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He probably thinks the slightly different vocals on parts of the official Perhaps release are from 1999 as well.

Remember the alleged hoarder @card5777? I had chatted with him extensively well over ten year ago, and asked him for the title of the "checkmate" song (before it was known as Jackie Chan or Hardschool), I provided him the lyrics, etc. He told me it was The General. We obviously now know that that song is clearly not The General. He could of been messing with me, as he did have a unique sense of humor, or maybe his full Hardschool/Jackie Chan was labeled incorrectly, but who knows. Some believe he was associated or the same person as @kingoffspring, another alleged hoarder. In short, I do not know if anyone outside of the band has CD era versions of The General. L!VE FREE who here I believe was @Brodie, may he RIP, likely had Leave Me Alone (Soul Monster), Seven, and many other tracks but I'm not sure about The General. I wish I asked him about that one. My personal favorite holy grail would be if all of the Bucket/Robin CD era material leaked. I'd imagine that would be more likely than the Bumble stuff leaking, which still contains Robin and Bucket, but you never know. I'm sure someone somewhere has a lot of it, if not all of it. They may be waiting for Guns to wrap up or officially release what they have before dropping their unheard stuff, in an effort not to hurt the band and/or draw additional legal attention. (Leaking an unreleased, unheard song vs leaking an earlier version of an officially released song, while also illegal, probably doesn't cause as much of an uproar from UMG/management/law enforcement) EDIT: @card5777 claimed to have all of the Roy Thomas Baker sessions. Back in the day, he said he would be surprised if anything leaked that he didn't have. He has long not been interested in even discussing GN'R. Some of the things he told me back then did end up being legit, which was apparent as more material leaked. He described Oh My God with Buckethead, including the parts Bucket plays during the chorus. He also said the early Chinese Democracy (the song) was a little more punk. He told me Seven was named so because that's the number of the band members involved in that song, and also that This I Love wasn't going to be on CD, but the band protested and convinced Axl to include it. He said several of the unreleased songs he had that were not on the 2008 album would no doubt be released, as several he said were A list material, which we have long known to be true. I believe he also said there was a Catcher In The Rye with a Buckethead solo that sounded closer to May's solo than Bumblefoot's solo. There were a few other small things I can't recall at the moment.

I can almost guarantee if they drop a single or even half of an album of CD-era song mixes with Bucket and Finck mixed with re-worked or actual new songs with NITL, the casuals won't know if it's not spelled out for them that Slash is not on a particular song or a group of songs. This happened with the 2008 album as well. Bucket's playing stands out more as being his own, but I bet most casuals are not going to be able to tell Finck from Slash anyways. It absolutely could work, and would be a nice nod to the hardcore fans who appreciate Bucket and Robin's work.

I meant to say at the Vienna after party there were unheard Guns songs playing, and The General was not the only one. There apparently was a piano driven rocker that was not Perhaps, and maybe more.

To be fair, I think Brain in that interview said he "thought" Axl sang on it, or something to that effect. But that doesn't matter, because we know Axl sings on it because of that party clip, AND members who were there said they heard Axl singing on it, and that it was not the only song with Axl on it that they have not heard before.

That makes me moist.

I want to listen to Perhaps and The General on audio cassette in my 1999 Mercedes Benz E320 and on compact disc in my Ford Explorer and Ranger. Make it happen, @Fernando!

Are the rumors true that the studio release of The General is going to have crowd noises inserted from the 2010 Vienna party?

I bet you will be back in 2025 when the first release since Perhaps/The General is expected. (Atlas and reworked Oh My God) 😆

Because they want people to feel compelled to own the only medium the song is offered on.

Interesting how they have not shown The General yet, I would bet it has artwork on the other side of the sleeve. Thanks, Alex

The lack of CD and cassette physical media of Perhaps is interesting... Could they be planning a longer EP in November with the works? Perfect for Christmas.

Can someone please ask him if we will hear and Bucket or Robin on the official release of The General?

For some stupid reason, if The General ONLY gets a vinyl release, I'm sure someone has the proper equipment and knowledge to get a high quality rip from it, assuming it is indeed the best or highest quality method in hearing music, even over high-res and CD.

When Perhaps launched, the official Guns merch page incorrectly said it was a new song recorded by the current lineup in 2023. They later edited that out. So I wouldn't take any web page as gospel.

Imagine we figure out the song length is about 4 minutes. I'm hoping it's closer to 6, or even as long or longer than TWAT.

Guns N' Roses has 6 studio albums. I get it though, some Star Wars fans say there's only 6 movies, others say 3. Some say 9. Some count ALL of them.

If Hard Skool 2021 is a "hit" based on the inclusion of it, Better easily should have been there, or in it's place. I bet Perhaps wasn't ready by the time they pressed those records, otherwise I would imagine it would have been included over Hard Pass.

I'm not even sure if a better mix and master will help 2021 Hard Skool. My guess is they didn't make any changes to it. The whole song would need to be rearranged or restored to a previous version prior to NITL, with their additions more carefully brought into it, if at all. Terrible drums, dumb cowbell, mostly uninspired Slash guitars, etc. At least Absurd had the framework of Silkworms and fairly fitting new guitars, though poorly mixed and mastered. I hope future re-worked CD-era material is treated more like Perhaps was, or better yet, not touched at all by NITL members.

Maybe if it was the 2000 version. This I Love or Better should have been considered before Hard Skool 2021.

2021 Hard Skool doesn't belong on there. If anything, Perhaps should have been in place of it. No love of CD either, they should have popped Better on there, but I could see them doing the title track instead.

I really hope they add a Detroit show on this tour, maybe they can make a trip north after a rescheduled St. Louis show.

Interesting. I swear I heard them do The General intro once live, but my first Guns show was November 15, 2011 so maybe it was just me not remembering. I liked the Dexter intro as well.

Yeah, I don't see it working to use a 2-4 minute intro. I could see one minute, easily as they have done that, especially on CD. My best guess it we get a 1 min intro, a kickass track with orchestra up and down throughout the mix, then a 1 min cool down lap outro. I hope Slash plays how Robin/Bucket did on what we heard in the party clip, that was some nice guitar playing, and some which Slash should do well, if he wants.

They used The General intro for the 2011 shows, right? I swear I heard it in Chicago. Then in 2012 I think it was Dexter. Or maybe I have it backwards...