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26 minutes ago, Appetitefordiscussion said:

Is there any proof the lower octave on the perhaps chorus is from an older session? I wonder if that was new 

I can't hear it in the 2000 mix, but I've seen posts where people claim to hear it there. If it's there in the 2000 mix, it is certainly lower in the mix. I actually like the 2023 version more than the 2000, with one exception being most of Slash's solo. The last bits, the higher notes, fit the song but I don't think he did as good as Robin's solo. It's nice they kept a few seconds of Robin's solo. Weird they didn't just have Slash replicate that part and do a transition into his own solo. Would have been easier just to keep Robin in, and no one except us would know anyways. 

40 minutes ago, Rindmelon said:

I think there are probably more vocals than people think. A reason people often give for not thinking there are more vocals is that the released songs have the same vocals as the locker leaks ect. But why would he rerecord them if he was already happy with them? Doesn't mean he didn't record stuff from songs we haven't heard at all

I agree. I'm sure Axl works on recording new vocals, and overdubs, backing vocals, touch ups, etc. when he's laying down vocals in the studio. 

From the Village leaks, we know Axl later recorded vocals for Shackler's, Sorry, Better, and Scraped (which we didn't get any instrumental for then) and that suggests he has probably recorded vocals for additional songs, and we know that to be true with Monsters and The General. I'm certain there are others. As for how many, no one knows for sure but I would bet he has 6-12 additional songs with vocals that were not on the 2008 album or the NITL singles. 

23 minutes ago, rumandraisin said:

I'd put money on the last time Axl recording vocals for Guns as being 2007, that last session adding bits for Chinese. Described as him bouncing round from song to song. 

Aside from Rock the Rock of course, which I thought was great!

Tommy Stinson said Axl recorded vocals every year he was in the band. Tommy was in Guns from 1998 to 2014.

2 minutes ago, Rindmelon said:

It's a slippery slope man, i mean first you say Stinson, then you will be suggesting Bucket replace Angus, before you know it ACDC will be the 02 lineup of gnr and you will be in the crowd screaming Soul Monster surrounded by bemused ACDC fans

Oh yes, any band with Tommy, Axl, and Bucket would get my attention and money, unless they keep Frank on drums!  Just kidding, I'd still see them with Frank. 

Most of those songs are about Stephanie, I think. 

1999 should have been Oh My God, 2008 should have been Better, and 2019 should have been Hardschool (2000)  

31 minutes ago, DoMw94 said:

That's proof enough. She's in the damn band and is his closest collaborator! 😂

That's one way to say it!  

I've been listening to my Japanese Perhaps CD in my vehicle. It gets awfully boring fast, more so than the previous single because they at least had two live songs with the two singles.

It would have been better with Monsters, but Monsters is actually a good song, so maybe they want to feature it as a lead single for a future release with Atlas or something.

13 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

He didn't play on Hard Skool, that was Brain.

I don't think we got definitive proof of that, outside of Melissa's website saying Brain played on it. If it was Brain, they heavily processed the drums and sucked all the life out of them.

1 hour ago, DeNfr said:

Brain left in 2006 ("the fun of Axl and the attitude kind of went away") and Frank
is the official drummer since and played parts on the last album to officialize it.

There's a photo of the band from around 2009 with Brain in there. Maybe it was 2008. I don't think that particular tour happened though. this was before the Asian shows, when they were planning on having two drummers.

11 minutes ago, DeNfr said:

 

yeah it will change the dynamics between drums and bass and the whole sound.
no way they'll call Brain back or call another drummer it would be a real snub and insulting.

 

I suppose, but isn't Frank more or less a touring member? He was on some of CD, and possibly Hard Skool? Brain still hangs out with the band too, so you never know. Melissa could probably have him bang out a song or two.  

2012 - Detroit

2011 - Chicago

2021 - Detroit

2016 - Detroit

The best show I have ever seen was 2016 Axl/DC in The Palace of Auburn Hills. 

