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23 minutes ago, Spoon87 said:

It could be a good song as there are some strong melodies in Axls singing and in the guitar work, but to my ears, it's all buried beneath that shitty production, coupled with the creative choice of heavily distorted vocals. That's something I really can't ignore, sadly. Still I find the "my only regret..." line stuck in my head again and again.

 

I understand and can appreciate some vocal distortion, when used appropriately. (Like in Perhaps, on one line, which is also present in the 2000 mix) but for The General, it makes the lyrics in places unintelligible. I only understand most of the song now, despite no official lyrics being published, based on unofficial lyrics and discussions here on what Ax is singing. 

Makes production on 1999 Oh My God seem good. 

I wonder how much better the 2010 (or whatever) mixes were of these songs were from a production standpoint. I would imagine better based on the 2008 album vs reheated leftovers of NITL.

I wonder if this video will get a Blu-ray release.

Just kidding! Don't want to give them any ideas.

1 hour ago, Alejandro GNR said:

I really think TG video is bad…not only for the animation itself, but its a mesa of imagery.

Its hard to understand whats happening. Is it only me?

No, it seems a majority of us dislike the video, including me. 

3 hours ago, PaoloLA said:

Never too late. Monsters is fantastic 

Yes but I think it was better as Soul Monster with Buckethead. 

2 minutes ago, Nick85 said:

All I have to say is that they really can’t release Monsters soon enough. 

14 years too late!

It was worse than I expected, and I had low expectations. 

The song that could have benefitted most from a lyric video, doesn't get one. Bummer.

At least Fernando isn't in it! 

14 hours ago, colonizedmind said:

Just wondering...do you like any Guns tracks prior to 1998?

Of course! Most of them. 

The lead guitar that Voodoochild wonderfully recreated, I swear on the 2010 leak, where it's hard to hear anything, that guitar bit starts again after the screaming Axl bridge. So I think that may not actually be a solo, but the main guitar lead of the song. 

31 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Thanks. I'm not sure if it's Robin or Bucket, though. 

Just listened to your upload, very nice work! That is what I hear as well.

I really believe the structure of the song was changed from the 2010 version to the Monsters that leaked. You can hear the "oooo oooo" Axl sounds fairly clearly in the 2010 party recording. In the 2023 Monsters leak those are backing vocals. You can also hear amazing guitars that are missing from the 2023 leak as well. I can play it in my head near perfectly. Wish I could play it IRL to share how it goes. 

1 hour ago, 2020_Intensions said:

I agree. What we've got are watered down, soul-less forms of these songs, but regardless, from a musical standpoint, save maybe Hardschool, I think every song on ChiDem is superior.

I think 2000 Hardschool is one of the better songs they have, and would fit CD as far as quality goes. 2021 Hard Skool, I honestly don't want that on any album. They butchered that song into a C tier tune. 

I think Perhaps and Hardschool from the CD era would have fit CD, Atlas too, though I find Atlas to be a weaker song. 

I think the CD era Monsters / Soul Monster would have been pretty good as well.

Zodiac 13 could be the Better of CD2 if they have a nice vocal track to it. 

34 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

None of the new songs hold a candle to anything on ChiDem ... 

I believe the CD-era mixes of CD2 songs would largely be superior to what we are getting officially. 

One example that can be realized is 2000 Hardschool (which was labeled as a rough mix) vs the 2021 officially released Hard Skool. Perhaps 2000 vs Perhaps 2023 is more interesting, as I like almost everything about the official release except most of Slash's solo. I wish they had Slash record a second solo to Robin's like with CD and TWAT, or better blended them. 

1 hour ago, Coma16 said:

Elvis is nearly 6 minutes. Dummy is over 6 minutes but that seems more like an outline/idea than a song.

How wild would it be if Me & My Elvis is named Soul Monster and Monsters is it's own song.  

51 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

In my opinion The General has the better chorus and this damn hot outro solo, even if it‘s too short.
Monsters has better verses and this freaking awesome bridge, the best I’ve heard Axl in a very long time. A nice outro solo as well. 
I think Monsters is the better song overall but The General includes Slash’s best reunion solo.

