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"This new single is gonna take America by storm, one small town bar jukebox app request at a time" - GNR, probably

2 hours ago, Sweersa said:

They spelled it "Monstrocity" which may have been a typo, or them being edgy by misspelling it from the proper spelling of "monstrosity" 

Maybe it was Monstro City, the sequel to Paradise City scheduled for CD5. 

6 hours ago, allwaystired said:

The poor sods probably just have no say whatsoever in what happens. They'd be better off just saying "no comment" when asked anything to do with GNR to preserve their creditably down the road. 

Don't encourage them. Then this board will be reduced to, "was Slash smiling when he said no comment?" "I swear the way Dizzy hesitated before saying no comment means he knows something!!" 

i still think the release of Perhaps is coming "soon" ... the more interesting question is, will there be anything else?

2 minutes ago, Axl S said:

Other bands

i think i've identified the problem right there

2 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

We don't know. 'Me and My Elvis' is a song on the Locker leaks, dating back to 2000 or before. Then in 2008, Axl talked about a song called 'Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul' aka 'The Soul Monster' which would "undoubtedly" end up being called "Soul Monster". He would also mention that this song had had the working title 'Leave Me Alone'. Beltrami in 2003 mentioned that he had worked on 'Leave Me Alone'. So the song that ended up being called Soul Monster existed back in 2003 (as Leave Me Alone) and might have started off as 'Me and My Elvis' even earlier, but that is just speculation based on both of these songs having the name Elvis in them. It could absolutely be that Me and My Elvis and Leave Me Alone/The Soul Monster are two different songs, although is is reasonable to think they might be the same.

i saw a mysterious post somewhere from someone who seemed to know a lot about this stuff, saying that Me and My Elvis was later called "In This Grave", and that the vocals were recorded December 24 2002. Anyone hear this title before?

3 hours ago, Billy Cundy said:

Regardless of how I feel about not being able to play I song I love, in any context, it is superseded by my belief that music shouldn’t be public property, because artists and the labels who made the initial investment deserve to be paid fairly for their work in all capacities. 

Again, all they need to do is what most other bands are doing. Have the video de-monetized when their song is used, and get the ad revenue from the video. 

The internet has completely changed many things in society, a lot greatly improved, some completely destroyed. But no matter how angry it makes Don Henley, it ain't never going back. The music industry and newspapers took huge blows, no doubt.

Most of the things you're complaining about have nothing to do with YouTube anyway. I'd love to see bands work in a proper studio with producers again too, but on the flip side it's way easier and cheaper to record now than it ever was back then. 

You standing outside a newspaper office holding up a ghetto blaster isn't going to bring newspapers back into your arms either. 

And the whole "gatekeeper" thing was total bullshit, anyway.

36 minutes ago, Billy Cundy said:

In defence of Don Henley (i imagine I’ve already lost a few people saying that)…but…. it’s his song. I believe that he, Felder and Glenn Frey, no matter how you feel about them, should have complete control over how their music is used. I’d agree that the battle is already lost - music is so devalued that Rick Beato doing his little vid isn’t going to result in any great loss of income.. Pandora’s box is already open. In fact, you’re right, might do them some good: the odd Gen Z bedroom guitarist might watch Rick’s analysis and go on to stream Hotel Cali 1000000000 times …. and make the Eagles 0.04 cents to split between them.
 

unfortunately, browbeating and bullying artists and labels into ‘getting with the times’ has resulted in the slow death of the recording industry. We all hated Lars Ulrich after Napster-gate, but look at the industry now. Gone are the rock stars. Money made from album sales gave the labels the budgets to take a chance on lunatics like GNR and pair them with professionals like Clink… and create incredible art. but the moneys dried up. Now, academics like Rick Beato, who deliver post-mortems on the once profitable art of album-making, are our new heroes. Hooray. 
 

Im not a fan, but I know Beato’s intentions are mostly good. Im sure there’s some (a lot) of ego and careerism in there too. Who can blame him? But frankly, I don’t blame Henley and the labels clinging onto their rights. I was called a sycophant earlier in the thread, but my allegiance is forever with the artist, the art, and the business model that sustains MUSIC, rather than talking about music. You can’t have your first dance at a wedding to Rick Beato prattling on about sus chords and compression.
 

I have to say though; I agree - Tim Pierce fucking rocks. Such a dude. 

Ah yes, the poor recording industry. All those wonderful people at record labels giving artists fair contracts and proper compensation for all those years...

The music industry is certainly fucked, some of it their own doing ... and there are many, many reasons for this, but absolutely none of them are Rick Beato videos. 

