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4 hours ago, Tom2112 said:
I find nothing within what I said to be lunacy. It's been said by countless classic artists how important certain producers were to their careers. I did not say that there was one rule for all, but I do stand by the position that producers can and quite often focus the record, move it away fro stodgy bloated sections and make it leaner or in other cases take something that's too bare bones and make it something completely off the wall but still fantastic, George Martin for example took The Beatles and helped them create he sound that has defined the last 50 plus years, without him those songs would have been quite different (Arrangement ideas, recording ideas etc.). You also mention Roy Thomas Baker obviously in reference to Chinese; well I love Chinese Democracy, I'm not saying I wish the record was different and that Bob had won over Axl... but I am saying that Bob Ezrin was sort of right! I like CD but look at the rest of the forum! the majority are divided on it and if polled there are probably 3 to 4 songs that everyone agrees on. Ezrin was probably suggesting that if Axl was after a hit record then he needed to rethink the record... The record sold well for 2008 but it was not a hit record and left most people on the fence as opposed to putting GnR back on the map.
And Like Diesel said both Roy Thomas Baker and Bob Ezrin have incredible careers, with hands in some of the most popular records in rock... so, I'm afraid while you can have that opinion I strongly disagree.
I agree that music is language and what feels good usually is good! but here's a case study for you Metallica: working with hard line producers Black Album, Death Magnetic. Working without a producer and just going with what feels good Lulu... if a producer stopped by those sessions I'd like to say they'd have tried to craft the songs a better and say "Lou! No! Bad Lou!" and the same thing to Metallica.
You also have to factor in Jimmy Iovine being a part of it and his own track record as a producer and engineer, but as far as the Interscope organization went in dealing with Axl, it sounded like they were part of the problem. We'll probably never know how Jimmy really felt about the album unless he writes a memoir. At the time he stood by it.....or did he really?
Lulu wasn't a conventional Metallica album and they weren't promoting it as one. A handful of Lou Reed fans & critics defended it because Lou's history and romance with the guitar, noise and feedback made sense to him working with Metallica. No different than Kurt Cobain doing guitar for William Burroughs' audiobook or any old & young(er) one off collaborations.
Metallica was in a better place as far as taking risks went, especially after they acquired the master tape rights, but then they decide to throw a ton of cash into making Through the Never (I doubt Axl spent a penny on Appetite for Democracy 3D).
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On 11/25/2016 at 3:58 AM, Majestic Beast said:
Why there are no videos of CD making,what they want to hide from the fans anyway?
Even back in AFD & UYI no one brought a video camera in (except Shannon Hoon, Marc said he never considered it), apart from "Patience", and Robert John's documentary didn't have studio footage.
Some bands don't want the worry of outside recording equipment esp. with a lot of money riding on it, but just about everybody sends files back and forth of what they're working on, and the studio's just a place to go polish it up. What you can do with a couple of laptops is amazing, and that's why so many studios have gone away, but there will be a few that never go away and find ways to generate revenue.
In the case of ChiDem - not just videos, there's almost no photos from the sessions. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but everything GNR used to promote ChiDem was from the stage. It's possible something exists but TB, Caram, Axl & Del would have to be the ones with the definitive answer, so far it's been "no" or "I don't remember".
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I think they all live in different countries, if GNR play Holland, Angus will probably be a special guest because he has a place there. Brian's insinuated he's been a hired gun for a while.
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It's interesting that Zakk has said it was a good time at a time when the band was imploding.
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GNR has enough time in between shows for Slash to promote and tour Conspirators material, but one of them pays way more than the other. Between Axl, Slash, Duff (and maybe Izzy, but if not, so be it), there's a ton of unreleased songs and riffs.
Myles has plenty to keep him busy.
Deluxe for AFD, Lies, UYI only because a lot of artists are remastering the back catalog for digital music stores and the deluxe editions are usually a byproduct of it.
If GNR do a group interview, it won't be on Howard Stern unless they're going to have a special radio channel and put the archive tapes out - it'll probably be on Kimmel (where they could actually play ON the streets of Hollywood!) or Jimmy Fallon. I could see Chris Jericho interviewing Slash, Duff and Axl together for his podcast or maybe Nikki Sixx's show.
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I heard the Damned 40th anniversary shows were clocking in at 3 hours.
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The time they grew up in, being young & cocky, and their circle of friends influenced AFD, but rock was a bigger part of pop culture at the time, and things were far less politically correct.
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In Cold Blood demystified him a bit where it wasn't all about the fighting and being strung out, I could see why a biopic's being made. Adrien Brody would probably be my pick even if he's a little too old to play someone in their teens (although you have CGI, makeup, camera filters smoothing lines out), but most of the NY Dolls stuff up to the early 90s, I don't see why not.
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On 11/4/2016 at 9:52 AM, scooby845 said:
How can ONE NEVER meets Axl Rose???
