allwaystired

1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

I don't agree that Axl doesn't care. There's been effort from him behind these releases but it's not "recognizable" or gets overlooked, because it's more about non-creative aspects.  Although we don't know the details, based on the credits it seems that Axl has bought the master recordings of the songs from the label, and that the re-recording and production have been paid for by GN'R (not the label). He wouldn't have done this if he didn't care, would he?

As for how they sound, he has signed them as co-producer, so he's responsible for it. I don't know, maybe he thought that's how they should sound in terms of "modern" production aimed mainly at streaming services.

Well I think he's always wanted 'control' so it would make sense that he bought the masters- that's a move totally in keeping with what we know of Axl from the past. That he's in charge of everything. 

I can't fathom why someone who cared so much would let those production issues go through. It's so weird. 

My best guess is these songs are getting released because of pressure from Slash and Duff, who are probably a bit embarrassed about the lack of music and sick of having people ask them about it in interviews. I'd wager musician friends of theirs in other bands ask a lot too. 

If Axl cared about these songs he wouldn't have allowed them to come out so badly mixed and produced. The impression that comes across is that he couldn't give a shit about how they sound. 

53 minutes ago, RnRHOFGNR said:

I can understand this point of view but they need to make money and put food on the table for the family.  Also yeah they think everything will just end up on ebay so they are just giving fans the money when the artist could be the one making the money instead.

Its just the modern world these days isnt it money makes the world go around and to be honest if my signature could make me money I would want to monetise it so you buy meet n greets to get signatures.  Its similar to wrestlers in their world they too are reluctant to sign random things in random situations.

Yeah, it's the modern world. 

I don't like it though, that everything has to be monetised and I'm a bit old school/old fashioned in terms of rock and roll being about the underdog, the poor kid and it not favouring the rich. I don't like the idea of some kid not even being able to meet someone in the street and get a signature. 

On that note....met Bruce Dickinson last week and he was super pleasant, chatty and down to earth. 

16 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

If Axl needs to put out the Chinese leftovers for whatever reason despite it's more than questionable quality...at least put the rest of it out at once, and soon. 

Yeah I'd agree with that. I have no issue at all with the Chinese leftovers getting dusted down and released- but just do it.

I don't see what possible advantage there is to sitting on them for months and months then releasing one song before killing the momentum again for another long period of time. 

If they came as an album, 10 or so songs, properly released and promoted, it would have far more impact. 

4 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

...because then they'd be free to do their own projects?

Yep, more of them. 

It feels like Axl is an utterly spent force now and all this activity just highlights that for me, which seems so sad. 

4 hours ago, jekylhyde said:

I'm always eager to hear new Guns N' Roses songs, but after hearing how organic and lively Duff's new album and Slash's new blues stuff sound, I'm not that excited to hear those Nu-Guns -era songs anymore. They're cool compositions and nice things to have, but they do sound kind of stale in comparison to examples mentioned above.

I agree totally. 

Seeing them all so active and engaged in music has really highlighted to me how stale it all is with GNR currently and how, even though I thought i'd never say it, they might be better off without Axl and GNR now. 

Why wouldn't he sign stuff? 

Seems a bit miserable, when you've got a fan stood in front of you, not to do that? 

His choice of course, and he's not obliged to.....but stuff like that I just don't understand. 

2 hours ago, ToonGuns said:

Seems like it. Or maybe he did AFD and UYI at the same time? He has a podcast with his No-Man band partner and they recorded a trail for it in instagram - in the trail he said how remixing AFD got him into Guns N Roses and he now really likes the album, but the band rejected Atmos outright.

Good to know thanks!

You'd have thought the AFD mix would have been done at the time of the box set release though, for inclusion with that? My guess is it would have been intended to go on the Blu-Ray disc in that. 

4 hours ago, Chuerta86 said:

 

Perhaps, pure speculation and wishful thinking about they could pull off going back to Slash repertoire.

The Snakepit albums and stuff like Bad Obsession and Locomotive are very bluesy driven and I'm sure some people will want/expect some GnR.

I'm sure there will be some rocking stuff Repertoire. Doubt it will be only the new album that they play.

 

We'll get a better idea of the direction after he releases a 2nd single. It seem like a good chance to go all balls out without the GnR staples and SMKC on his back. 

Personally, I can't see it, looking at the band and the other acts on. 

I don't think people want/expect GNR really- they don't get it with SMKC especially (he does one GNR song) and this does seem to be going down a very different route.

If people want GNR or SMKC, those things are out there touring frequently so I'd imagine he's going to see this as a chance to move away from all that stuff entirely.

Will be interesting to see what he does, for sure though! I'm wondering if with the whole 'festival' thing Slash's set may be shorter than it would be regularly. 

Envious of people getting to go to this! 

That's genuinely the first I've heard of this.

So he did AFD and they decided to ditch it, then they got him back for UYI and did exactly the same? That's utterly bonkers. 

I read Wilson saying that he was baffled by them rejecting UYI but that they paid him and that's all he knew of the matter. 

4 minutes ago, Chuerta86 said:

Got ticket for The Greek! This is the day after my birthday. 

Kind of wish I would have waited a bit for the vinyl, now I got two signed. 

So stoked! I wonder if we will get more Snakepit stuff Jazz Da Pit, Good 2 B Alive, Beggars, Serial Killer, Life Sweet Drug, Been There Lately are some stuff I'm hoping to hear or even some obscure GnR. Would love Back Off Bitch, Bad Obsession, Locomotive, Shotgun Blues (?)

