Lelex95

i feel the opposite actually, getting "new music" made me want more and more. im still hoping we get monsters, atlas and state of grace released and id love a wichita lineman studio release. most of all i want to see what type of music would come out this formation, my dream would be a blues and country inspired album.

I’d love that

I think it kind of is. Obviously having all good would have been better but I think we would feel even more annoyed if the video was great.

What’s wrong with monsters now?

I really don’t get the reaction of the forum. most of us hated the song before the video came out and now are shitting on it, what did we expect for the video to save the song? The general is the song I like the least among the new stuff, but I don’t hate it and although the video is cheap there are some cool elements like the members getting an avatar in the video which kind of gives me AFD cover vibe( please take this with a pinch of salt). got a question, did we really won’t a very good video for a song they didn’t even bother mastering well? Immagine having a song with the sound quality of a demo, the saddest cover art for the digital release and a majestic music video.

I don’t know, most of those who commented positively have the top member badge, if they were bot made to comment on this video they would have the badge. It’s probably just some fans that actually enjoy it.

I agree with you but I think you’re contradicting yourself a bit, on one hand you understand it’s a throw away song but you think they could invest in serious animation. Well if the song it’s a throw out it makes senso not to waste too much money on it.

I got a Chinese democracy II compilation with the four singles monsters, atlas, state of grace, oh my god and a good version of whichita lineman

To me the general sounds like a song from Korn coming off issues or maybe take a look in the mirror, specially the verse and pre-chorus while the verse kind of sounds like muse, it reminds me of songs like micro cuts.

Does anybody have the new corn shucker?

So, I got my copy finally and it’s the shitty with all the pixels. to be honest i still can’t wrap my mind around how a such a successful band does something so bad and silly.

Dude musical form- music format as I explained earlier I’m not an English mother tongue, I studied composition in England seven years ago, came back to my country and hardly spoke about music in English ever since. Genre obviously gives information about period, a jazz song cannot predate the 20th century, wouldn’t you agree? Regarding the instrumentation I didn’t say it always does, I said it does sometimes. a string quartet is always four string players. a piano concert is always piano and orchestra. despite my poor ability to explain my self, my initial point was that ballads, rockers and acoustics are all common form of rock music. you call a song a rock ballad, and acoustic rock song. take any given rock band, they probably have rockers, ballads and acoustic songs in their repertoire. going from sleaze metal to industrial isn’t the same as going from welcome to the jungle to don’t cry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballad again it’s not a difficult information to find. if you look for ballads it explains how despite not having a fixed structure it’s a musical form. I dont think you should have read my mind, I think that if you knew what you were talking about we wouldn’t have had this discussion to begin with. This is not a matter of opinion, this are definition and therefore matter of knowledge, you either know or you don’t. “While ballads have no prescribed structure and may vary in their number of lines and stanzas, many ballads employ quatrains with ABCB or ABAB rhyme schemes, the key being a rhymed second and fourth line. Contrary to a popular conception, it is rare if not unheard-of for a ballad to contain exactly 13 lines. Additionally, couplets rarely appear in ballads. Many ballads were written and sold as single-sheet broadsides. The form was often used by poets and composers from the 18th century onwards to produce lyrical ballads. In the later 19th century, the term took on the meaning of a slow form of popular love song and is often used for any love song, particularly the sentimental ballad of pop or rock music, although the term is also associated with the concept of a stylized storytelling song or poem, particularly when used as a title for other media such as a film.”

They did debut all of them live tho, I can’t remember if perhaps came out in platforms before the live debut.

I wouldn’t be so optimistic, they will probably release it a months into the next tour I’m afraid. I hope I’m wrong.

Sorry, English isn’t my first language. I meant musical form. Musical form is about structure of the composition, you might think of a ballad but more classical examples are minuet or concert. Genre tells you more about the period and cultural aspect of a certain group of composition. Genre can give information such as instrumentation, rock is generally made by drums guitars and bass with vocal, but that isn’t fixed, while musical form sometimes is for example a string quartet is always 4 strings players performing a piece. this is very easy information to find, just look for music genre on wiki, the first thing it says is “genre isn’t to be confused with musical form”. I might ha used the wrong term, but if you had any idea of what you were talking about you would have easily understood my point. The fact that you don’t know things doesn’t mean people make them up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_genre just out of curiosity, what band belongs to the ballad genre? 😂

Is not about being entitled, to me is just part of the conversation. what do we have forums for? its the whole porpoise of being here, negativity is a bit annoying but imagine from the prospective of somebody that finds it awful and embarrassing, they might find your positivity annoying. They might think its self deceit and delusion.

I like it but if people don’t let them complaint, it’s part of the process too.

It is a meaningful distinction by any means. a format can be common across different genre, knowing a song is a ballad gives you certain informations about it, knowing a song is a punk song gives some completely different one. the comment I responded too suggested that guns n roses fans are used to variety of genre cause they are used to variety of formats which makes no sense. If you like rock you are used to rockers, ballads and acoustic songs, it doesn’t mean you like punk or nu-metal. you conflate format and genre all over in your comment and I’m sorry it’s not subjective.

Oh if we are talking about the latest releases I agree, there are good reasons not to like them.

Well so is not that you don’t like them because it’s not afd, you don’t like them cause they don’t sound like they did in afd. There are solos in Chinese democracy, what do you even mean they’re not classic? That it’s not just pentatonics and bandings? there are riffs, not in every song and honestly it’s a blessing, not all the songs need a minute long guitar riff. There is nothing bad in saying “I don’t like them because it’s not what they did when I felt in love with them” I’m not even saying it’s your case, but it in a lot of cases and it shows in the comments and the complaints honestly.

Exactly, that’s why I think it’s safe to say that at least two more are coming, but I think 4 makes more sense. atlas and monsters are the two that sounds better and to me more complete, I don’t understand why they aren’t out already. state of grace isn’t as polished but we must assume the version we got isn’t the only one existing, we didn’t get the same version of perhaps we had and I don’t think it was recorded recently. I hope it’s atlas monsters first and state of grace and maybe after a while. If they tour again soon I bet they gonna do the same thing they did with the other singles.

Exactly I used not to like Chinese democracy and than I got into korn and numetal and now I think cd is as good as their other stuff if not better in some aspects. the general has issues but I think it’s a good song and probably if he came out in the right period of time would have been appreciated even more. You wish axl went solo, I wish he stayed active with nu-gnr and that they really tried with the new direction.

Rockers, ballads and acoustics are formats of songs punk is a genre. I don’t mean to be an ass, what I’m saying is that a rock band that plays rockers, ballads and acoustics isn’t much of a variety. Afd had some punk influences but you can’t really count that as them playing punk really. didnt gnr get backlash for uyi being somewhat more orchestral and complex in terms of instrumentation than the previous stuff? I mean Chinese democracy is honestly a great album and most of the fans still think it’s shit cause slash isn’t on it.

I think it’s safe to say that at least two more are coming, slash talked about 4-6 and we got 4 so far. we know more exist so it could be another 4 which I honestly hope cause I love state of grace and also because a 8 track ep is almost like gnr lies 2

If you think of it the four single we got, plus atlas, monsters and state of grace individually might not be the best stuff they’ve done, but as an album I wouldn’t skip any. I m making my own cd 2 compilation with those seven songs and oh my god and it’s a very pleasant listen to me.