I agree. Overall I like Monsters a lot more over The General. Aside from poor production on both songs (especially The General), my main gripe with Monsters (aside from it not being a CD-era mix with Buckethead, of course) is the chorus seems to occur too quickly in the song. In other words, I wish the verses were a little longer. It almost feels rushed. But, that's me being nitpicky and probably comes from me expecting Soul Monster was a longer song that it actually was. 

I wonder if they have any longer songs (~6 minutes or longer) left in the can. Like the Sorry, Prostitute or There Was A Time of CD2 from a song length standpoint. 

Most, if not all the CD2 stuff we got (leaked or released) with vocals are around 4 minutes. 

Velvet Revolver and Slash's 2010 solo album had some cool music videos.

The VR video where Matt was lip syncing to Scott's vocals in a bit was cringe though. 

2 hours ago, BreakDown2014 said:

Imo Absurd sounds a lot better than Perhaps, being the only track without clipping issues along with Hardskool

I didn't notice any clipping in Perhaps. I would be surprised if Bob Ludwig would tolerate such a shit mix with clipping before he masters it, but I could be wrong. 

6 minutes ago, bmus1 said:

The General and Monsters will probably be next to each other sequentially if we ever get a release with all of these songs on it. That's as far as their connection goes.

If they do a compilation album of all the singles, or whatever I hope they at least remaster them to sound better next to one another. So far Perhaps seems to be the only one suitably mixed for an album. 

1 hour ago, colonizedmind said:

Every gang needs its joker in the pack...

I know, but I'm speaking of what we all want.  

CD2! Maybe they will correct the mix, or better yet, release the CD era version. 

2 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

It's been a while since I last heard Hard School from the Village, so I was kinda amazed about how great is that demo. Thankfully we have it to listen to. There's lead work throughout those last choruses, which kinda sounds messy, but at least is something more than simple pattern riffs in a already repetitive song. And I do like Slash's guitar in the song, is just that it could've been better IMO.

I like Slash's second part of his solo in 2021 Hard Skool. Aside from that, I miss just about everything from the 2000 mix. 

1 hour ago, Voodoochild said:

I'm not sure, the 2021 version doesn't sound like Bucket to me. At first I thought it was him, but his tapping wouldn't be just chromatic notes (meaning, just the note and the nearby note). The demo has a different pattern with his multiple finger tapping, going up and down with the notes, which does sound like Bucket. 

I appreciate your input on this. I agree, it sounds different from the demo, but inspired by it at least. I wish they just kept him in there, it's maddening to me how quick they are to spend time and money recreating parts that are already great, though that's how they have done things for a while to keep current members included, which is understandable. I suppose that bit is the least thing to worry about with the 2021 Hard Skool. (Drums, mixing, etc.)  

I wouldn't be such a bother here and elsewhere with the Bucket/Robin posts if the NITL mixes were better. Perhaps seems to be the anomaly so far, where it sounds good from a production standpoint, and I'd say overall better than the 2000 leak, and Robin's first few seconds of his solo being present was more than a present to me.  

In other words, if they take the new Slash, Duff, etc. bit and mix and master the songs properly, that would be acceptable. Instead, some of these songs just sound maddening. Hard Skool and The General seeming to suffer most. Absurd is as it is named, so it works for that one, and I actually enjoy Slash on that song.

3 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

No, I was talking about Monsters. The General is 100% Slash.

This. 

Richard is cool, but his lead is too much like Slash, but lesser. 

Yeah, I think I got more from his style than his tone. It's unmistakenly different than Slash's tone, that's for sure.

Interesting on The General, he shreds very well towards the end of that song. 

Do you believe the bit towards the end of Hard Skool before the chorus repeats is Richard as well? It sounds like Bucket in the 2000 mix. 

When I first heard The General the last bits of lead guitar sounded a lot like Bucket. I assume that is Richard. I wish we had notes for these songs like we do on CD so know for sure who plays what, who is on drums on Hard Skool, etc. And who mastered what. 

1 hour ago, Voodoochild said:

We already have this with Monster's outro solo, with Richard taking the lead after Slash. 

Is that really Richard there, or are you referring to the outro solo on The General?