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3 hours ago, Nesret said:

I love the production-mess that CD is. :-D I can listen to it a thousand times and still hear new things and details. There are so many layers, so many things buried in the mix, I think it's absolutely fascinating, trying to figure out what the hell is actually exactly going on in all of these songs! It never gets old for me, it will probably always remain my most favourite record of all time for so many reasons.

This. So much this. After all these years I still hear new things. I love it. Final version of There Was A Time is such a masterpiece, for example. 

Though, I got to say I do love the demos too. Especially the bass-heavy versions. And IRS '99 has an amazing, untouchable vibe. 

I guess I love all those versions. I love the songs and it's cool to have different versions of them.

I think any chance of Velvet Revolver coming back died with Weiland. 

50 minutes ago, soon said:

Classy of Maynard to not mention that APC formed, in part, due to Axls floundering.

But the way Im hearing it, Maynard seems to say that Guns only had one "meal" (album)?

In my opinion, they kinda had. Illusions have some of Guns' greatest songs, but as albums they are a bit disjointed. They are good albums, but they had the potential to be great albums.

Good job! 

3 hours ago, moreblack said:

For other bands maybe, this is a band that's put out Jungle, PC, SCOM, YCBM.
Hardschool is a spec of dust you flick of your shoulder compared to those.

This. 

It's an okay-ish song, but nowhere near the quality Guns is able to produce.

If I would be the manager of Guns, I'd make sure they'd release three singles before releasing a full length record.

#1 WTTJ meets Chinese Democracy -type rocker

#2 An acoustic ballad

#3 A Guns epic combining elements from the two previous songs

Then WHAMMO! Album out and let the world (read: this forum) go nuts!

But pinball machines are all we get 😅

I once really liked Sixx AM and I still think they have a handful of legitimate good songs, but holy heck, that was bad. It's like these days mainstream rock bands are afraid of making rock music. It's ridiculous.

8 hours ago, surforia said:

No, I saw the last show of the Axl/DC tour in Philly.  He was out of the chair by then and he sounded even better than these videos.

He still didn't run around during the AC/DC shows (because he didn't "want it to make it about him" or whatever the reason was, which IMO was pretty considerate and cool). So that made him probably sound even better, because being still and standing gives you more control of your voice, than being still and sitting down. 

10 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Yep. Fernando said it was done. 

We had more than enough. #Grateful

44 minutes ago, Top-Hatted One said:

You are probably right. Further proof this is not a band. It’s a dysfunctional joke of a band while only purpose is lining the pockets of the band and their entourage. 
 

They’ve come a long way from the old loft behind guitar center with outdoor shower days 

"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

- Harvey Dent, 2008

6 hours ago, Sisyphus said:

I'll read the book when it comes out. I really don't mind Matt dishing out the dirt though. What makes Slash and Duff so fucking untouchable?

I liked Duff's book, it was very well written, but the political corectness annoyed me. Tell us something interesting for fucks sake. Burst some bubbles. He said so little about so many interesting things yet went on and on and on about his martial arts mumbo jumbo. Who gives. I bet I'll enjoy Matt's gossip more.

I guess it's a matter of either wanting to air you dirty laundry in public or not. I mean, everyone has some dirt on people they know well, but you can choose to be classy and respectful. And obviously Duff chose that route and told an interesting and reflecting story of his journey without throwing anyone under the bus. I think there's nothing wrong with that. 

I don't understand how you can be the manager of a legendary mainstream band and not have a marketing / social media plan?

Then, instead of being professional, you diss your band's diehard fans on reddit and make excuses.

Jesus... 

Downloaded it, but haven't read it 

Based on these tidbits and quotes, it's a) going to be an awkward read and b) no wonder they don't want him involved with the reunion.

Telling your side of the truth is one thing, but airing your dirty laundry in public is just kind of embarassing.

Nice to see proshot material of them performing, but that mix... yikes!

But hopefully they keep releasing more of these (with better audio). Cool stuff.

Beating a dead horse here, but Alice Cooper just released a new song freshly recorded with a video, which has sections/frames self-filmed by his fans at their homes.

That's how you keep your fanbase engaged.

Guns just keep us enraged.

6 minutes ago, Todubblebe said:

Wouldn’t it be cool if Axl could read a chapter or two from the book in the milddle of the setlist to keep the setlist fresch?

Maybe even crack a few jokes while he's at it.

Just end the fucking band. It's all a joke now.

It sure is! I just listened to it earlier today. Back when Chinese Democracy wasn't released and the only songs that were out were live versions of Chinese Democracy, Madagascar and The Blues, I listened to those Ghosts of Mars songs that have Buckethead and Robin Finck, and imagined how Chinese Democracy would sound like 

"Gn'R Machine"

I get the feeling that Sorum's ego colors some of the stories, but that is a pretty good description of this version of Gn'R. I don't know, maybe it's the years spent on this forum bitching about everything and getting cynical about the band, but Slash and Duff do seem a bit more corporate these days.

I'm still happy about the reunion, though.

*Yawn*

On 11.4.2020 at 5:12 PM, Joraz said:

Do we think if all the leaked tunes we heard became part of CD2 we would actually still like them as much as we do now or do we only like them this much because they are rare leaks? I for one love Hardschool and Atlas but i wonder if these were released under normal circumstances the songs would be as ‘good’ in a sense.

From recent leaks, in my opinion, Perhaps and State of Grace are genuinely good songs, but Atlas Shrugged and Hard School are only interesting because we have no other new music.

If Guns N' Roses want to make a comeback as a recording band, they need to release something better than Hard School as a first single. They would need a Slither-type of song, in my opinion. Then follow that with an acoustic ballad with an Axl-led piano. Then a third single could be more experimental, but still within the Guns N' Roses sound.

This band has so much wasted potential. It's so frustrating.

18 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I don't know, to me Slash and Axl are legit and not just some rich guy playing rock star. 

To me Depp is a legit rocker. He has always had a rebellious aura. Ok, he might not have a distinct sound, but his guitar playing is good and he has a nice voice. Plus he was a musician before he started acting. 

And he got rich by doing what he is good at, like Axl and Slash, so I don't see why him having money would be an argument against being legit. (Although, one could say they are all rich old guys playing rock stars these days.)

... I'm on a Gn'R forum defending Johnny Depp. Fuck my life...

I dig that. Cool little ditty.