3 minutes ago, DeNfr said:

personally I will definitely complain about the absence of Matt Sorum 

Shoot, I hadn't thought about the drums. So if they actually write and record new material, it will probably have Frank on drums. Could they call in Brain?

8 minutes ago, alfa75 said:

Good point and I would like to agree with you, but I still think those comments would surface. A little like how some thought the BH Nightrain solo was much better than Slash's original, or Robin's rework of SCOM for Big Daddy was superior to the Slash original. 

But your point is valid.

Yeah, it's certainly an interesting thought. I believe the last time the band had any creative output of new material was the Bucket/Robin era. We have yet to be shown that not to be the case.

4 minutes ago, alfa75 said:

-It would have sounded SOOOO much better with BH and/or Finck.

If NITL actually writes and records new material, the Bucket and/or Finck argument wouldn't be valid, because those members were not involved in those songs.

It's only a valid point for a CD-era re-worked tune, of course. 

On 1/18/2024 at 3:23 AM, jamillos said:

Btw, did you know?
According to his FB conversation, he was one foot out the door as early as 2012. 

https://postimg.cc/

 

"but dont mad"  

29 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:

I disagree because Argentina was an instrumental when BBF presented it, meaning Axl would have to both write and record for it. With Amen Axl can just sing it. I'm sure he'll love any excuse to avoid songwriting.

Unless you're simply saying you doubt a new album will happen in general, in which case I agree completely.

I remember when Bumblefoot was playing that song, it was more than just an instrumental, it had some vocal melodies. This was before it was recorded and released. I wish GN'R recorded it, the raw version Bumble played was pretty good. I wasn't too fond of the final product, but I bet if Axl was on it and wrote most of the lyrics, it would be a pretty good Guns song for CD3 or whatever. 

35 minutes ago, Spoon87 said:

I could understand and appreciate some vocal distortion if it'd be one or two songs in a huge body of work, but as we're being dripfed so few songs and wish so much for more songs with Axls one of a kind voice, it's almost pissing me off that he chose to use this feature instead of letting is amazing voice shine.

The dripfed process is near agonizing. I suppose it could be worse. The closest thing we had to the 2008 album was the 2019 leaks. I wonder how many, if any of these singles will even end up on an album or some sort of bastardized complication. Almost all of the songs are not mixed in a fashion that are suitable for an album, at least not together without being remixed and remastered. 

30 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

When it was written it belonged to a huge body of work.

It's a damn shame we never got CD2. I hope, by some act of God or a fan crazier/more connected than me, we get it all leaked as it was in 2010 or whatever. I think that would be closure for a lot of people. The 2004-2014 CD2, remix album, and re-recorded AFD. That's what we need.  

23 minutes ago, Spoon87 said:

It could be a good song as there are some strong melodies in Axls singing and in the guitar work, but to my ears, it's all buried beneath that shitty production, coupled with the creative choice of heavily distorted vocals. That's something I really can't ignore, sadly. Still I find the "my only regret..." line stuck in my head again and again.

 

I understand and can appreciate some vocal distortion, when used appropriately. (Like in Perhaps, on one line, which is also present in the 2000 mix) but for The General, it makes the lyrics in places unintelligible. I only understand most of the song now, despite no official lyrics being published, based on unofficial lyrics and discussions here on what Ax is singing. 

Makes production on 1999 Oh My God seem good. 

I wonder how much better the 2010 (or whatever) mixes were of these songs were from a production standpoint. I would imagine better based on the 2008 album vs reheated leftovers of NITL.

I wonder if this video will get a Blu-ray release.

Just kidding! Don't want to give them any ideas.

1 hour ago, Alejandro GNR said:

I really think TG video is bad…not only for the animation itself, but its a mesa of imagery.

Its hard to understand whats happening. Is it only me?

No, it seems a majority of us dislike the video, including me. 

3 hours ago, PaoloLA said:

Never too late. Monsters is fantastic 

Yes but I think it was better as Soul Monster with Buckethead. 

2 minutes ago, Nick85 said:

All I have to say is that they really can’t release Monsters soon enough. 

14 years too late!