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21 minutes ago, guitarpatch said:

Dont think there was a limit. They should have absolutely done that though. It was gone within a hour from the 10am EST launch (the site was also live around 10 mins before the announcement) 

Also my order confirmation says signed in the description. Got one of each  

Yeah ridiculous if there wasn't a limit. Just playing right into the hands of profiteers. 

I can see more popping up at some point though, so I'll keep an eye out. 

58 minutes ago, Bitchisback said:

I saw the email like 40 mins after they went for sale and they were gone already 

Yeah same.

Was there a limit on how many you can buy? I hope so as otherwise I reckon people have bought them up in bulk. 

Ah damn, missed the email and looks like the signed CDs have gone now? 

Bet someone bought a load to put on eBay too.....

Looks good! 

When you look at all those guests/collaborators it seems astonishing if he couldn't get Axl to do anything......

Fucking hell. Bring back Pele, all is forgiven.....

1 hour ago, Staceyfuchs said:

Wow I know there is freedom of speech and this forum is for thoughts and comments which is cool that this exists,  however has any of you heard of having some class and having loyalty. The ways you all talk about Axl on here is just fucked up. Personally. I don’t care what she says he did   If he Denys it then I fully believe him. You’re supposed to be his fans   Have his back throw this scag that the sharks.  It doesn’t matter if he’s wrong or rite defend him anyways. 

I think you probably need some sleep. 

Not heard the word 'scag' used in a while though, so that gave me a chuckle. 

Seriously though, are you ok?! 

18 minutes ago, gunsnchalupas said:

Hey "always tired," no AI involved here! Just some creative fan speculation. 🤘 And speaking of Guns N' Roses, here are 5 reasons they're still rocking in 2023:

 

Timeless Anthems: Hits like "Sweet Child o' Mine" and "November Rain" continue to captivate new generations.

Iconic Lineup: The classic Axl, Slash, and Duff combo is back, bringing that authentic GNR energy.

Electric Live Shows: Their concerts are legendary – a raw, high-energy experience that fans crave.

Enduring Influence: Countless bands cite GNR as a major influence, showcasing their lasting impact on rock.

Axl's Vocals: Despite the years, Axl's distinctive voice remains a force, ensuring the GNR sound lives on. 🎸

He looks nothing like Slash, it wouldn't work..

I think you should hand it over to AI. It might make more sense. 

24 minutes ago, Spoon87 said:

Same, to be honest.

Sad but true. 

Especially with Slash on your, everyone doing their own stuff. Nothing is happening. 

4 minutes ago, Spoon87 said:

I'm sure the new album is coming along just great. Can't wait.

I'm sure it isn't even being worked on. 

Is AI coming up with this shit? 

1 hour ago, Rovim said:

nowdays, every big and older band that called it quits or pretended or thought it was the end, made it known on social media. while it's a case by case basis cause every band is different, I think that riding into the sunset without letting the fans officially know means that you can't sell a tour as the last ever tour and shit may anyway come out in interviews asking band members where did Gn'R go, but with Axl, you never know.

 

It would be a very GNR thing to do- just fading away like that, so I could see it happening! 

1 hour ago, Rovim said:

maybe it feels that way cause they're just on a break. my guess is there is no way they're going away for that long cause I think that now is the time to make the most money while Axl can still do it. I'm not talking about how well he can sing nowdays compared to other bands or his younger self, but Gn'R is not like AC/DC for example, they don't go away for too long, at least not with Slash in the band.

they sell nosalgia, not musical progress and enough people still want to see them and even if that reduces in numbers, there are always markets outside the U.S. who can't get enough Gn'R it seems.

All very true. 

I'm sure they'll probably be back touring again before we know it.....but I also think we'll never actually know when the band are done. It'll just be a break that never ends.

I sometimes wonder if we're in the 'fade away' era now. 

I can see the band just quietly vanishing at this stage. Obviously there's the money factor, which will probably come into play and they'll tour again, but it seems things have come to a halt with no plans, no recording of new music etc. 

When would be the next demand for them to tour on a large-scale? Got to be at least 2 or 3 years. I can see the band just slipping away at this point for a lot longer than that. 

Coma would be a fantastic add to the set. I'd love to hear that Adler version. 

2 hours ago, JimiRose said:

I wander if Axl speaks to paul tobias or ashba. They were people he seemed genuinely close to and friends with during their period and vouched for. Yet as soon as each left the band it seemed like the friendhsip did too. Axl is supposedly fiercely loyal but doesn't seem that way in reality 

Impossible to know really. I get the impression socialising isn't high on his list of activities, so if there's no professional contact, they're probably simply former colleagues, like ones you got along with when you worked with them, but just don't really have any contact with anymore. 

I don't remember there being any ill feeling when Ashba left.

1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

You know that would be a great show.

To be honest, I would love it yeah.....but I can't see most people racing off to get tickets to hear Ashba okay unreleased material when they want AFD! 

29 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

The AFD 5 show should be in Las Vegas, NV.

Welcome To The Jungle

It's So Easy

Mr. Brownstone

Nightrain

Chinese Democracy

Absurd

Civil War

November Rain

My Michelle (Guest: Sebastion Bach)

This I Love (Guest: DJ Ashba)

Ballad Of Death (Guest: DJ Ashba)

Hard Skool

Back In Black

Coma

Perhaps

Pretty Tied Up

Sympathy For The Devil (Guest: Paul Tobias)

Thunderstruck

Monsters

Paradise City

 

 

I think you need to cut down on whatever it is you're taking. This is bonkers. 

