Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 They could have played without pyro, but the bitchy fire marshall probably got on Axl's nerves. If it were me, I would have done the same thing Axl did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Manson Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 3000 out of 6500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Might be time to release the album, just quietly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 (edited) This is just par for the course. I don't like "Papa Roach" but at least the singer and drummer showed some testicular fortitude by actually talking to the press. As long as CD comes out this year Axl can cancel all the shows he feels like. If CD isn't coming out this year I hope the winds of shit descend on Axl Rose. I felt really bad for that girl who bought 14 tickets also. Edited November 7, 2006 by Randy Lahey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINGTRADER Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 3000 out of 6500? what is funnier than that is Papa Roach telling the fans that they will make it up to them by scheduling a show in Portland. This moron thinks that people are there to see them to lol . It's 3,000 GNR fans douchebag . Now that I think about it i don't blame Axl for cancelling the show tonight . They should book small venues( 1000-2000 capacity) in small cities and big venues in big cities. It's so simple to figure out but GNR is run by morons . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Well they are playing Worcester. See what Axl says. Hopefully it's a good rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Manson Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 (edited) It's so simple to figure out but GNR is run by morons .Exactly! Edited November 7, 2006 by Charles Manson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Bummer. That one chick seemed like a hardcore Gunner.It's hilarious that they still show so much of Slash, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterthebath Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I Fucking hate papa roach - first they went from a crappy nu-metal band to a wanna be scremo band, then they bad mouth axl the other day for being late, now they say -"if it was our tour we'll play." talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. And to think I have to sit through them at MSG. You'd think they would at least once go to bat for GNR and try and tell the press about the firemarshal situation, but nooooooo they try an save face to the fans they never had . I look foward to them trying to jump on the next musical band wagon so people can finally see them for the posers they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-fukaji Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I dunno where to stand on this, can't say i didn't expect it at some point. America seems to have 'The Fall' effect on the band, in that whenever the band 'The Fall' go over to America, traditionally something always goes horribly fucking wrong mid tour. 1998 the band had a fight on stage and ended the show with only two members from an original five, and this year everyone bar the singer and his wife left the band.I don't get what keeps making GnR screw up in America!bizarre.There's other reasons a fire marshall might have cancelled the show ratehr than JUST blaming it on pyros, space limitations and bullshit like that. i don't know, it's pretty funny that people are finding that this reason is SO hard to believe when it's coming from managment themselves.Like they say, the tour will continue, but everyone will be watching and waiting for the next screw up, unfortunately. at leats we got a press release this time about why a show got cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Fuck them, can't even be arsed to find footage of current GnR.Shit happens get fucking over it, yeah it sucks for people there but this is rock n roll.For the record kick Papa as support Hey Merck if you need tips on PR then give me a call, even i could do a better job of promoting GnR than you!The GnR disaster tour takes off again.His name is Merck and he eats dead dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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