No one is saying that Don Henley or whoever should not have control over their music. We both strongly support artists and their art, just happen to disagree on this one point i guess. i am arguing they would get more money AND more recognition for their art and hopefully a new generation of fans by removing these outdated and dimwitted blocking policies. Nobody buys albums anymore, so this is how it works now. People learn about your band online and eventually listen to your songs, and hopefully become a fan and buy a ticket to a show.

i mean if you were having the first dance at your wedding to an Eagles song and Don Henley walked by, he would probably run in, unplug the speakers and scream at you for playing his song without compensating him!

7 hours ago, Billy Cundy said:

wrong. I’ve watched a lot of Beato’s videos. From his early WMTSG content to his interviews with Sting and Lukather. I’ve also endured the moments he’s subjected us to his fellow guitar-bros like Rhett Shull, and their opinions on drum sounds (gosh what a boring guy Rhett is).
I just don’t love him or fawn over him like everyone else seems to. There’s a YouTuber called Pat Finnerty who does brilliant videos, and he teases Rick Beato and his format.. he even says in one of his vids ‘I’m not sure about that guy’. It was such a relief to know I’m not alone.
Not everyone has to love this bloke just because he talks about the music we like.
I dislike his guitar playing, it’s this reverb soaked modal fusion but with none of the bite of a Larry Carlton.

I don’t even agree with all his theory. He did a video on Rocketman by Elton and I feel his interpretation of the key centre is a bit… weird.

he also did a Alex Van Halen snare sound video, and didn’t get anywhere near haha, but that’s beside the point.

im aware of his producer credentials, he produced a pop country hit in the 2000s. Ok..? And? I’ve heard his original stuff, and let’s just say there’s probably a reason he’s a YouTuber and not a rockstar.

I do like hearing multitracks of songs I like, but frankly there are more and more ‘deconstructed’ vids coming to YouTube. I get real Cult of Personality vibes from Beato. All the cork-sniffing nerds in the comments calling him the ‘saviour of music’.. what is that about? 
 

to me, it’s the equivalent of a football commentator being afforded the same praise as Messi. Makes no sense. 

Some fair points. Certainly not everyone is going to like every video, or even a particular YouTube channel. I have found that Beato's info meshes well with what I know about music, and I think the channel's great and entertaining. Love the interviews, too. Not familiar with Rhett, but Beato did introduce me to Tim Pierce who is awesome in his own right. What a career he's had as a session musician! Brilliant player too.

Anyway, the point here isn't about Rick Beato himself, per se. The point is that no one, including Pat Finnerty, or anyone else, can use a small clip of a GNR song without the video immediately being blocked and taken down, with a potential strike on the channel. Even if it's an educational video, if it's brilliant, says nothing but great things about the song, or introduces thousands of kids to the song or band. 

I posted because I think some people commenting in this thread (not you) think this is about making money off the artist. Now of course anyone trying to make a living on YouTube wants to make money, just like any other job. It takes a shitload of work to make these videos. But if someone makes one about a GNR song and it gets de-monetized, GNR and/or the label would receive the associated ad revenue instead. And Beato doesn't have any issues with that at all. 

Some people joke they're afraid to even say the words "Hotel California" on YouTube for fear of having the video blocked. Don Henley is an incredible songwriter, but also a well-known douchebag and negative asshole. Probably walking around his mansion right now muttering about people trying to rip him off. It's fucking stupid. And costing himself money in the end. 

It's mostly older bands that have this attitude. Sometimes it's the label (especially a small label working with older bands), and the artist may not even be aware. This has happened a couple of times with Beato, where an artist heard a video got blocked, and had the policy changed.

It just seems hard to believe that Guns n' Roses doesn't believe in this idiotic policy, and would like to make more money on YouTube, and wants more young people learn about their music. Yet continue to allow many videos to be blocked on YouTube based on the actions of one deranged lunatic. 

come on axl, release something already...

14 minutes ago, mystery said:

This begs the question of who would be the best person to interview Axl?

Howard Stern

6 hours ago, janrichmond said:

Dust in the Wind, Axl should have done that more and also record it.

same goes for 'Sailing' - awesome cover.

I was actually asking ChatGPT about unreleased GNR music myself a couple of days ago, haha.

I asked why Axl Rose refuses to release new music, but the robot had no idea either. 

2023 Intentions

1 hour ago, janrichmond said:

ONE album of original music has been released since 1991. That’s ONE fucking album in over 3 decades ☑️

This one's by far the best. Should be the first thing anybody sees when they visit the Discussion and "News" section for this nostalgia act. 

GNFNR 2016-2023 = Commerce >>> Art