Considering how much partying Ozzy did in LA in the mid-late 80s it is kind of a surprise, but Axl doesn't seem like the type to go up and introduce himself either.
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They've become more "fan friendly" post Napster and the best thing to come out of St Anger was Some Kind of Monster, who are a far cry from the Black Album documentary. Metallica own their masters so now anything back catalog is all money in their pockets. Not sure when GNR get those rights so they can do a Deluxe Appetite esp. if Axl's had his contract renegotiated multiple times.
As far as nostalgia goes, they just released 2 Deluxe Editions of Kill Em All and Ride the Lightning, they did a 30th anniversary residency bringing former members back on stage with them. Supposedly we'll get the "And Justice For Bass" mix when AJFA Deluxe comes out.
Keep in mind the Big 4 tour was heavily back catalog and 2 DM songs, plus they brought Mustaine out which is no different than Adler coming out with GNR.
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The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
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6 hours ago, Powerage5 said:
Went and saw Time Stand Still tonight, and it was good - not sure I'd say it was great.
For starters, it isn't really what it was advertised as, that being a documentary about the R40 tour. Technically it is, yes, but in reality there is very little content about the tour; the only shows mentioned at all were Tulsa, Toronto, and LA, and the names of a few other dates flashed across the screen throughout. The documentary was more about the fans, and how to accept that something is coming to an end (Which, without 100% outright saying it, it's made fairly clear that this is indeed the end at least in terms of a live band). I'd have liked to see more content about the tour itself - stories from the road, mentioning the Ben Mink/Jonathan Dinklage guest spots, etc.
Beyond that, there wasn't really a clear narrative throughout - it felt sort of pieced together. There was an unnecessary 15-20 minute segment at the beginning about the band in the 70's, and while it had some good anecdotes, it felt out of place. Then, as soon as they'd get the ball rolling, they'd veer off and talk about one particular fan for five minutes. It just felt very...disjointed.
I will say for it that it captured the emotional impact of this tour extremely well, both for the band and the fans. All in all I liked it well enough, but I thought Beyond The Lighted Stage was a better crafted film.
There was a documentary called "Springsteen and I" that was about the fans of Bruce.
The promo said "backstage and behind the scenes for the first time ever" but what about Rush in Rio??
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A lot of bands don't interact on stage but people picked up on moments of eye contact and laughs on this tour.
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26 minutes ago, Changes said:
I thought I read about some connection between Sharon and Axl during the "lost years". Strange that he never met Ozzy then.
When DJ told the story of how he met Axl, maybe he was considering nuGuns doing Ozzfest and talking business with Sharon Osbourne and Geezer's wife Gloria Butler, who was also a part of the management team.
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Keep in mind what happened to Van Halen when they did the second and third tours - the interest dropped off in a big way, even with having a new album out, but the past two tours had them digging deep into the back catalog, and just like GNR there's not a massive back catalog.
The only thing "new" is Slash and Duff doing the ChiDem songs, but Slash has put an interesting spin on songs that people thought you HAD to have 3 lead guitarists for. Keep in mind if some of the fans are bored with hearing the songs, how do you think the band members feel after 3 months of rehearsing them over and over, even if they've played them thousands of times? The audience reaction is the only thing that keeps GNR going, thankfully they booked Vegas and Mexico around Coachella, because the interest at Coachella seemed pretty chilly and meh, but those two shows also played into covering the expenses of rehearsals prior to that.
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It's amazing Slash and Duff were able to maintain their partnership in GNR, but it has more to do with the back catalog and "vintage" logos. I wonder if the AFD5 were in the studio at the same time during the rehearsals.
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That was probably in between Ozzy and King Kobra for Carmine... so he prob. had a lot of time on his hands collecting "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" royalties....
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"The relationship I had with Matt became horrendous. He and I had come close to fist-fights so many times that it’s ridiculous. He has an attitude with lead singers. It’s a problem he had before Revolver – in Guns N’ Roses and The Cult. And, who knows, maybe even before that. Slash and I have always been able to maintain, except on a few occasions, a professional relationship. Duff and I have usually been close. Then everything started to erode. I couldn’t believe I was in this situation where I was getting ostracised by people who had been in the same fucking situation that I was in."
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On 10/22/2016 at 9:37 AM, Len Cnut said:
I'll have to have a listen. I quite like Lenoard Cohen. Walked out of one of his gigs once, at the 02 Arena, i was way too pissed to sit down and it was a seated gig.
Those shows were clocking in at 3 hours and remember getting restless 2 hours in.
I think Everybody Knows was part of the tape mix before all the UYI shows, but Concrete Blonde's cover was better known at the time.
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Hard to say if they'll release a video, but we'll probably get a live album from this tour.
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I wanted them to do a Smallville meets James Bond series, but Bond had already done a bunch of years in the Royal Navy when he became a Double 0, so you kind of wonder what was going on in between 16 to 36 and how he got roped into spy work.