12 hours ago, evilfacelessturtle said:

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Perfect Crime yet. It was supposedly written during the AFD era. I'd like to hear Steven on it.

... so you're saying if we can crowdfund a big enough bribe, Axl will write new material?

Possibly! Haha! 

I do remember years ago when GNR wer doing private gigs for people's birthdays and things, there was suggestion of how much we'd all need to put in to get our own private GNR gig! 

It was sort of jokey, but would have been interesting if whoever suggested it had really pursued it! 

14 hours ago, kiwiguns said:

Not sure we're you have been hiding, but the music industry and artists make money from touring, not selling albums or via streaming services. 

Guns N Roses have no control over the music industry and we're the revenue lies via supply and demand. 

The supply and demand from the paying public is in buying tickets to watch an artist's live performance, not going to a record store to buy a record or CD. 

I cannot understand, why people as yourself take issue with the money the band is making, when they are simply following a change in the way the music industry operates today.. 

The people that control the music industry today, are the likes of Live Nation,Danny Wimmer Presents and other concert promotors around the world including those who promote music festivals. 

They are offering guaranteed income to the artists. The artist gets paid regardless of how many tickets are sold and the promotor takes the financial risk and covers all the costs. 

Universal Music, Sony Music and Warner Music aren't the power brokers of the music industry anymore.. 

They aren't going to sign artists up to multi million dollar record label deals because they won't get a return on that investment via album sales like they once did in the past. 

The artists aren't making money from album sales, so they are making money from preforming live to provide for themselves and their families. 

Why wouldn't the band go were the money is?. 

It seems stupid not to... 

Do you honestly think in today's music industry, Universal Music are going to pay Guns N Roses to occupy studios, have producers, techs, engineers and band members on retainer to sit around for years recording music like they did during the making of Chinese Democracy. 

 

 

 

Pretty sure this is trolling, based on a deliberate twisting of what I actually said (i.e. I said zero of the things you're defending other than that GNR's primary motive is money.....which it is.)

Not interested in the familiar debate about how apparently nobody makes money from music anymore, which will go round and round along familiar grounds with many people pointing out the vast amount of bands who do indeed seem to still make music. 

I think we're all fully aware of how the music industry works. 

5 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Well, of course it all ultimately stems from the fact that GN'R has had very little output, I'm not denying that. I'm also not denying that people may genuinely like a leaked version more for various reasons, myself included (for example, I think that the leaked versions of Cather in the Rye, The Blues and CD title track, which were pretty much finished songs in 2000, were superior than the final versions).

But I was specifically talking about leaks Vs. official releases of the same songs a while later. And there I think that the sense of enjoyment at the thought of hearing something against GN'R's will, which feels like taking something away from the band, is part of the reason for some people's preference of the leaks. Take Hard School/Hard Skool, for example, and how overwhelmingly positively the leak was received as opposed to many fans' disdain for the released version.  And whatever flaws the released version may have (the drums, the mix, the school bell, etc.) just don't justify the extent of the disdain for it.

It also probably leans that way because the leaks are fresh and exciting when they come......when you hear an official version a few years down the line of one song, it's difficult for it to be that exciting.

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14 hours ago, Draguns said:

Thinking about this further, it really s!cked for the band that the songs leaked. I was like everyone else listening to the leak. It's clear now as to why GNR didn't want those songs to be leaked.  Those songs simply weren't ready to be heard. They needed work. 

Nah, the more leaks the better. 

We could do with some leaks now I think- just get some more stuff out there. They don't want to commercially release this stuff, so it might as well get out there for people to hear if they want to as rot away unheard. 

I'm very much against piracy but the leaks have been nothing but positive for GNR fans in the absence of anything else going on. 

27 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

Tbh i doubt promoters give a shit. tickets will sell regardless. maybe not to the same extent without a new big hit, but GnR aren't going to release and promote a big hit so wouldn't matter. US now will be arenas, i think in major european cities they'll still play stadiums. Arenas everywhere else. Then again maybe half empty stadium is financially better than 2 arenas. 

Didnt motley and Def leppard play wembley stadium to like 28k in a 90k capacity? Costs of hiring stadium for one night was less than arena for 2? Pics were crazy https://twitter.com/JonathanDean_/status/1676572412148604931?lang=en

 

That Motley Crue thing was mad. I bet they still made large profits with it though. 

In regards to the promoter's thing- in some ways they don't give a shit, but they also like a 'hook' to sell tickets on. 

As we've said though- as long as people are still buying I suppose the promoter's demands will be lower.  

46 minutes ago, Rovim said:

do promoters really give a shit about new material? idk. what I'm mainly driving at is that as far as speculation goes, I think Axl cares very much about the legacy of Gn'R and that is naturally tied to the Gn'R catalog. with Slash and Duff back in the band, he will need to present at least some new material that will be a part of the meat of a potential final Gn'R album, and I think Axl got the time to make that a reality, if he's still interested. with Slash and Duff it can be done imo. what's stopping Axl from releasing an album with some reworked 90's ideas and new material 8 years from now? there is a lot that can be done in a studio with that kind of time. just thoughts.

I think the key point there is "if he's still interested". 

It could be done, for sure. Slash and Duff would do it in a heartbeat. 

2 minutes ago, Rovim said:

soon is not the word, a definite maybe.

I would imagine any offers from promoters to tour now might come with caveats based on 'something new to promote' so that could stir the pot. I do think it's likely that's why we got Perhaps etc. 

Of course, dusting down old unused CD stuff ticks that box, and an AFD tour would do too in the eyes of promoters looking for a selling point. 

Having said that if course, tickets (especially outside of the US) seem to sell ok anyway....