Of course the new album in its entirely, hopefully some Slash solo, would love to hear We Are All Going to Die.

Not all entirely blues, but hoping for some rocking stuff as well. 

So stoked about no Wichita Lineman, Live and Let Die, KOHD, and Rocket Queen (fingers crossed)!!!

Isn't it a blues show, based on his new album? I can't see him playing any of that stuff really....

1 hour ago, Free Bird said:

Holy moly I’m jealous you bastards. While we were speculating about if he’s gonna be the opening act for someone, he just decided to be the main act on his own festivals throughout the States. Nice move Slash. 
Of course this raises hope for something similar during the european shows, but I can’t imagine that. Still curious what those will be like.

Is he definitely going to do Europe? I can see this being a short US run and that's it. 

I mean, in terms of someone to be around on a personal level, then obviously older Axl. 

Seeing as that's not something that is an issue then younger Axl. The one that released music, put on wild live shows and was full of fire. That's what made me a fan. 

7 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

After The General I really doubt there's anything worth hearing left to leak. 

 

Coma with Adler is one I'd still like. Maybe some high quality live stuff from the 2001/2002 era too. 

Something to keep us all interested for a bit would be great. 

Someone needs to leak something asap. 

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

I think so as well,  VR has such a negative vibe all around, I guess  it's not inspiring to the guys in any way anymore.

Does it? I thought they were all on decent enough terms with each other? Obviously the Scott Weiland thing casts a shadow, but I can honestly see them doing VR again in some form. 

Hell, bring in Fortus, Dizzy and Melissa as well! That might give Axl a kick up the arse.

Putting Velvet Revolver back together with different singers might be a good option at this stage too. 

Would free them up to make music together and I'd certainly like to hear what they did. 

13 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

Slash's latest releases, the guest spot with the Dandy Warhols and now the Killing Time cover with the album to be released in May made me think.

I really love those tracks and Slash's playing on both songs are just as good as anything from back in the day.

I haven't felt that kind of excitment for the man's work in a long time.

I really dislike SMKC at this point because it's super boring and uninspired to my ears and the GnR approach with these Chinese leftovers is just a collosal failure in my opinion.

So, I really hope Slash keeps on doing new and different things from here on out and doesn't waste too much time with his established bands.

Anybody agree?

 

I like SMKC so I'm happy if he goes down that route again, but yeah, otherwise I agree with you. Different and new is good and he seems to want to do that.

Just now, Stay.Of.Execution said:

"Amen"

Yep, definitely missed that one! Do you remember when it was said? 

Just now, Blackstar said:

I have explained my reasoning a little above on this page:

In other words, the fact that Duff's recent answers are less vague than before (he has even mentioned a song by name) means that there's something a bit more concrete compared to before. However, that doesn't mean that it will materialize - it's still too far from that.

What was the title he mentioned? I must have totally missed that......

2 hours ago, Rovim said:

another very good example of what I was talking about... where in any of my posts did I say that I think a new album is imminent? you've made this exact same comment in the past.

and no, cynicism is not the only way to "handle" or to cope with Axl rarely releasing Gn'R music. that's ridiculous. 

why would Duff say that we'll get the answer to the question of the release of more material if he knew in absolute certainty that nothing was coming? it makes no sense.

I'd say that lowering your expectations and taking everything with a grain of salt is a good approach without making this shit a big deal. at least it's better compared to whatever you're doing which involves ignoring what people are actually posting, including myself, but you do you thing, I was hoping you'll see what I was talking about and maybe take the shitposting down a notch. sometimes it seems that even attempting to be objective is not something you're interested in. just blaming Axl for being himself and not accepting Gn'R for what it is. (not a prolific band)

good luck to you in your search of self awareness and have a wonderful day.

 

Can't be bothered to read all that. 

Block me if my posts bother you. 

Enjoy the new album. 

1 hour ago, Rovim said:

sure, it's obvious that the answer is not that, but that particular poster likes to spin shit in a negative way on pretty much every chance he gets, often ignoring what was actually said. (no offense @allwaystired, I've just noticed you doing this shit for years now)

Sure. 

I'll happily continue to pay zero credence to vague comments about a new album until it actually happens. 

Others are more than welcome to get excited by these sorts of comments, as they have been since 2008.

Cynicism is the only rational way to handle vague mentions of a new album, alongside waiting/hoping to be proved wrong.

I'm not sure there's been any 'negative spin' needed in the past 16 years. There hasn't been a new album and it's highly possible there won't be one in the next 16. 

Good luck to you though if you think this means a new album is imminent. 

1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

It's not as vague as ever compared to how Duff has answered this kind of questions before, e.g. "But the fun part and the cool part about Guns N' Roses is we don't really talk about it, and what happens next just happens. It's never been that band that there's a direct schedule of how we do things.", "It's the logical thing to do", "(paraphrasing) In typical GN'R fashion I'll keep the mystique, when it happens, it happens", etc.

Obviously the answer is not "nothing is happening", since Duff said "there's things that have happened and more things to happen."

I mean, time is going to tell, but it hardly seems to be systems go on a new album does it? 

I don't know- we just hear comments of this type year after year, and this doesn't seem any different to me.

11 hours ago, Blackstar said:

I didn't expect anything more than a vague answer, but it was less vague than I would have thought.

I think that's as vague as ever! 

It's funny though as if the answer to the question is "nothing is happening" then how soon do we get that answer?! 

The wait for nothing is always infinite!